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DaveinGermany · 10-04-2011, 15:43

The EDL aren't a political party so their protests & shouting can't bring about anything in a political sense, but they are rather loud & prominent in their presence. I feel that a lot of what they say is privately held to be true by many less vociferous proponents (for whatever reasons), but this "agreement" is tempered by the view that the bulk of EDL supporters are white, workingclass, poorly educated, football hooligans or ex BNP supporters.

The EDL claim of being multiracial & all encompassing, non discriminatory (sexually or racially) with the stated aim of preventing the creep of Islam & its associated tenets across the UK, while sounding reasonable doesn't really appear that way when viewing the supporters seen at such demonstrations, (I refer here purely to colour as at a glance you can't really make out someones sexual orientation in most cases) admittedly a Sikh chap is frequently mentioned but that appears to be all, not many Asian faces can be seen within the EDL ranks at these rallies.

Having said that though, because of the obvious support overt & covert for the EDL, plus the self claimed increase in new supporters allegedly swelling their ranks, isn't it time for politicians to seriously look at the issues & insist on a more vocal & open debate with the parties concerned to show unity & highlight just what is expected & meant by tolerance, integration & acceptance, these goals should be mutual to improve cohesion within communities & the wider UK, respect is a 2 way street & all sides need to partake & make concessions where applicable.

But & it's a big but, the UK's sovereignty & statutes should be the overriding denominator in all things, this is the UK when all is said & done so all British citizens & guests should abide & adhere to her laws & rules when in residence within her shores. For those not fortune enough to be born within this sceptred Isle or her dominions, you chose her because of her liberal attitudes, right to freedom, graciousness & bounty, so accept them & do not try to enforce change on her & her people, parallel societies are divisive ! Should you wish to live by "your ways & morals" she is not for you, so go where such ways are practised & may you find happiness in your choice.

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DaveinGermany a multieloquent Mule Xeno Tactic Champion! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Back in Bramsche, Germany Posts: 9,023 Blog Entries: 76 Liked: 4664 times Rep Power: 905668	Re: EDL mayhem in Blackburn tomorrow The EDL aren't a political party so their protests & shouting can't bring about anything in a political sense, but they are rather loud & prominent in their presence. I feel that a lot of what they say is privately held to be true by many less vociferous proponents (for whatever reasons), but this "agreement" is tempered by the view that the bulk of EDL supporters are white, workingclass, poorly educated, football hooligans or ex BNP supporters. The EDL claim of being multiracial & all encompassing, non discriminatory (sexually or racially) with the stated aim of preventing the creep of Islam & its associated tenets across the UK, while sounding reasonable doesn't really appear that way when viewing the supporters seen at such demonstrations, (I refer here purely to colour as at a glance you can't really make out someones sexual orientation in most cases) admittedly a Sikh chap is frequently mentioned but that appears to be all, not many Asian faces can be seen within the EDL ranks at these rallies. Having said that though, because of the obvious support overt & covert for the EDL, plus the self claimed increase in new supporters allegedly swelling their ranks, isn't it time for politicians to seriously look at the issues & insist on a more vocal & open debate with the parties concerned to show unity & highlight just what is expected & meant by tolerance, integration & acceptance, these goals should be mutual to improve cohesion within communities & the wider UK, respect is a 2 way street & all sides need to partake & make concessions where applicable. But & it's a big but, the UK's sovereignty & statutes should be the overriding denominator in all things, this is the UK when all is said & done so all British citizens & guests should abide & adhere to her laws & rules when in residence within her shores. For those not fortune enough to be born within this sceptred Isle or her dominions, you chose her because of her liberal attitudes, right to freedom, graciousness & bounty, so accept them & do not try to enforce change on her & her people, parallel societies are divisive ! Should you wish to live by "your ways & morals" she is not for you, so go where such ways are practised & may you find happiness in your choice.