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Originally Posted by Retlaw
Heck Walt, you don't need a degree in town planning to see that the old 1909 map and the 2 photos match perfectly. In the second photo that shows both the Slaters and the Peel/Broadway pub, you can see they were more or less opposite one another.
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I've never disputed that it was on the opposite corner to the Peel.
My argument is the number of the property, 21& 23 Whalley Rd,
both in the licencing renewals, and the 1871 census show the same man in the same prroperty 21 & 23 Whalley Rd.
1860, 1909 or 1920, the property had the same number.
Retlaw.[/QUOTE]
At the risk of repeating myself, the 1860's licensing report and the 1871 census return have no relevance to the building in the photograph.
I had a look in the ref library today (Blackburn) and every trade directory they have between 1900 and 1938 have the Slaters Arms as number 13 Whalley Road. Now bear in mind Walter, that if number 13 was wrong, it would throw out every number on Whalley Road (on that side of the street anyway). Now I could understand an error being made one year, perhaps even being overlooked when the next edition was published, but over a 38 year period, you would think someone along Whalley Road would have contacted Barratt's (Preston) and complained because their home, shop, business or pub was listed with the wrong address. I'm pretty sure, in fact quite certain that a reputable compiler of directories (they produced them from the 1870's - 1966) like Barratt's would have amended their mistake and apologised to all affected.
The census returns are usually completed / filled out by hired hands, for one day, once every 10 years. Often they would be scribbling details in semi darkness, bored to tears with going through the same set of questions at each door and probably wondering what they'd be having for their supper when they got home. Mistakes could easily be made and with very little scope for the scribbler to amend his / her errors. They probably walked away from doors thinking ''I'm definitely not volunteering for this next time around, was that number 13 or was I at number 23, oh beggar it, no-one will check''
If you came to me in 20 years time with the 1931 census return with who was at the Slaters then, I would still have my doubts at the illegible scrawl in front of me. I'm sure they have their use, the returns, but like everything (including Barratt's directories) they shouldn't be read as Gospel.
As we're putting everyone to sleep, I'm making this my last on this topic (thank goodness for that, I hear people saying), but I would say to anyone else either involved earlier in this thread or perhaps joining it in the future, don't accept my word, don't accept Walter's word (not even if he attempts to humiliate you, as a novice), I would advise you look at the evidence and arrive at your own conclusion.
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