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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
see...like I said before, you are very lucky.
We once had a country like that....but politicians didn't listen when we (the electorate) we re expressing concerns regarding the dilution of our national identity. We were told that immigration(of all kinds) was good for us....diversity was good for us. Any dissent was labelled as racist...which stifled any real rational discussion.
Now at the Labour party conference there is much wringing of hands and much saying of 'mea culpa'...there is an admission that unchecked immigration drove down wages and made us all poorer...and that they are going to learn lessons from the past......just as they have done before(though I didn't see much evidence of this learning).....they got it so wrong, but we have to live with the consequences....they will be long lasting and will alter the fabric of this country forever.
If I was younger you would not see my soles for dust.
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I have mentioned before in several threads that what may be good for a country like Canada, might not be good for the UK. We have grown on diversity, thrived on immigration. We have developed a strong national identity. Folks all over the world know what Canada stands for. They know that Canada can be relied on as a good friend and loyal ally in a crisis: WWl, WWll, Korea, UN peacekeeping, Bosnia, Afghanistan (but not Iraq ll, 'cause we knew that was Bush BS), and whenever there is a disaster Canada is there with money and help. We have struggled to create unity out of diversity: for example, 8 million Canadians speak French as their first language; we have over 700 First Nations; we have major cosmopolitan cities, and we have millions living in farming villages and maritime outports. Let's face it, we shouldn't really be a country.
But the UK is different. It has (or maybe "had") an identity built over centuries. The UK is the cradle of democarcy, the model which all present day democracies have followed. The British stood alone against the Nazis after the collapse of France in 1940. The Battle of Britain, not Stalingrad, was probably the turning point of the last world war. Britain stood alone and faced down Hitler while Roosevelt sat scratching his nuts waiting to see if it was in the US interest to support them with 50 overaged destroyers
What unchecked immigration seems to have done is weaken that identity. I don't see any reason, economic or geopolitical why Britain cannot stand on its own, set limits on immigration, and set rules for immigrants ... play the game by our rules or get the hell back to where you came from
You guys don't need to form a new identity based on diversity. Screw that. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the one you had. I know I don't live there, but I don't believe it is too late to halt the negative changes that immigration and the EU have wrought.