how much ethnic blood do you need to be a minority - Page 2

flashy · 11-04-2007, 22:00

i bet there isnt pure blood in any of us on here

WillowTheWhisp · 11-04-2007, 22:02

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Lets test it shall we- walk down any main street with 'golden, really quite pale' skin and lets see how many racist ass wipes hurl abuse at you- then try telling me you are not a minority.

Well personally I am a pale pasty skinned person so I can't test it out myself but is it really like that where you live? I have friends whose skin colour ranges from deep dark mahogany brown to an amber golden glow and I'm not aware of any of them having racial abuse hurled at them as they walk down the street. I'm not denying that there are racists about but there are also racists who call out names like 'honky trash'.

flashy · 11-04-2007, 22:05

prime example....

i aint racist at all but last year me n my mate took the kids upto Queens park park and there where a lot of asian children playing there, a young asian lad aged about 9 came upto me and my friend and said 'get out of our park you white biatches' i walked away gobsmacked

Flash · 11-04-2007, 22:10

[quote=steeljack;409980]Sorry Flash , but disagree with you on this , the only person discrediting Obama , by playing the race card is Obama , by describing himself as Black and pandering for the Black vote by saying 'look at me, I'm the same as you'. he turns others off because then he becomes just another Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton
If the guy wants to win the election he has got to start saying to America 'look at me, I'm an American same as you '

I appreciate what you are saying but is it reasonable to expect him to do this? Should he takle the moral high ground or try and concentrate on winning the race first- if that means playing the system is that morally questionable- Do the ends justify the means?- More questioons than answers in this I realise.

Flash · 11-04-2007, 22:15

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Originally Posted by Flash

Well personally I am a pale pasty skinned person so I can't test it out myself but is it really like that where you live? I have friends whose skin colour ranges from deep dark mahogany brown to an amber golden glow and I'm not aware of any of them having racial abuse hurled at them as they walk down the street. I'm not denying that there are racists about but there are also racists who call out names like 'honky trash'.

The fact that you cant test it out yourself is sort of the whole point.

Why is it that whenever issues relating to race are discussed someone (always white) sites an example of 'black people can be racist too'- yes, some black people can be racist, of course they can- I wonder why that might be?

WillowTheWhisp · 11-04-2007, 22:26

So the fact that some white people are racist makes it OK for some black people to be racist? That's a barmy sort of logic.

shillelagh · 11-04-2007, 22:31

Ok here goes. I'm 1st generation English. My parents both came from Northern Ireland so they are Irish but British. So thats why i always say im English with irish blood in my veins.

Anyway to me wherever you are born is your nationality. Where your parents are born is nowt to do with you thats them not you. Colour of your skin, religon, gender has nowt to do with anything.

WillowTheWhisp · 11-04-2007, 22:35

Hopefully one day all people will see it that way. Nothing wrong with celebrating your heritage but be who you are and fit in with where you are too.

On the subject of skin colour I remember Eartha Kitt saying she was looked down on by some of her extended family because she was a pale child.

garinda · 11-04-2007, 22:51

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I'm one of a minority. I'm English as far back as the 16th century on both sides of my family, not a drop of Irish, Welsh, Scottish or anything else, and Lancashire English to boot.

In a thread I did, based on my night time musings I worked out that if you go back to 1000 AD, we must all be 'nearly' related through blood ties.

I'm not doubting your claim, but if you average four generations per century, if we only take it back to 1600, that means you have 65,536 direct descendants. As far as I can gather the population of the county, pre-industrial revolution, was under 60,000. Therefore your ancestors may have had to interbreed, to ensure pure Lancastrian stock.

It's a wonder you haven't got one big eye, and eleven fingers and toes...or have you?

Flash · 11-04-2007, 23:18

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

So the fact that some white people are racist makes it OK for some black people to be racist? That's a barmy sort of logic.

At what point did I say that- racism in any form is abhorrant.

WillowTheWhisp · 11-04-2007, 23:37

No, what you said was:

Why is it that whenever issues relating to race are discussed someone (always white) sites an example of 'black people can be racist too'- yes, some black people can be racist, of course they can- I wonder why that might be?

and my response to that is that black people being racist against whites is as bad as whites against black, or brown or green or polka dot. Just because some 'black' people have been on the receiving end doesn't make it right that they or others should behave in like manner.

Anyway, my point was that my brown and golden shaded friends do not have racial abuse hurled at them when they walk down the street. I have only known one of them have a possibly racist experience when she was ignored in a shop and a white person served before her, but it could equally well have been a genuine mistake and the assistant could have thought she was already being served That sort of thing has happened to me.

There may be some racist idiots who shout things at people of a different colour when they are out shopping but it isn't normal experience every time every brown skinned person sets foot outside the door. It's the exception rather than the rule. Where I live I am a white person and an ethnic minority but I have never suffered any racial abuse from my neighbours.

garinda · 11-04-2007, 23:40

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Why is it that whenever issues relating to race are discussed someone (always white) sites an example of 'black people can be racist too'

Are you clairvoyant?

How do you know the colour of anyone on here?

Eric · 12-04-2007, 02:20

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

So the fact that some white people are racist makes it OK for some black people to be racist? That's a barmy sort of logic.

Not really. One has to accept that racism is logical. This is patently false. Racism is emotional and irrational.

Terry · 12-04-2007, 06:08

I don't know what your'e all worried about. If you go back enough you will find that all britons are all mongrels anyway. Including yanks, kiwis, canadians, aussies, europeans etc. If you go back a lot further we are all descended from black people. So what's the beef? I get a bit annoyed with the dark Americans calling themselves African American. I suppose the white people are European American. Or some will be Spanish American and even more Asian American. The bottom line is that they are all supposed to be Americans. Regardless.

WillowTheWhisp · 12-04-2007, 09:09

I'm not American

- at least I don't think I am, and I'd never get away with claiming black ancestry with a complexion like mine. I did so envy my Mum and the way her skin bronzed so easily in the summer. I take after my Dad, a cross between a tomato and a lobster! You're right Eric racism is totally illogical and so are those (usually white) people who think that only white people can be racist. Have you seen the amount of racism between black and Asian? So sad when we are all human beings.