What do you think about the cuts in arts funding?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by SamF

I did not say a single thing about Artistic appreciation.

No, you implied that as residents of an impoverished northern mill town they therefore would have no opinion on the cuts in the arts.

Wrongly implied, I add again.

[walkinman221]

It seems samf has angered garinda somewhat, as many people have said the arts are very low on the list of the priorities of most folk at the moment.Funding for the arts is a very contentious subject,as garinda said good art will always find funding. If the public purse withdraws funding the wheat could be sorted from the chaff after all they say talent always shines through in the end.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by garinda

No, you implied that as residents of an impoverished northern mill town they therefore would have no opinion on the cuts in the arts.

Wrongly implied, I add again.

By the way SamF, you haven't given us your opinion, when it comes to the cuts.

Or, instead of presuming what the residents of an impoverished northern mill town would think, when it comes to what their taxes are spent on, was it in fact your own opinion, that you couldn't care less?

That might change, once you're working full-time, and a great percentage of what you earn is taken away, and spent on such fripperies as 'community art'.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by walkinman221

It seems samf has angered garinda somewhat, as many people have said the arts are very low on the list of the priorities of most folk at the moment.Funding for the arts is a very contentious subject,as garinda said good art will always find funding. If the public purse withdraws funding the wheat could be sorted from the chaff after all they say talent always shines through in the end.

Oh you obviously don't know me very well.

I'm much to lazy ever to waste energy on being angry.

I'll suffer any fool gladly.

At very little effort, on my part.

[walkinman221]

I was using angered in a loose sense, i have gleaned from watching your posts on here you seem to relish a good joust with other posters.And i have to say in my opinion you are very good at it. To good for samf and the likes of numpties like me, being from an impoverished northen mill town

[garinda]

Oh dear SamF.

Another wildly wrong presumption, with your karma comment.

I haven't had a few, as you wrongly assumed.

I don't drink.

Cheers.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by walkinman221

I was using angered in a loose sense, i have gleaned from watching your posts on here you seem to relish a good joust with other posters.And i have to say in my opinion you are very good at it.

Tis true.

There's a great shortage in the impoverished industrial north.

Village idiots are hard to come by.

When you find one, you should appreciate their efforts.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by keetah_992000

Just wondering what your opinions are on the cuts and how you think it will affect those around you ?

It's disgraceful.

Disgraceful that we're still spending taxpayers' money on the arts in the first place. I don't listen to classical music, go to art galleries, the theatre or ballet and I wouldn't been seen dead at any of the laughable artistic "happenings" that have been inflicted on Accrington recently. Call me a philistine if you want, but that's my choice, so why should my hard earned taxes be used to finance these activities?

Many of my tastes are minority interests (you won't hear any Wynonie Harris records on Radio One anytime soon ) but I don't expect others to subsidise my interests, so why should I subsidise theirs?

[cashman]

Originally Posted by keetah_992000

Just wondering what your opinions are on the cuts and how you think it will affect those around you ?

Just wondering meself what yours are?

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by keetah_992000

and how you think it will affect those around you ?

Forgot to answer the second part of your question...it won't even register on their radar because no one I know gives a tinker's cuss about the arts.

They do, however, care quite a bit about the taxes they're stumping up.

[Alan Varrechia]

Originally Posted by steeljack

think if it gets rid of street Graffiti "art" projects and money being spent to teach 'urban' youth how to rap (rhyme Motha with Sucka etc.) dont see any problem with withdrawing funds.

I'm with you on that one Steeljack.

[keetah_992000]

Originally Posted by flashy

Theres more important crap going on in this country right now for anyone to be bothered about a cut in piggin arts funding, get a grip, no one gives a toss

Yes there are more important things going on in the country. Who do you think raises awareness of these things?

I would be interested to hear what things you are concerned about rather than just throwing such an ignorant response as that in. There really is no need.

[keetah_992000]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Well, I am the product of a northern Mill town......during my childhood we listened to classical music....including opera. My mother was an accomplished pianist, my father played the violin and both of them worked in the weaving mill......this despite the fact that my mother speaks 13 languages(7 of them fluently).
Art is a very personal thing....some people like Ballet, some opera......some like to view sculptures/visual art....but in the real world, we sometimes have to choose necessities over luxuries.

Let me pose a question to you......If you were the father/mother of a sick or disabled child, where would you like to see the funding go? To a childrens facility/hospice/respite centre or to some Art project??
To me, the answer is a no-brainer.

Don't make assumptions about the good folk of this town......just because we are from an industrial area, which over the years has not had the funding for the luxuries of Art,(and what has been funded has bordered on the ludicrous) does not automatically mean we are all philistines.

many childrens' facilities/hospices/respite centres use creative therapy to help those children, this will be affected as well with funding for arts being cut where do you think they will get their funding for the resources from?

Many are allocated a certain amount of funding for creative resources, this has been cut down to minimal amounts. The funding cuts affect many people including children. I didn't specify this at first because I wanted to see whether people would just assume I meant art- as in painting. I have got a very clear impression that people are ignorant about the impact of these cuts and have a pretty narrowed opinion.

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

It's disgraceful.

Disgraceful that we're still spending taxpayers' money on the arts in the first place. I don't listen to classical music, go to art galleries, the theatre or ballet and I wouldn't been seen dead at any of the laughable artistic "happenings" that have been inflicted on Accrington recently. Call me a philistine if you want, but that's my choice, so why should my hard earned taxes be used to finance these activities?

Many of my tastes are minority interests (you won't hear any Wynonie Harris records on Radio One anytime soon ) but I don't expect others to subsidise my interests, so why should I subsidise theirs?

This is getting to be a habit Wyn - me agreeing with you If you want to support "art" then pay for it out of your pocket, don't expect it to be paid for by others e.g. the taxpayer

[keetah_992000]

Originally Posted by cashman

Just wondering meself what yours are?

Well to be honest I think it is quite sad.
As I have said in previous posts it affects a wider demographic than people are assuming.

I worked in a fabulous nursery - Fairfield in Accrington.
They had a different kind of learning going on there - based around giving the child creative experiences that they could learn from - a lot more in depth than that , but you can see where I am going. The specific type of learning enabled the children to build their logic skills which in turn helped them to create and build other learning skills. The children attending the nursery have done fantastically at schools. I am sure the Mooneys will agree with this.

The thing is a lot of their funding came from "creative' pots which simply won't be there much longer. That makes me sad.

I have also recently worked in a school in Blackburn who have little money for creative activities as it is - the children are missing out, because like it or not learning through the creative process is one of the most beneficial ways to learn. I am not just talking about painting, but building 3D models/dens/tactile experiences.

How many of you have experienced the joy of your child/grandchild bringing home their first painting - would you take that away from someone else?

Designers, architects, textile manufacturers, art therapists, product designers (including wheelchair and special support furniture designers) will all be affected and many more.

So it will affect disability provisions.

Who do you think will construct the advertising for your good causes? In this day and age where we are bombarded with advertisments, we have become ad-blind. To get through all of that you need good designers, educated ones- not the monkeys who sit on their pc and throw a poster out in publisher, then say ooo I am a designer.

I hate the fact the local governments won't help those in need but will regenerate areas that are fine, or put up sculptures that they have paid thousands of pounds for, or even consider spending money on fixing that damned ugly mess they call a clock in the arndale.

And Flashy- did you vote to keep the clock - that's some money that could go to some of your good causes eh?