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park381 10-09-2005 20:23
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Originally Posted by Neil
The Friends Group Constitution was discussed and some changes suggested. At the next meeting the committee should be created and the Constitution accepted.

Overall a fairly positive meeting I thought.
Sorry I missed the meeting, who will chair the committee.............??? is there a date for the next meeting

Gayle 10-09-2005 21:39
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None of that has been decided. That's why I got a bit frustrated. PB facilitated the meeting on Thurs (he was very keen to point out that he wasn't chairing it, just facilitating it). When some people wanted to vote a committee on they were told they couldn't, it had to be a postal ballot.

Date of next meeting hasn't been agreed either - I'll bet my bottom dollar that it's scheduled for the 20th October.

park381 11-09-2005 14:12
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Think who ever holds the chair should be a non-HBC person, that way the local people would get a better say.

Just another point on the park, there don't seem to be any maintenance going on at the moment, the hedges facing park lane are now so high the residents can't see the play area :)

Neil 11-09-2005 16:52
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Originally Posted by Gayle Knight
I'll bet my bottom dollar that it's scheduled for the 20th October.
Why do you think that Gayle?
It was decided that only residents of Oswaldtwistle and elected Councillor types could be members of the friends group. I think non residents might be allowed if they are a local business, I was a bit iffy on that bit. It was definately decided that no Councillors could be on the Committee.

Gayle 11-09-2005 17:13
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Only because it's the one night in the next month or so that I can't make. Didn't mean anything by it I was just saying 'just my luck' kind of thing.

park381 11-09-2005 17:13
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I thought the Friends group committee had to be totally independent of the local council for the lottery grant thing to work

Gayle 11-09-2005 17:17
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Well, technically yes, park381 but that doesn't mean that Councillors can't be involved. It means that it should not form part of Council policy and that it should be managed and governed by the committee.

With other Friends groups it's worked quite well to have a couple of Councillors - they have the inside track so's to speak.

What I was concerned about was the authority of the Area Council over the Friends group. Apparently the Friends group has to report to the Area Council - that is controlled by the Council. So, it's sort of handing it to the residents but then making them answerable to the Council - not sure how exactly that will work.

park381 11-09-2005 17:26
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Will the lottery grant not be under the control of the Friends Group ?

Gayle 11-09-2005 17:33
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Yes, and you see there's another thing that needs to be cleared up quickly. It's Council officers who are currently leading on the funding application.

Which is another area where I have a bit of a problem.

To write a funding application properly you have to state exactly what you're going to spend the money on. You can't just fill in the form and say 'can we have £1m please, we'll spend it really wisely'.

So, how can they write up a bid without the committee being formed and without the consultation process taking place? Yet, that is precisely what has happened which means that someone has made some decisions about it already or the bid couldn't be written. I mean, for instance, if the funding bid states they want to reinstate a bandstand or crazy golf, or if they want to turn the old playground into a football pitch or an open air theatre, how could they do this without consultation?

Neil 11-09-2005 17:50
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I agree Gayle about the Area Council (meeting this Thursday by the way). I think it may have something to do with the Council still having over all authority in the park still. It is HBC's park and they are not giving all powers away just yet. They mentioned things like HBc still being responsible fo insurance in the park. Your other point is something that I have also thought about. When the money comes ( if ever ) whose bank account will it land in? HBC or The Friends of Rhyddings Park? I really can't see HBC allowing a group of residents 'play' with £1,000,000, can you?

Gayle 11-09-2005 17:51
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Yes, but technically if FofRP apply for it then they must have a bank account to receive it. Again technically that would give them the right to 'play' with it. I can't see HBC allowing them to do that either.

Neil 11-09-2005 18:01
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It will be interesting to see what happens. My problem with HBC being too involved is that it will turn into another broadway.

park381 11-09-2005 19:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gayle Knight
Yes, and you see there's another thing that needs to be cleared up quickly. It's Council officers who are currently leading on the funding application.

Which is another area where I have a bit of a problem.

To write a funding application properly you have to state exactly what you're going to spend the money on. You can't just fill in the form and say 'can we have £1m please, we'll spend it really wisely'.

So, how can they write up a bid without the committee being formed and without the consultation process taking place? Yet, that is precisely what has happened which means that someone has made some decisions about it already or the bid couldn't be written. I mean, for instance, if the funding bid states they want to reinstate a bandstand or crazy golf, or if they want to turn the old playground into a football pitch or an open air theatre, how could they do this without consultation?
Was the whole idea not to put the park back as it was. When the Head of parks gave his little presentation at the area council meeting, it was to resurface paths, add seating, and other "minor" items HBC had already done the ground work, as you say Gayle the bid will need to be detailed and complete with estimates, and will need to include all professional fees etc. The main thing is to have a voice on the committee a local voice. Was there not also an indication of refurbishment of the existing buildings in the park, to be hired out for community use.

park381 11-09-2005 19:49
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Originally Posted by Neil
It will be interesting to see what happens. My problem with HBC being too involved is that it will turn into another broadway.
The area council is HBC is it not so HBC are the front runners in this. Not bad......a lottery grant to cover up the failure to carry out maintenance on the park over many years.

garinda 29-09-2005 00:42
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So how did the election go last night? Did Neil win, and was Romps voted in as sec?


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