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ossypete 01-04-2008 20:41

Stanhill ring spinning mill
 
has anyone any good information on this ie pictures etc i have seen the ones on here but wondered if anyone had any tucked away anywhere. Always been interested in it as i remember it vaguely as a kid.Can anyone tell me anything.Was it steam powered ?? what happened to the engine if it was ??

katex 02-04-2008 12:29

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Hi Ossypete .. just got this from the Chairman of the company I have just retired from .. not answering all your queries, but hope it is useful.

(Have had to type it out sorry .. couldn't just 'slice' the bit out I wanted LOL)

'Stanhill Ring Spinning Mill

Built 1907 by the Stanhill Ring Spinning Co., a local public company promoted by A.S. Bury, John Barlow, William Moulding and others.

72,000 Howard and Bullough ring spindles producing 16/62s American yarns in 1920. 500 operatives. The mill was powered by a 1860 hp high and low pressure horizontal cross compound engine, self condensing by Yates & Thom, 48 rope drive, and four Lancashire boilers by the same maker.

By the 1930's 87,000 ring spindles were operating at the mill. Following the Second World war, the mill was taken over by English Sewing Cotton Limited, a company which subsequently became English Calico and finally part of the Tootal Group. The factory was extensively re-equipped in the mid-1950's.

Closure was announced during early 1980 and, at the time of writing (June 1980), the mill has just ceased production.

Building

Large four storey machine brick spinning mill with stone string course pilasters, decorative motifs and semi-circular pediments above window openings. Centre projection on north face is inscribed 'Stanhill Ring Spinning Co'. Latrine turrets at east and west gables. Large two storey engine house with adjoining yard. Single storey office with elaborate stone pediment over former main door, window surround has date of 1907. A range of one storey loading bays, etc., flank the north face of the mill. The settlement of terraced houses in Percy, Tower and Newton Streets developed following the erection of the mill. Spread Eagle Street predates the factory. '

I used to love going in Stanhill and other spinning mills ..the floor was just like a ballroom.

Sue1 07-04-2008 13:39

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Is Spread Eagle Street still standing. My parents respective families lived at 5 and 7 Spreadeagle Street in 1921 - the names were Dean and Davies. Is the Mill still there and is there by any chance a pub called The Spread Eagle? I have never been to Oswaldtwistle but plan to visit this year!!! Better late than never ......... Is the Church of St. Oswalds still there?

West Ender 12-04-2008 20:30

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Spread Eagle St was still there last time I drove through West End but I believe the mill has gone. There once was a pub called the Spread Eagle but it was gone long before I was born in 1943.

cashman 12-04-2008 23:02

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the old stanhill ring mill still stands, its now a leather suite supplier, we just recently visited n bought one. top quality gear also.;)

West Ender 13-04-2008 22:16

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 561385)
the old stanhill ring mill still stands, its now a leather suite supplier, we just recently visited n bought one. top quality gear also.;)


That's puzzling as the chimney wasn't there last time I passed and Google Earth shows 3 streets, one of them called Fountains Way, right where the mill used to be.

BERNADETTE 13-04-2008 22:29

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 561871)
That's puzzling as the chimney wasn't there last time I passed and Google Earth shows 3 streets, one of them called Fountains Way, right where the mill used to be.

Probably pulled a big part of it down but will find out for sure, my sister lives just further up Blackburn Road.

katex 13-04-2008 22:40

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 561874)
Probably pulled a big part of it down but will find out for sure, my sister lives just further up Blackburn Road.

Do you think Cashy is confused with B.M. Furniture which is domiciled in Vine Mill ?

Stanhill Mill was demolished. (or could be just part Bernie ? .. :confused:)

cashman 13-04-2008 22:42

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 561878)
Do you think Cashy is confused with B.M. Furniture which is domiciled in Vine Mill ?

Stanhill Mill was demolished. (or could be just part Bernie ? .. :confused:)

cashy is not confused was in the damn thing with paris 3 times before we purchased, so it aint all gone.

BERNADETTE 13-04-2008 22:43

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 561878)
Do you think Cashy is confused with B.M. Furniture which is domiciled in Vine Mill ?

Stanhill Mill was demolished. (or could be just part Bernie ? .. :confused:)

I thought it had gone but as I'm not sure thought I would find out.

steeljack 13-04-2008 22:55

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I'm, confused now , I allways thought Stanhill mill was the big red brick building at west end in Ossy up Spread Eagle st. and Percy st. area, which was the Vine mill? names familar but can't place it :confused:

cashman 13-04-2008 22:56

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 561888)
I'm, confused now , I allways thought Stanhill mill was the big red brick building at west end in Ossy up Spread Eagle st. and Percy st. area, which was the Vine mill? names familar but can't place it :confused:

Vines way up Union Rd john, sells crap suites.;)

steeljack 13-04-2008 23:05

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 561890)
Vines way up Union Rd john, sells crap suites.;)

is that the one "up back o johns" on way to Cocker Chemicals ?

katex 13-04-2008 23:08

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You could be correct Cashy and that they did leave a small part of it standing. Must admit that I have not been up those streets for a long time, just that this threw me a little and Google Earth too :-

'However, it is clear that Henry Holt made several visits to some big demolition sites photographing them and adding numerous bricks to his collection in the process. Stanhill Ring Mill at Oswaldtwistle, Mill Lane Spinning Co. at Leigh, and Broadfield School at Rochdale are just three examples of a substantial number of demolitions which Henry recorded at some length. '

Some guy that collects bricks.

cashman 13-04-2008 23:13

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 561892)
is that the one "up back o johns" on way to Cocker Chemicals ?

its up past the Black Dog on down the dip n off to yer left.

cashman 13-04-2008 23:17

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 561895)
You could be correct Cashy and that they did leave a small part of it standing. Must admit that I have not been up those streets for a long time, just that this threw me a little and Google Earth too :-

'However, it is clear that Henry Holt made several visits to some big demolition sites photographing them and adding numerous bricks to his collection in the process. Stanhill Ring Mill at Oswaldtwistle, Mill Lane Spinning Co. at Leigh, and Broadfield School at Rochdale are just three examples of a substantial number of demolitions which Henry recorded at some length. '

Some guy that collects bricks.

take no notice of Google Earth- me apartments not there n i just left it last week.:D:D;)think the firms called Winchester Furniture, aint sure,will ask the boss tomoz.

katex 13-04-2008 23:34

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 561898)
take no notice of Google Earth- me apartments not there n i just left it last week.:D:D;)think the firms called Winchester Furniture, aint sure,will ask the boss tomoz.

Yeh, just found it Cashy .. but not sure if ex Stanhill ?:-


Winchester Furniture UK Ltd Information

Didn't know that was there.

garinda 13-04-2008 23:58

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 561888)
which was the Vine mill? names familar but can't place it :confused:

Not sure if Google map links work on here, but this is it.

Google Maps

Handily for those looking for it, it has 'Vine Mills', in white tiles, on the side of the red brick tower.:D

garinda 14-04-2008 00:00

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Ooops, link doesn't work.:(

But if you type in 'Vine Mills Oswaldtwistle', it'll bring you up a map.

MargaretR 14-04-2008 00:00

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Winchester -They have, or had, a place at Higham -got a chesterfield off them about 10 yrs ago

West Ender 14-04-2008 18:05

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 561900)
Yeh, just found it Cashy .. but not sure if ex Stanhill ?:-


Winchester Furniture UK Ltd Information

Didn't know that was there.



The link shows the address - Norman Rd., which was less than 100 yards from my home (I lived opposite what was then the petrol filling station. I had a great aunt who lived on Norman Rd.)). The old Co-op Laundry was on that street and there now seem to be quite a few large units there and half the houses knocked down.

Stanhill Spinning Mill was a very large building on Tower St., at the top of Spread Eagle St. There was nothing either side or behind it, just the little group of streets, Spread Eagle, Tower and Percy, which it towered over. Maps, as well as Google Earth, definitely show 3 new streets where the mill stood and more new streets at the top of Norman Rd.

katex 14-04-2008 18:35

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 562118)
The link shows the address - Norman Rd., which was less than 100 yards from my home (I lived opposite what was then the petrol filling station. I had a great aunt who lived on Norman Rd.)). The old Co-op Laundry was on that street and there now seem to be quite a few large units there and half the houses knocked down.

Stanhill Spinning Mill was a very large building on Tower St., at the top of Spread Eagle St. There was nothing either side or behind it, just the little group of streets, Spread Eagle, Tower and Percy, which it towered over. Maps, as well as Google Earth, definitely show 3 new streets where the mill stood and more new streets at the top of Norman Rd.

Listen West Ender ... know we are correct about Stanhill .. was definitely demolished .. just have to let Cashy down carefully .. he will argue black is white, etc ..... :D At least found a store that sells leather suites if ever I am need of one.

West Ender 14-04-2008 20:09

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Proof in the text and in the photo. ;)


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BERNADETTE 14-04-2008 20:23

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Knew they had built a housing estate but couldn't remember if they left some of the mill standing and couldn't be bothered arguing.

West Ender 14-04-2008 20:51

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When I was very small there used to be a "rec" next to the mill, on the West side of it. I can remember being taken there and playing in a sand pit and on the swings and a seesaw. It closed before I started school, I think the equipment was very old, but nothing replaced it and it was just left as an empty space.

cashman 14-04-2008 21:30

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was the offices of the ring mill not in the building still standing on norman rd?:confused: seem to vaugley remember Fred Dibnah demolished the old chimney, could be wrong on that as well.:D

katex 14-04-2008 21:49

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 562258)
Proof in the text and in the photo. ;)


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Well done on finding that West Ender ... that should keep Ossypete happy too .. not that he has thanked us like for our efforts .... :rolleyes:

"was the offices of the ring mill not in the building still standing on norman rd? seem to vaugley remember Fred Dibnah demolished the old chimney, could be wrong on that as well." quote from Cashy.

Well Fred Dibnah demolished most chimneys around here, didn't he Cashy ? (can you imagine what he was like as a little lad !).. don't know the answer to that .. but will ring Winchester tomorrow to ask if their premises are the offices of Stanhill. Doubt it though, if you had read my earlier post.... :D

West Ender 14-04-2008 22:20

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There was only the laundry on Norman Rd. All the units that are there now are quite recent. There was a row of terraced houses (about a dozen, maybe more) then the laundry, which was quite sizeable, then it was fields all the way to Stanhill. The mill's offices were inside the mill building.

cashman 14-04-2008 23:07

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ok hold me hand up it musta been the laundry then, its n old building though not new,the upstairs where winchester is looks like a mill room though.

firefighter753 15-04-2008 12:25

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was the offices of the ring mill not in the building still standing on norman rd?:confused: seem to vaugley remember Fred Dibnah demolished the old chimney, could be wrong on that as well.

Yes Fred did demolish the chimney (although spent most of the time in the hare and hounds), they also filmed a VW Scirroco advert there whilst the chimney was felled. Do you remember it, it showed the car speeding off as the chimney fell behind it.

cashman 15-04-2008 12:58

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just been in again today, its a red brick building looks very much like a mill roof from inside, asked the guys there, they were not sure,but said they thought it used to be "Cobble" which i assume must be "Singer Cobble"? maybe westender or someone can corroberate?:confused:

West Ender 15-04-2008 17:03

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 562564)
just been in again today, its a red brick building looks very much like a mill roof from inside, asked the guys there, they were not sure,but said they thought it used to be "Cobble" which i assume must be "Singer Cobble"? maybe westender or someone can corroberate?:confused:

I found this, Cashy, when I googled Cobble. They appear to make carpets but it says Norman Rd. is the guage parts division. It wasn't there 45 years ago


http://www.cobble.co.uk/docs/COB005.pdf


http://www.taylorweaver.co.uk/ImageH...10&h=450&w=600


This is the building. It's definitely the old laundry. The blurb says it was sold by Cobble to Winchester Furniture.

BERNADETTE 15-04-2008 17:17

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My brother worked at "Cobble" years ago but it was near Copy Nook. Would there be more than one factory up and running?

steeljack 15-04-2008 17:41

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 562770)
My brother worked at "Cobble" years ago but it was near Copy Nook. Would there be more than one factory up and running?

they also had a big factory/works out near Cherry Tree/Witton area , had a reputation as a good company to work for

BERNADETTE 15-04-2008 17:51

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 562799)
they also had a big factory/works out near Cherry Tree/Witton area , had a reputation as a good company to work for

Sounds like they were a big company, my brother worked there for years and if I remember rightly he travelled overseas quite a lot whilst working for them.

steeljack 15-04-2008 18:00

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 562809)
Sounds like they were a big company, my brother worked there for years and if I remember rightly he travelled overseas quite a lot whilst working for them.

yep , think they made machines for making carpets (tufting equipment ?) , they used to have crews which travelled all over the world doing installation once bumped into a bunch of them in a bar in Isfahan Iran

BERNADETTE 15-04-2008 18:12

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 562817)
yep , think they made machines for making carpets (tufting equipment ?) , they used to have crews which travelled all over the world doing installation once bumped into a bunch of them in a bar in Isfahan Iran

You may well have met him then he definetly went to Iran.

cashman 15-04-2008 19:57

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 562749)
I found this, Cashy, when I googled Cobble. They appear to make carpets but it says Norman Rd. is the guage parts division. It wasn't there 45 years ago


http://www.cobble.co.uk/docs/COB005.pdf


http://www.taylorweaver.co.uk/ImageH...10&h=450&w=600


This is the building. It's definitely the old laundry. The blurb says it was sold by Cobble to Winchester Furniture.

ah thats the one, the little black door at the bottom is where you go to acess the upstairs,cheers west ender.

West Ender 15-04-2008 21:19

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Where that grotty caravan is, in the picture, used to be the end of the row of terraced houses. The long cement-fronted bit, with the door in it, was a big double-doored opening on to a huge room where all the laundry parcels went. Further up the road was another similar room where they had all the clean laundry parcels. Somewhere in the building, I'm not sure where as I never saw it, was a big furnace which heated water in a huge boiler.

They had a horse-drawn van for delivering the parcels, in the 40s, and the driver, who knew my family well, was called Alf. If he saw me waiting at the bus stop at Church Commercial, on the way home from school, he would stop and give me a lift in the van with all the brown paper parcels of laundry. I always felt very proud and very honoured when he dropped me off at my front door. :D

ossypete 16-04-2008 21:53

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 562351)
Well done on finding that West Ender ... that should keep Ossypete happy too .. not that he has thanked us like for our efforts .... :rolleyes:

"was the offices of the ring mill not in the building still standing on norman rd? seem to vaugley remember Fred Dibnah demolished the old chimney, could be wrong on that as well." quote from Cashy.

Well Fred Dibnah demolished most chimneys around here, didn't he Cashy ? (can you imagine what he was like as a little lad !).. don't know the answer to that .. but will ring Winchester tomorrow to ask if their premises are the offices of Stanhill. Doubt it though, if you had read my earlier post.... :D

been checking this post for days after i posted it nothing happens , then suddenly it goes mad !!! i am greatfull for the info , i actually lived on the housing estate where the mill was on turnpike grove. house across road from where i lived was built on the old engine beds. :-)

katex 16-04-2008 22:02

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Originally Posted by ossypete (Post 563674)
been checking this post for days after i posted it nothing happens , then suddenly it goes mad !!! i am greatfull for the info , i actually lived on the housing estate where the mill was on turnpike grove. house across road from where i lived was built on the old engine beds. :-)

Glad we could help Ossypete .. took lots of discussion though :D .. good thread .. enjoyed.

andrewparkeruk 07-08-2019 22:05

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Eleven years on, I may be able to add some information. My Dad did the building maintenance at Stanhill Ring mill in the 1970s until it closed; I am pretty sure he was there when the VW Scirocco ad was filmed. My Mum worked in the offices at both Vine Mill, then Stanhill Ring. As a kid I was quite familiar with both mills.
The flat roof of Stanhill Ring mill was designed to hold rainwater. I remember being up on the roof with my Dad and it looked like a series of ponds. If I remember correctly the roof was sealed with tarmacadam, and the water was to stop the tarmac blistering and failing. I think the water was a couple of feet deep.
I worked for a few weeks at Vine Mill when part of it was operated by Bentley&Whitehead; that would have been 1973 or 1974.
Lol Eddleston’s scrap yard; the Ministry making wheelchairs (the source of axles and wheels on all of the trolleys kids in the area had); the TCP aroma from Cocker Chemicals; ...


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