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Old 07-03-2008, 12:06   #54
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Re: Referedum on EU Treaty

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris View Post
is that "point scoring by the idiotic opposition parties"?
No that's representing their respective constituency's views.

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Originally Posted by Cyfr View Post
Why did Labour tell us we were going to have a referendum if they never planned to give it us because we're too stupid to understand it?

...It's about holding our MP accountable to their election pledge.
The remark about being 'too stupid to understand it' are your (quite crass) words. I consider myself to be as compus mentus as the next bloke and I find the treaty somewhat unreadable. That doesn't make me stupid.
I trust the Government to understand it for me and act upon it as it is their job. You would do the same if your party were ever able to be elected into power, regardless of the tripe you claim about creating the same thread if this was a Conservative action.
Your claim of what "it's about" is merely political spin from an oppositional view, as is proved with "Why did Labour tell us...". Good grief - it might as well have come straight from Cameron. There's no concern whatsoever in Conservative critique for the treaty's effect upon the people of Britain. Point scoring is the one and only concern of the Conservative party. It always has been and it always will be.

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This is nothing to do with bashing Europe by proxy, if the people all vote in favour of the treaty in a referendum then so be it, but the people should at least get their say like they were promised.
If people have so much of a strong opinion on the subject then why aren't they telling their MPs Cyfr? Why must we have a referendum? Last I checked, the system of MPs representing your area's views in parliament still existed. You don't need a referendum in order to let the public have a say.

Change the record about election promises please! Only people who voted Labour on basis of a proposed referendum have the right to criticise the Government in the issue of the treaty on this basis.
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