child benefits for Poles - Page 2

cashman · 08-03-2008, 17:38

i aint slagging polish people i'm slagging the system that allows this,obviously beyond you.

blazey · 08-03-2008, 17:40

Oh and I have paid taxes through working, particularly through emergency tax and being new to work I had no idea how to claim it back, so I care where tax money goes more than anyone if I depend on it! I don't want to see it wasted on Gorddon Browns new motor when it could've been spent on more books for the library and better resources. I just don't mind it going to someone needy I guess.

Would you be bitter if it went to Africa? They don't contribute AT ALL to our system, yet I don't think many people would care about throwing money at them? I think most people would be in uproar if I complained about sending money to charities in third world countries, yet it doesnt benefit our country to do it so why bother if thats the case? Isn't that what the problem is with sending tax payers money to kids in poland? doesn't benefit us so dont do it.

Sending chavs to school wastes money when they come out with no qualifications, should we test everyone before they enter high school and if they fail then not bother wasting money on them because they'll never benefit the country? Why not just shove them into a factory?

That's not democratic is it?

blazey · 08-03-2008, 17:42

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Originally Posted by cashman

i aint slagging polish people i'm slagging the system that allows this,obviously beyond you.

It wasn't aimed directly at you.

I dont think there is anything wrong with the system. I can think of many more things that annoy me regarding tax payers money and this isn't one of them.

cashman · 08-03-2008, 17:43

you do come out with utter crap sometimes, the threads about child benifits for Poles,which are sent to another country cos they dont live here.

never thought it was directly at me.

blazey · 08-03-2008, 17:49

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Originally Posted by cashman

you do come out with utter crap sometimes, the threads about child benifits for Poles,which are sent to another country cos they dont live here.

never thought it was directly at me.

Yes and basically what I was saying is that I will not complain about Poles and the benefits they get because it's none of my business, as although I have paid taxes before, I have depended on them so much more with being a student, and whilst I care about where money goes, because the more that gets pumped into my education the better, I would feel I was being spiteful to try and deny benefits to the children of people who are working hard and paying taxes in this country.

Neil · 08-03-2008, 17:55

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Originally Posted by blazey

I hate to slag off the Polish people when they generally have such a good work ethic, and they work so much harder than me and for so much less. I like that their children can have a better life in their own country for the sacrifice of a parent.

I disagree with you about their work ethic. They come here and work but they don't spend the money here, they send as much back to Poland as they can. I believe they are a drain to the Country not an asset. If they were not working here maybe we could force more people from this Country to work by making it a condition of benefits payments.

As far as being able to claim for people not living here that is crazy.

blazey · 08-03-2008, 18:04

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Originally Posted by Neil

I disagree with you about their work ethic. They come here and work but they don't spend the money here, they send as much back to Poland as they can. I believe they are a drain to the Country not an asset. If they were not working here maybe we could force more people from this Country to work by making it a condition of benefits payments.

As far as being able to claim for people not living here that is crazy.

So you are disagreeing with my comment about their work ethic just because of how they spend their money...

In that case I will put my nazi head on and complain about the jews whilst I get the opportunity, because they're gold hoarders too.

I used to work with a British old man who sent every penny he earnt to Thailand to his thai wife, who he saw about once a year. He had no children with her.

I don't care how people spend their money, because if I tried to make sure everyone spent their money in the countries interests I'd be attempting something very futile and stupid.

I'm not going to reply again because I've said how I feel about this topic and i'm not going to change my mind on it, and I dont care about anyone elses opinion because we are in UK and your opinion doesn't matter to the current government, so its just tough isn't it?

steeljack · 08-03-2008, 18:13

I'd be asking the question "how do we know all these children actually exist ? " its not like you have to take them down to the tax/benefits office and get a number tattooed on them , and I'm sure Polish and other countries birth certificates are unforgable

Yolanda25 · 08-03-2008, 20:16

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Originally Posted by blazey

Yes and basically what I was saying is that I will not complain about Poles and the benefits they get because it's none of my business, as although I have paid taxes before, I have depended on them so much more with being a student, and whilst I care about where money goes, because the more that gets pumped into my education the better, I would feel I was being spiteful to try and deny benefits to the children of people who are working hard and paying taxes in this country.

Trust me blazey you will care when u work and u realise that people that dont leave on uk are getting money, this is nothing about ur fundings for university is about us taxpayers complaining about polish people getting money for people who dont live in uk
Like i said before, if i moved to spain i would not have the cheek to claim benefits from another country

Bagpuss · 08-03-2008, 20:20

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Originally Posted by blazey

I think most people would be in uproar if I complained about sending money to charities in third world countries

I'd have no problem with a thread about that, in fact it's the only sentence that you have written that actually interests me.

Bonnyboy · 08-03-2008, 20:55

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Originally Posted by steeljack

I'd be asking the question "how do we know all these children actually exist ? " its not like you have to take them down to the tax/benefits office and get a number tattooed on them , and I'm sure Polish and other countries birth certificates are unforgable

This is an old BBC report from last Autumn, the system is clearly open to fraudulent claims - Some Poles 'claim benefit twice'

According to this up to date report - Daily Express - the figures released by HM Revenue and Customs do not take into account child tax credit payments that have been made.

cherokee · 08-03-2008, 22:05

[quote=cashman;542683]you do come out with utter crap sometimes,

SOMETIMES

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blazey · 08-03-2008, 22:11

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Originally Posted by Yolanda25

Trust me blazey you will care when u work and u realise that people that dont leave on uk are getting money, this is nothing about ur fundings for university is about us taxpayers complaining about polish people getting money for people who dont live in uk
Like i said before, if i moved to spain i would not have the cheek to claim benefits from another country

If some of the people on the forum had it their way you would never have been allowed into this country. I imagine you would send money to your children if they couldn't live with you in the country?

If it was a case of people working here and sending money to independent people in the country then I may care, but its to children. Why does money have to stay within a country?

We pay tax to help needier people like the ill, the disabled, the homeless, why not to help people in other countries too?

I'm 19 so tax has always been around as far as I can remember, so obviously I'm not going to feel hard done by about where the money goes, it's always been misused. As for people saying 'well wait until you work', well I have worked, and I've paid tax, and I still don't care, because at the end of the day, i'm claiming more than any polish person is for their children back home, so it's being put to good use for me AS WELL.

Blame the government, but don't spite someone just because they're claiming something for their family that they're entitled to.

Lilly · 08-03-2008, 22:17

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Originally Posted by blazey

Blame the government, but don't spite someone just because they're claiming something for their family that they're entitled to.

You're right there. Certain people such as non residents and multi-millionaires should not be given the chance to claim child benefit. If the system allows them to claim then they're going to, aren't they? It's the government's fault.

emamum · 08-03-2008, 22:31

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Originally Posted by blazey

If some of the people on the forum had it their way you would never have been allowed into this country. I imagine you would send money to your children if they couldn't live with you in the country?

If it was a case of people working here and sending money to independent people in the country then I may care, but its to children. Why does money have to stay within a country?

We pay tax to help needier people like the ill, the disabled, the homeless, why not to help people in other countries too?

I'm 19 so tax has always been around as far as I can remember, so obviously I'm not going to feel hard done by about where the money goes, it's always been misused. As for people saying 'well wait until you work', well I have worked, and I've paid tax, and I still don't care, because at the end of the day, i'm claiming more than any polish person is for their children back home, so it's being put to good use for me AS WELL.

Blame the government, but don't spite someone just because they're claiming something for their family that they're entitled to.

omg i agree with something Blazey said.... has hell frozen over??

** Em thinks she can see 4 horsemen over the horizon!