Last Nights Council Meeting - Page 11

g jones · 03-03-2009, 18:08

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Originally Posted by andrewb

Yes we get it, government put money in. They haven't increased it in line with the national average though. Hyndburn just got forgotten about when they were dishing out increases it seems, so Hyndburn council itself has to make up the shortfall.

Government Grants have gone up every year dramatically. The main current (revenue) account has gone up dramatically too. This year however it WAS below inflation increase BUT that is changing with the economy and it will be be either in line with costs OR we will receive below costs. The first year we have been funded less than inflation ON OUR CURRENT ACCOUNT.

BETWEEN.... 0.5% underfunding = £50,000, 1% = £100,000 The Tories lost £200,000+ plus on mismanaging Concessionary Fares.

ON OUR CAPITAL ACCOUNT we have gone from 30 years of nothing to £2.5m average for 4 years. AN INCREASE OF £2.5 MILLION PER YEAR

ALSO BOOSTING OUR CAPITAL & REVENUE ACCOUNTS

We have received over 3 years (YEAR 2) £4 Million worklessness fund WHICH THE COUNCIL (Shamelessly) IS BRAGGING ABOUT.

WE RECEIVED £8.5 MILLION ELEVATE FUNDING THIS YEAR. Under Cameron we received NOTHING and he said he does not like Northern Housing Schemes.

Is that clear?

Wynonie Harris · 03-03-2009, 19:47

Graham, should you be getting all worked up about this on your birthday?? Shouldn't you be in the pub or getting ready to go out for a nice, relaxed meal with your missus?

I sometimes think that maybe you (and AndrewB) are just letting politics take over your lives to the exclusion of all else. I remember once upon a time when you used to post in the music and football forums. But no more...now it's politics all the way.

I know you'll always be a political animal, but there are other things in life too, you know!

jaysay · 04-03-2009, 10:06

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Graham, should you be getting all worked up about this on your birthday?? Shouldn't you be in the pub or getting ready to go out for a nice, relaxed meal with your missus?

I sometimes think that maybe you (and AndrewB) are just letting politics take over your lives to the exclusion of all else. I remember once upon a time when you used to post in the music and football forums. But no more...now it's politics all the way.

I know you'll always be a political animal, but there are other things in life too, you know!

Another good post Wynonie, I woke up and smelt the coffee a long time ago

TheLeadersOffice HBC · 12-03-2009, 14:03

In 2008/09, the Council's budget was £15,097. This year it will be £15,427. This is an increase in our spend of only 2.2%. The reason why our precept is to increase by 4.95% is because Government funding to the Council has only been increased by 1.5% and the rest of the money has to be found from the local taxpayer. If the Government had given us the amount it has claimed in the national press, it would have been possible to set a zero percent increase this year in Hyndburn.

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These are the facts, you can now argue over them as much as you wish but it won't alter the figures.

Margaret Pilkington · 12-03-2009, 14:46

It's a politicians game....always find someone else to take the blame.
Must take my anti-cynical pills soon.

pipinfort · 12-03-2009, 14:57

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Originally Posted by TheLeadersOffice HBC

In 2008/09, the Council's budget was £15,097. This year it will be £15,427. This is an increase in our spend of only 2.2%. The reason why our precept is to increase by 4.95% is because Government funding to the Council has only been increased by 1.5% and the rest of the money has to be found from the local taxpayer. If the Government had given us the amount it has claimed in the national press, it would have been possible to set a zero percent increase this year in Hyndburn.

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These are the facts, you can now argue over them as much as you wish but it won't alter the figures.

We have an `Introduce Yourself ` section you know......?

garinda · 12-03-2009, 15:42

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Originally Posted by TheLeadersOffice HBC

In 2008/09, the Council's budget was £15,097. This year it will be £15,427.

Budget for what though?

Running costs and expenses?

Surely the money spent on policies will be many times that figure.

Welcome, by the way.

It'll be nice to have some balance on here...whoever you are.

lancsdave · 12-03-2009, 17:31

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Originally Posted by TheLeadersOffice HBC

In 2008/09, the Council's budget was £15,097. This year it will be £15,427.

Thats not even going to cover expenses

garinda · 12-03-2009, 18:22

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Well he's no opposition has he, by the way where is it, things have gone quiet from the left, even his sycophants are quiet

Well there are at least three Labour councillors on here, and since you've confirmed it is Cllr. Britcliffe, that does add a little balance to the proceedings here on Accy Web. Him being the only known Conservative councillor to grace us with his presence.

Perhaps it was you labelling this forum as a place of 'vile and vicious insults' in the local press, that eventually attracted him.

Though of course there are penalties on here for calling someone a 'silly cow' on here, unlike council chambers, in the form of the karma system.

garinda · 12-03-2009, 18:24

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Originally Posted by garinda

Well there are at least three Labour councillors on here, and since you've confirmed it is Cllr. Britcliffe, that does add a little balance to the proceedings here on Accy Web. Him being the only known Conservative councillor to grace us with his presence.

Perhaps it was you labelling this forum as a place of 'vile and vicious insults' in the local press, that eventually attracted him.

Though of course there are penalties on here for calling someone a 'silly cow' on here, unlike council chambers, in the form of the karma system.

Actually there are four other councillors on here, from Labour.

g jones · 12-03-2009, 18:25

No one ever denied we only got 1.5 but we have averaged over 5% for 7 or 8 years. So the money is in the bank and no matter how low this year there are simply no excuses. Other government grants have rocketed. To say we are shortchanged is just telling the public pork pies in the face of facts, not opinion.

One fraction of one budget in one year is a pathetic excuse. See figures posted on of 11. Its 50k at most AND that included wage inflation which islikeky to be much smaller. Its ridiculous Especially when those are comllaining about government cuts are spending government money in the £millions in other budhgets and telling the public its "the biggest spending programme ever". You have to look at the overall pitcture to give an honest opinion.

Glad we have managed to get the Leaders Office into an open public debate.

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g jones · 12-03-2009, 18:27

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Why's that cashy, are they all going to have heart attacks

I am down at the Cheltenham Festival with my life long friends. Politics is on the back burner. Having a lovely time. Got a 6 berth luxury motorhome we are sharing as we' re on a budget.

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garinda · 12-03-2009, 18:29

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Originally Posted by g jones

I am down at the Cheltenham Festival with my life long friends. Politics is on the back burner. Having a lovely time. Got a 6 berth luxury motorhome we are sharing as we' re on a budget.

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Make sure you keep any receipts for hot dogs or cans of coke.

g jones · 12-03-2009, 18:36

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Originally Posted by garinda

Make sure you keep any receipts for hot dogs or cans of coke.

The Cheltenham Festival is clearly of huge signifance to the Borough and I think Bollinger is what is accepted as the usual drink here! Where's my ex's form???? LOL

If its good enough for Alan Brazil its good enough for me.
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g jones · 12-03-2009, 18:42

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Originally Posted by TheLeadersOffice HBC

In 2008/09, the Council's budget was £15,097. This year it will be £15,427. This is an increase in our spend of only 2.2%. The reason why our precept is to increase by 4.95% is because Government funding to the Council has only been increased by 1.5% and the rest of the money has to be found from the local taxpayer. If the Government had given us the amount it has claimed in the national press, it would have been possible to set a zero percent increase this year in Hyndburn.

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These are the facts, you can now argue over them as much as you wish but it won't alter the figures.

They are not facts, they are as usual twisted facts or rubbish in normal parlence. See previous post about income and expenditure. AND b) stop wasting money. That will keep Council Tax Down.

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