[derekgas]

Elderly drivers use their mode of transport as exactly that, many dont see why they should do 30 in a 30 etc, they would feel stupid getting a speeding ticket, so they stay well within the law, there are no rules that state you HAVE to do 30 in a 30 zone, and anyone who insists is both impatient and reckless in my opinion, the people that should be retested (in particular), are not the people who drive below the limit (though I think there should be a minimum for motorways), but the people who regularly exceed the limit, dont indicate lane changes or turning, use wrong lanes, cut up other drivers because they realised they were in the wrong lane etc etc, I am not saying that elderly drivers shouldnt be retested, but there are more serious issues to deal with before this. Some of these problems are made worse by police vehicle drivers, who also seem to have adopted driving without indicators whether in emergency or not. All that said, it sounds very much like nothing would have prevented the very sad events near water street.