Originally Posted by DAV007
It is no use for us as fans to be falling out amongst ourselves, JB is manager at the minute and we should stick together and give the team our support. We have had a period of 2 years of instability
I don't agree, if anything going from Cook to Leam continued the stability.
And Beattie was at the club as a player/coach last year, so again their was some stability
Each manager has their own ideas and own tactics they want to implement when they are appointed. This usually means an overhaul of the playing squad each time a new manager is appointed, hence the instability it creates on and off the pitch. This also means it takes more time to see results on the pitch, doing this for the past 2 years hasn't helped. Under Paul Cook, we established a big playing squad and a number of these players were deemed not good enough for Leam who sent some of them out on loan, released some of them and then also added some of his own players. When Leam left JB signed a number of his own players and this meant another overhaul of the team. If we sack JB the same cycle will repeat and again will take time to manifest itself on the pitch.
and cannot afford to keep losing managers through them leaving or being sacked.
We haven't sacked a manager?
You have wanted the current and last manager sacked in the past 8 months
Coley and Cook left for better opportunities, Leam left to be a number 2
This just adds to an unstable working environment that doesn't help the players to become used to a manager and their tactics etc.
Good players adapt to whoever the manager is. The problem we have, some of our players are not very good.
We have a mixed bag of some decent players, some not so good and crocked players, Lets not forget the fact that losing all the time can have a massive detrimental effect on their confidence. This is a hard thing to get out of as shown last season.
The basic reality is that we have no money, we are making massive losses and the club can ill afford to pay off Beattie.
This is true (sadly).
We agree on something
So unless anyone wants to stump up the cash to pay him off,
I can add £20 to the fund if it will help
Send a cheque for about 50 grand and you may get your wish
we are stuck with him unless he walks away. We as fans have always given every manager a fair crack of the whip, so why are people calling for his head after 10 league games?
Because there has been little to nothing to suggest results will improve
It is ten games into the season, you were saying the same thing about Leam and he was given time to turn it around and that is what he did. There is nothing to suggest that it cant happen again.
It is far too early in the season to be sacking anybody and the squad is ravaged by injuries at the minute.
This is not true, and other Stanley manager's have had far worse injury list.
This is his team , his players.
He has signed players who have been injury crooks all their careers, so why the sudden surprise when they get injured?
No excuse
The only players who have been crocks are Hunt and Webber, when both fit they are very good players at this level. That is a risk that JB has taken and Webber hasn't worked out but Hunt is a very good player for us. Did Coley or Bell ever have to name themselves on the bench in the football league?
That means that JB has struggled to put a team out that would be his first choice.
Not true.
Every single player (except Murphy I think) where signed/re-signed in the summer.
Its his team, his signings.
It would be his team if he could get all the players he signed on the pitch and not being sat on a treatment table.
As a club we don't have any God given right to be guaranteed to stay in the division so if we do go down it would hardly be a shock.
But we must do everything we can to sustain it, especially when you consider the financial cost for going down
I'm sure everyone at the club is aware of it, especially Peter Marsden who is funding the club at a time when nobody else is willing to. Its not like the players are stood on the pitch every game trying to lose.
We have been punching above our weight in the league for 7 years but maybe our luck has run out.
No such thing as luck - your either good enough or your not good enough
Over a season I would agree but in certain matches you get some luck and in others you don't. Look at the York game away last season, we were played off the park for 90 mins and up pops Pete and we get a point that was the catalyst for staying up.
As supporters we just need to get behind the lads and support them when they are on the pitch.
Please point to one post which has said anything other than support the team?
But does that mean we are not allowed to debate the awful results and performances which have been served up on an independent forum?
I haven't said that the fans aren't backing the lads, just saying we need to do our bit when they are on the pitch.
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