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Originally Posted by RainbowSix
Thing is, how is leaving the Eu going to stop them coming? the migrants from Syria and other war torn countries?
All the politicians are saying we "can" make our own laws, control our borders, give more to the NHS but are any of them actually able to do so? are any of them actually saying that if we exit we "will" do this?
Will these alleged savings actually be spent how the exit campaign are saying they should be? Will they heck!
Its already been shown that immigration cannot be stopped because of it, we just get to add more bureaucracy into it. There will still be a massive influx from Syria etc. and we cannot and should not be preventing these people from leaving the place where they are likely to get killed. I know I wouldn't like to be in their shoes.
All the raping, theft etc. that attributed to EU and outside EU immigrants isn't going to suddenly stop just because we leave the EU.
Immigration is not the be all that matters for this vote, our ability to trade with Europe is IMO more important as that affects my finances.
AIUI Margaret, you wouldn't like Australia - its full of convicts, murderers and rapists - we sent them there a few years back 
Colleagues have emigrated over there and soon come back.
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I wouldn't like Australia - that's what you say. Well, you would be so wrong there.
Those people who were transported are long dead.
Australia is a country which values democracy. If you vote to remain then what you are saying is that you really don't mind unelected, unaccountable faceless bureaucrats making the laws by which you will be obliged to abide.
These bureaucrats do everything in secret committees. No minutes of any meetings are ever recorded....the bureaucrats can be bought by the likes of the Goldman Sachs banker(you know those people who were instrumental in the 2008 financial crisis.....that many of us are still paying for today).
If you vote remain you are saying that you don't really mind if your children cannot get into the school of their choice, that there are long waiting times for medical care......you are saying that you really don't mind if your children cannot get on the housing ladder because these incomers bring the wages down.......and that the money they earn does not go into the tax pot because frequently they do not earn enough....but they take out of the tax pot in the credits that are paid to them.....and then they send this money back to their home country to benefit
that economy, rather than our economy.
Clearly you do not mind any of these things
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And while the politicians are not saying what would happen to the money which would be freed up by not contributing to the EU. The Fact is that it would be there to do something which could benefit the people of this island. Rather than than paying these bureaucrats £240 per DAY food and drink allowance(that is more than some people have to live on for a week) but that sits well with you.
My father and my grandfather are probably spinning in their graves that they spilt blood for you to even think of handing over our democratic rights to the Germans...because it IS the Germans who run this show.
You don't mind being a satellite state of the EU(Germany)......A county council of the EU.
Those people who are asking you to vote remain are the people who will not be affected by any changes to the fabric of this country...they are the people who pay for their childrens education, they pay for their medical care, they have homes in gated communities or in Necker(Richard Branson), they are the 1% elite that the Eu serves.
The Uk is the third largest contributor to the EU budget,yet our influence on policy, laws etcetera is just under 9%.
Think about these things while you have someone pick the splinters out of your back side won't you!