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Originally Posted by KIPAX
It works and its free. How much more value for money do you want?..... you sure your not one of these Bill gates haters only you sure come accross as one. 
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Free? No its not, It (as MIcrosoft happily admit) is a core componenet of its operating system which certainly costs money.
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Originally Posted by KIPAX
As for mozila getting an extra 10% of the market.. well according to most stats they dont even have 10% let alone an extra 10%
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Always be lies dam lies and stats, I tend to use industry agreed figures published by independant parties. Have a look here
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
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Originally Posted by KIPAX
Your not even talking a good argument... the only facts you show are pretty useless and even you admit no one would change browsers after reading them.
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I think you need to read that carefully. Statistics will not change minds. Useability will. Not having to avoid the latest phishing scam/ buffer overflow etc is just another bonus. With regard to your stats, I am assuming (perhaps you can confirm) that they are for this site, a forum used by Joe Public who without trying to upset anyone are normal users who will probably admit they know very little about IT. If you were to take the stats from somewhere technical like The Register or a site like B3TA the mix would probably be far closer even skewed the other way.
Isn't it a strange fact that despite the majority of web sites are being hosted on Linux by far the majority of attacks are directed at IIS. I have the logs to prove it.
Microsoft believe in security through obscurity. This clearly does not work. *nix was built on model where users are seperated from system. Microsoft seem to be happy for everyone to be admin. Until Microsoft seperate these two there will always be problems. That is why the current figure quoted for the time taken for an unprotected windows box visible on the internet to become a spam zombie riddled with viruses is less than 10 minutes! If you'd like to try the same on my Linux server I'll happily turn off the firewall adn give you the IP. Lets see if you can alter a sample page on my web server ,tell the name of a file on the filesystem in a pre determined place, or send an email from my box.
PS your figure of 93 for Konqueror must be wrong, I'm on here far more than that
Ian