Busk - a district in Ossy

[MargaretR]

A couple of months ago, I 'dipped my toe' into geneology briefly.
I have no intention of taking it up as a hobby - it was just a brief diversion.
I 'piggybacked' on the family trees of others at Genes reunited.

I did come accross an interesting fact, that my great great grandmother

Anne Grimshaw
born 1825 Busk Osw, married David Shorrocks

and was a daughter of -

Ellen Waddington (great great great grandmother)
born 1803 Blackburn, married James Grimshaw(butcher) 25/1/1825 Church Kirk, died 1870

It seems that this 'begatting' was taking place at a butchers shop in Ossy in an area named Busk.

As an Ossy lass born and bred I am aware that there was a street named Busk Meadow St, which was demolished in my lifetime and has been replaced with the 'council flats' between St Pauls school and Howarth St.

I also found an old Ossy map showing the area between St Pauls school and Howarth St, described as 'Busk'.
This is a section of Union Rd - It must have been a smallish group of buildings not to need any door numbers.
Am I right to assume that?

This was in the days before photography, but if anyone has seen old etchings/drawings of 'Busk' on the web, I would appreciate being told where.

[MargaretR]

I have found a link with some info here -
http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloads/STRAITS__v12.pdf
Throughout the 19th century, there
was an increase in the amount of purpose-built workers’ housing and,
by the mid-1820s, the urban area was based along Union Road. The
first school in Oswaldtwistle was opened in 1831. It was a Sunday
and day school, situated on New Lane on land donated by Robert
Peel. There was also a school located in some residential cottages
at Busk from 1837 until 1872, when a purpose built school was
erected on Union Road.
Although new housing was added to the area, it was not sufficient to
meet the demand. Crowded, unsanitary conditions lead to public
health issues with outbreaks of small pox, scarlet fever and typhoid
throughout the 1880s-90s. In 1892, the conditions were so poor that
600 houses stood vacant and Oswaldtwistle became known as the
“Deserted Village.

[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

A couple of months ago, I 'dipped my toe' into geneology briefly.
I have no intention of taking it up as a hobby - it was just a brief diversion.
I 'piggybacked' on the family trees of others at Genes reunited.

I did come accross an interesting fact, that my great great grandmother

Anne Grimshaw
born 1825 Busk Osw, married David Shorrocks

and was a daughter of -

Ellen Waddington (great great great grandmother)
born 1803 Blackburn, married James Grimshaw(butcher) 25/1/1825 Church Kirk, died 1870

It seems that this 'begatting' was taking place at a butchers shop in Ossy in an area named Busk.

As an Ossy lass born and bred I am aware that there was a street named Busk Meadow St, which was demolished in my lifetime and has been replaced with the 'council flats' between St Pauls school and Howarth St.

I also found an old Ossy map showing the area between St Pauls school and Howarth St, described as 'Busk'.
This is a section of Union Rd - It must have been a smallish group of buildings not to need any door numbers.
Am I right to assume that?

This was in the days before photography, but if anyone has seen old etchings/drawings of 'Busk' on the web, I would appreciate being told where.

Hi Margaret.
I have the parish registers for Church Kirk in this box of tricks dating back to 1600 up to 1800. There is a mention of a place called Busk Barn. You might find some thing on the maps on display at Ossy Mills, the same room as the Accrington Pals display.
Which line are you following Sinister or Distaff.
Retlaw.

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by Retlaw

Hi Margaret.
I have the parish registers for Church Kirk in this box of tricks dating back to 1600 up to 1800. There is a mention of a place called Busk Barn. You might find some thing on the maps on display at Ossy Mills, the same room as the Accrington Pals display.
Which line are you following Sinister or Distaff.
Retlaw.

Sinister or Distaff
I think that means male (distaff) or female(sinister) - men do think of women as sinister don't they
I started to try to find out more about my maternal grandmother, and it just sort of went further back, looking at the females only.

I was quite pleased to find the connections with old Ossy, after finding out that my grandmother was born in Burnley

I have a problem with visiting Ossy Mills, because of the air being saturated with the scent of Yankee Candles.
I had an adverse health effect a few months ago when I went there to buy sausages. Sad really, because they were the best sausages I have ever tasted and they are far better than Prince Charlie's junk food sausages from Sainsburys.

So a visit to Ossy Mills just isn't on my itinerary.
I am hoping that someone else has found Busk in their geneology and has found out more.
I confess that I lack the incentive to do my own research.

Your reference to 'Busk Barn' stirs images of a rural setting - nice.
Maybe the butchers then did their own slaughtering on the premises.
Thank you for responding.

[West Ender]

What does sinister mean in a genealogical context? I am assuming this must be the opposite of the distaff (female) line but I have only heard of sinister in heraldry where it also means female.

[West Ender]

Oops overlapped posts there, Margaret, but Distaff means female, not male.

[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by West Ender

What does sinister mean in a genealogical context? I am assuming this must be the opposite of the distaff (female) line but I have only heard of sinister in heraldry where it also means female.

That is where it come from heraldry, when a coat of arms is halved or quartered, the Sinister is on the top left, and the distaff (female line) is on the right. The same terms are used in genealogy.

Retlaw.

[katex]

Originally Posted by Retlaw

That is where it come from heraldry, when a coat of arms is halved or quartered, the Sinister is on the top left, and the distaff (female line) is on the right. The same terms are used in genealogy.

Retlaw.

How interesting ... so what is bottom left and bottom right then when quartered ?

Sorry can't help with Busk Margaret, but if you want some of those sausages from Ossie Mills, will get you some ... only have to ask ... I do suffer, like you, from perfumes and hate the Yankee Candle smell, but doesn't affect me quite as badly.

[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by katex

How interesting ... so what is bottom left and bottom right then when quartered ?

Sorry can't help with Busk Margaret, but if you want some of those sausages from Ossie Mills, will get you some ... only have to ask ... I do suffer, like you, from perfumes and hate the Yankee Candle smell, but doesn't affect me quite as badly.

Distaff and Sinister.

Retlaw.

[katex]

Originally Posted by Retlaw

Distaff and Sinister.

Retlaw.

So they sort of work diagonally then ?

[cashman]

Originally Posted by katex

So they sort of work diagonally then ?

Horizontals the easiest way.

[jaysay]

That's very interesting Margaret, will go back to your link when I have a spare afternoon and have a good read. Like you I can remember Busk Meadow Street, but that's all, but its very interesting indeed

[Retlaw]

Margaret.
Found this map in my files. Its dated 1844, cant find Busk on it, but thought you'd be interested anyway.

Retlaw.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Retlaw

Margaret.
Found this map in my files. Its dated 1844, cant find Busk on it, but thought you'd be interested anyway.

Retlaw.

Thanks for that Retlaw, I've printed it off and am going to try and blow it up

[katex]

There's a map on Ossygobbin's site Jaysay ... showing the area of Busk quite clearly ... not dated though. Go into the entry for 'Old Oswaltwitle Map' on the home page ... easy to find. Life and times of Oswaldtwistle :: Fotopic.Net

Would put it up for you, but not sure of copyright, etc.