[lisa1234]

Originally Posted by entwisi

You do know that XP 'hides' things you haven't used for a while?

There is usually a 'button' with two small arrows, click this and it expands all teh entries.

hiya thanks no i didnt know it hides things an i dont hav a button to expand it either lol

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Are you looking in system tools or in the 'tools' on your browser?

System tools is found as follows:

start > all programs > accessories > system tools ...... and then there you should see 'disc defragmentor'

What is your OS?

hi do u mean OS as in windows xp, i was lookin in system tools but all it has in there is internet explorer no add ons o well lol

Originally Posted by entwisi

you might have disabled it if you have so many.

One thing you can do is right click over the start button, choose explore

This opens explorer in the start menu for your profile. move up slightly and you will find 'all users', expand this and click into start menu- programs

What you find here are a load of shortcuts to all your programs. what you can do is create 'top level' folders called things like Games, Internet, System, Office, Multimedia etc(up to you what you call them). Then you can move all teh folders etc into these top levels, so You might drag teh mozilla, Internet explorer, news client, email, etc all into teh Internet folder.

When you click teh start- all programs next time you will find teh icons oredered just as you have set them up!.

job done!

when i click explore all users it says i have no programs at all lol but if i just click explore it fetches up wat limited things are in my programs bit nothing is hidden or fell to the bottom

thanks for all ur help

lisa x