How'd you vote in an E.U. referendum?

[garinda]

Since it's being discussed in various threads at the minute, if there was a referendum on Europe tomorrow, how would you vote?

To be as fair as possible, it's a Yes, to vote for continuing membership, and a No, to withdraw from the European Union.

The ballot will be a secret one.

[ossylass]

I voted NO last time, and I'd do the same again - given the chance!

[Margaret Pilkington]

Me too!
I think I am allergic to the phrase 'European Union'....it makes me come out in hives and causes me to shudder.

[garinda]

'Both Norway and Switzerland are strong economic and rich countries, which is believed to be the reason for their non-participation in the European Union.'

http://www.euimmigration.org/noneu.html

Which won't be said of Britain in the future, if we're to be fined if we don't provide immediate social benefits, to every eager beaver that hops of the European ferry.

[garinda]

I would like to stress, it is a secret poll.

Although if you look at 'Who is currently on-line', and only one person's reading the thread, and seconds later the poll changes...well it doesn't take a rocket scientist.

Odd.

What some people say.

As opposed to do.

Quite telling.

[Tex]

A definite NO. We seemed to manage better than we do today without all the baggage that seems to come with membership. Alas i can't see a referendum ever occurring as the numpties in power never want to hear how those that voted them in feel about such things.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Tex

A definite NO. We seemed to manage better than we do today without all the baggage that seems to come with membership. Alas i can't see a referendum ever occurring as the numpties in power never want to hear how those that voted them in feel about such things.

They might be forced to start listening to what people actually want, come the next election.

There isn't a mood for passivity, there was before the outrageous way politicans acted in wanting to keep their expenses secret...for 'security issues'.

There's definitely a mood for more transparency, and greater democracy.

[garinda]

This was in the 'boom' years, 2005.

Britain 'gets less out of EU than anyone' - Telegraph

Well before the bust, and the chaotic meltdown of the Euro, and threats the U.K. will face multi-milliom pound fines if it doesn't provide social benefits for European migrants, who've never paid a penny into the national pot.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by garinda

I would like to stress, it is a secret poll.

Although if you look at 'Who is currently on-line', and only one person's reading the thread, and seconds later the poll changes...well it doesn't take a rocket scientist.

Odd.

What some people say.

As opposed to do.

Quite telling.

I'm a definite No, and have no fear of saying so, and it seems I'm not alone, from reading subsequent posts.

Anyone equally proud to say they're a Yes voter?

[g jones]

Bit sneaky Garinda to advertise a secret poll and the discuss individual votes. You have to be accountable. I have mixed feelings coming from a traditional socialist standpoint which has always had a general anti Eu view.

I did however come down not the side of yes on the basis it will come down to an issue of employment and taking on multi nationals.

Its also the best chance of sorting other issues such as fishing. There is a real issue waste and bureaucracy and Britains bloated confribution. Issue of EU laws is swings and roundabouts.

I have always previously been anti-European but the world is getting bigger than the UK.

[garinda]

'In 2009 the taxpayers of United Kingdom contributed to the European Union 72 euros per head over what they received. Since its accession to the EU the country has paid to the European Union EUR 86524 million over what it has received.'
MONEY-GO-ROUND.EU -

Still at least the Brits who work there will be laughing...all the way to the bank.

Especially the Kinnocks.

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Lord & Lady Kinnock's £10m Euro gravy train

[garinda]

Originally Posted by g jones

Bit sneaky Garinda to advertise a secret poll and the discuss individual votes. You have to be accountable. I have mixed feelings coming from a traditional socialist standpoint which has always had a general anti Eu view.

I did however come down not the side of yes on the basis it will come down to an issue of employment and taking on multi nationals.

Its also the best chance of sorting other issues such as fishing. There is a real issue waste and bureaucracy and Britains bloated confribution. Issue of EU laws is swings and roundabouts.

I have always previously been anti-European but the world is getting bigger than the UK.

Not sneaky.

Just per chance, that I saw it happen.

I'm going to bed soon, so won't see it happen again.

Besides, it's much more useful providing facts. To illustrate how as a nation we are being shafted by our new European masters.

Plus, we already know how non-insular Internationlist Bernard will vote. As he's already nailed his colours to the mast.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by g jones

I did however come down not the side of yes on the basis it will come down to an issue of employment and taking on multi nationals.

So, in twenty four hours you've gone from being 'split' if there was a referendum, to supporting continued membership of the E.U.?

That must be down to your love of change and evoloution, you posted you were so keen on earlier in the week.



Certainly not a threat to anyone.

I have no idea who I'll vote for in the next General Election, but I can state as a fact it won't be for any candidate who supports continued membership of the E.U..

This issue is even bigger than the economic injustice.

Continuing E.U. membership will have catastrophic consesquences for the social and democratic rights the people of this country have fought long and hard to attain.

Only the woefully naive will see the United States of Europe as bringing peace and prosperity.

It will bring untold misery, and bloodshed.

Anyone who knows me, knows I say this as someone who certainly isn't a Little Englander, and as someone who is a strong opponent of extremist politics.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by g jones

I have always previously been anti-European but the world is getting bigger than the UK.

Couldn't agree more.

Which seems odd that we should be so closely tied economically, with just our European neighbours.

Not the emerging power house economies.

One of which we already have close associations with, through the Commonwealth.

[gynn]

My heart says NO but my head keeps asking about the implications of breaking agreements that have been signed over the past 40 years while we've been members.

If we go for a divorce, how much alimony will we be saddled with?