[jooles]

i have to apologise suzy my comments earlier... they were not meant to be critical i just offered what has happened in our house... i think your point that you were trying to "outfox the fox" was lost on some people ... when i came back later and saw the comments that your post had brought i was shocked... .. i am not as i said a perfect mum and i have made a lot of mistakes.. what i should have said after was ... my kids are 20.. 22.. and 24 and they are all fine .. one of my kids caught me out .. i told him it was 9.00pm when it was only 8.45pm because by the time he messed around coming in .. getting supper... etc etc etc ... it would be way past his bedtime .. however .. his friend had a watch... and it all ended up in a big row... i was forgiven the same evening but that is family....