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Gayle 20-10-2008 12:59

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We are producing a calendar for Rhyddings Park this year. We've got a lot of pictures but could really do with some more.

If you have any pictures that you think could be included let me know - either email them to me at [email protected] or pm me on here.

What we're looking for are pictures that show the park off at its best. It might also be nice if there are some pictures of the play areas. What we're NOT looking for are old pictures - we have plenty of them.

An example for you. Thanks to James Baron.

There are a lot of months to fill so please send us your pics.

Neil 20-10-2008 13:44

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Here is one. Its a shame its not a better picture though.

Neil 20-10-2008 13:48

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This one is a couple of years old

Gayle 20-10-2008 14:40

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As a 'prize' anyone who sends us a photo that we use will get a copy of the calendar.

katex 20-10-2008 15:10

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This is one that Mez took of 'Picnic in the Park' which would be good for a summer month. Know a certain photographer took quite a few .. ;)

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Gayle 20-10-2008 15:18

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Although that's a good pic, we do have a lot from that day.

It's more the other areas of the park that we need. Thanks Kate

K-P 20-10-2008 15:21

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 642978)
Although that's a good pic, we do have a lot from that day.

A whole DVD full of them in fact :) Any being used in this project?

katex 20-10-2008 15:37

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Oh Darn it ! knash, knash .. missed opportunity of a free calender.. LOL.

Oh, there's that photographer I was thinking about ... :D

Gayle 20-10-2008 16:03

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Originally Posted by K-P (Post 642979)
A whole DVD full of them in fact :) Any being used in this project?

A couple yes, they show our park full to bursting.

panther 20-10-2008 18:00

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Iv got a pic of me and my family sat in rhyddings park when i was a baby (many moons ago:rolleyes: )
Trouble is its black and white and all tatty:(

Neil 20-10-2008 18:59

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 643059)
Iv got a pic of me and my family sat in rhyddings park when i was a baby (many moons ago:rolleyes: )
Trouble is its sepia tone and all tatty:(

Your showing your age now ;)

katex 20-10-2008 22:39

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Well, I think a piccy of Neil just in his shorts next to the new goat would double up for the Hyndburn Hunks too... :D Trouble is the Observer might just crop down to the goat.

jaysay 21-10-2008 09:18

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 643126)
Well, I think a piccy of Neil just in his shorts next to the new goat would double up for the Hyndburn Hunks too... :D Trouble is the Observer might just crop down to the goat.

Na kate they'd keep um both in, not in the Hunks comp, but maybe knobbly Knees contest:D

park381 21-10-2008 18:39

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I have a few, may be they could be used as "before and after"......pets corner etc :D

Sorry Gayle, & Neil, you are doing a good job :Banane35:



panther 21-10-2008 18:52

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 643074)
Your showing your age now ;)

Hey im not that old!!, ya cheeky begger...:rolleyes:

Neil 21-10-2008 18:54

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 643340)
Sorry Gayle, & Neil, you are doing a good job :Banane35:

If you think we are doing a good job why post such stupid pictures when you know we want them for a calendar?

We all know what a mess the park is. That is why we are spending so much of our own time to try and make a difference to the park.

Why don't you make a contribution to the park and ask mick to remove your post?

park381 21-10-2008 18:54

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Just found a few more :D

I think the last one shows where the pavillion used to be, the little dears thought they would have a bonfire. Another good clearing up job by HBC. Would class it as a H&S problem

park381 21-10-2008 19:00

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 643350)
If you think we are doing a good job why post such stupid pictures when you know we want them for a calendar?

Dear me are you loosing your temper, I thought that the pics would be useful to show a before and after image.
I lived facing the park for 27 years and have seen for myself the sad decline of a great faciltiy, we used to have a band-stand, and a pavillion but the little dears of Ossy decided to burn them down, that was years ago what have HBC been doing in the mean time.................not a lot.

I see what I see and say what I think, if you do not like it then as far as I am concerned that is tough. OK my friend :mosher:

Gayle 21-10-2008 19:22

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I like the third one of the flower bed - any chance you could email me a high res version of it?

park381 21-10-2008 19:38

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 643371)
I like the third one of the flower bed - any chance you could email me a high res version of it?

Hi Gayle, yes no problem PM me with your email,glad to be able to help. I should have a few more good ones, will have a look and post them on here if I find them

Gayle 21-10-2008 19:42

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It's in the first post. When you email let me know how you would like crediting on the calendar.

park381 21-10-2008 19:53

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 643383)
It's in the first post. When you email let me know how you would like crediting on the calendar.

Don't need any credits Gayle, the pic is just one of many I have taken over the years that show the decline of the park, It is really sad to see it in the state it's in today. I remember Mr Pratt running round the rose garden several times each day.(lived in house at corner of Rhyddings St & Hornby St)

paulthepony 22-10-2008 17:20

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no pics about winter? well i have just sent you some, hope they can be used gayle

Gayle 22-10-2008 17:31

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They are fab, thanks

And to everyone else - keep them coming.

park381 23-01-2009 14:57

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Instead of starting a new thread, thought I would bring this one back to life.

From articles in both the LET & Observer I see that HBC have pulled the plug on the Heritage Lottery Grant and have withdrawn the bid.

What effect is this going to have on the Friends of Rhyddings Park?

Are we going to finish up with the park being closed by HBC on health & safety grounds if repairs don't get done soon.

Do they not have a maintenance budget for "park repairs" if so where do they use the funds

jaysay 23-01-2009 16:31

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 671693)
Instead of starting a new thread, thought I would bring this one back to life.

From articles in both the LET & Observer I see that HBC have pulled the plug on the Heritage Lottery Grant and have withdrawn the bid.

What effect is this going to have on the Friends of Rhyddings Park?

Are we going to finish up with the park being closed by HBC on health & safety grounds if repairs don't get done soon.

Do they not have a maintenance budget for "park repairs" if so where do they use the funds

Think if you read the article it says they have been advised to withdraw the bid as it stands because they wouldn't stand much chance of get a grant in the category they were applying, but I think they will be trying for another grant, but maybe Neil or Gayle will give more info, as I think FORP had an emergency meeting to discuss the matter

park381 23-01-2009 16:47

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Think if you read the article it says they have been advised to withdraw the bid as it stands because they wouldn't stand much chance of get a grant in the category they were applying, but I think they will be trying for another grant, but maybe Neil or Gayle will give more info, as I think FORP had an emergency meeting to discuss the matter

I quote the Headline from the Observer
"Parks funding bid fails"
I did read both articles.
If HBC try for another grant/bid will that not be the third time a lottery bid has been put together for Rhyddings Park. It would seem that they meaning the officers of HBC are not able to get things correct.
I am also sure that the friends of rhyddings park will give us more info.
Getting back to my previous post, what happens meantime, is there a danger of the park being closed on a health & safety issue, since the paths due to lack of maintenance in previous years are in a very poor and dangerous condition.

The question stands What now?

park381 23-01-2009 18:49

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May be if our Councillors donated their increases in allowance to the parks maintenance fund it would help. The rises vary from 2.50% up to a staggering 144.14%
Council makes a meal of rises - News - Accrington Observer

Note the 144.14% is for an evening meal, to qualify the councillor must be away from home for more than 4hours and beyond 7pm...............wow. :eek:


Neil 23-01-2009 21:58

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Why has this old thread been dug up for a new topic?

park381 24-01-2009 07:52

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 671825)
Why has this old thread been dug up for a new topic?

If you read the articles you will see that the friends of rhyddings park are mentioned in the articles, and since this thread involves the friends of rhyddings park there was no point in starting another thread.

I asked a simple question " what effect is the withdrawal of HBC's lottery bid going to have on the friends of rhyddings park"

Neil 24-01-2009 09:24

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 671843)
If you read the articles you will see that the friends of rhyddings park are mentioned in the articles, and since this thread involves the friends of rhyddings park there was no point in starting another thread.

But this thread is about calendar pictures not lottery bids. Tagging a new topic onto the end of another thread is not the way the forum is supposed to work.

park381 24-01-2009 09:40

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 671849)
But this thread is about calendar pictures not lottery bids. Tagging a new topic onto the end of another thread is not the way the forum is supposed to work.

It is also about the friends of rhyddings park, is it not. Was the calendar not produced by FRP group.
I asked a question of FRP.
If you are not happy get admin to remove the posts, or move them to a new thread :rolleyes:

Gayle 24-01-2009 10:28

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Please boys, stop squabbling - I've had to spend the last three nights looking after four, 7 year old boys backstage at panto and you're just as bad!

Now, on the subject in hand -

Friends of Rhyddings Park are aware of the lottery bid situation and will be discussing it at our next meeting on 12th February. Everybody who is interested is welcome to come and join in the discussion.

The lottery bid was 'withdrawn' because the council were advised that it would not be succesful in its current form. The council could have elected to keep the bid in the system but after being told it wouldn't stand much chance there was no point in doing that. If it had stayed in the system and failed then we wouldn't be able to apply again for something like five years. If the council withdrew it they can continue to work on it and resubmit it for the next round.

A couple of us have a meeting with Cllr Britcliffe in a week or so's time and the parks dept are invited. We were told many months ago that, should the bid fail, the council would immediately put money into essential maintenance i.e. paths. At this stage and until we meet with them we don't know exactly what that will entail.

However, the main point is that we're working together to improve the park. In the meantime, the Friends of Rhyddings Park group is applying for other funding to put other amenities into the park, (sometimes, the Friends of RP group is eligible to apply to different pots than the council).

jaysay 24-01-2009 10:46

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 671864)
Please boys, stop squabbling - I've had to spend the last three nights looking after four, 7 year old boys backstage at panto and you're just as bad!

Now, on the subject in hand -

Friends of Rhyddings Park are aware of the lottery bid situation and will be discussing it at our next meeting on 12th February. Everybody who is interested is welcome to come and join in the discussion.

The lottery bid was 'withdrawn' because the council were advised that it would not be succesful in its current form. The council could have elected to keep the bid in the system but after being told it wouldn't stand much chance there was no point in doing that. If it had stayed in the system and failed then we wouldn't be able to apply again for something like five years. If the council withdrew it they can continue to work on it and resubmit it for the next round.

A couple of us have a meeting with Cllr Britcliffe in a week or so's time and the parks dept are invited. We were told many months ago that, should the bid fail, the council would immediately put money into essential maintenance i.e. paths. At this stage and until we meet with them we don't know exactly what that will entail.

However, the main point is that we're working together to improve the park. In the meantime, the Friends of Rhyddings Park group is applying for other funding to put other amenities into the park, (sometimes, the Friends of RP group is eligible to apply to different pots than the council).

Thanks Gayle, that's exactly how I read the article, it would appear that people can't wait to take a big stack to the council at every opportunity, like I've said before if you can do better get your backside in gear and have a do. the Problems with Rhyddings Park stems back to the time when councillors thought it was a good idea to let kids play football on bowling greens and the like, at the time there were 44 Labour councillors and 3 Tories

park381 24-01-2009 13:23

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 671864)
Please boys, stop squabbling - I've had to spend the last three nights looking after four, 7 year old boys backstage at panto and you're just as bad!

No problem here Gayle, I just asked some simple questions

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Now, on the subject in hand -

Friends of Rhyddings Park are aware of the lottery bid situation and will be discussing it at our next meeting on 12th February. Everybody who is interested is welcome to come and join in the discussion.

The lottery bid was 'withdrawn' because the council were advised that it would not be succesful in its current form. The council could have elected to keep the bid in the system but after being told it wouldn't stand much chance there was no point in doing that. If it had stayed in the system and failed then we wouldn't be able to apply again for something like five years. If the council withdrew it they can continue to work on it and resubmit it for the next round.

A couple of us have a meeting with Cllr Britcliffe in a week or so's time and the parks dept are invited. We were told many months ago that, should the bid fail, the council would immediately put money into essential maintenance i.e. paths. At this stage and until we meet with them we don't know exactly what that will entail.

However, the main point is that we're working together to improve the park. In the meantime, the Friends of Rhyddings Park group is applying for other funding to put other amenities into the park, (sometimes, the Friends of RP group is eligible to apply to different pots than the council).
Thank you for answering my question Gayle, I like the bit about the essiential maintenance which was my second question :)

park381 24-01-2009 13:40

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 671867)
Thanks Gayle, that's exactly how I read the article, it would appear that people can't wait to take a big stack to the council at every opportunity, like I've said before if you can do better get your backside in gear and have a do. the Problems with Rhyddings Park stems back to the time when councillors thought it was a good idea to let kids play football on bowling greens and the like, at the time there were 44 Labour councillors and 3 Tories

Who's taking a big stick to the Council, and as for your other comments about getting off ones backside and having a go, that could well happen taking in to account the increases in allowances nice little earner. :D
As for the problems with Rhyddings Park starting at the time there were 44 labour councillors and 3 tories and kids being allowed to play football on the bowling greens, that is no excuse, there has been little or no money spent in that park in the last 10years other than the play area and were not the funds for that from another source, not the council. So please don't cloud the issue and blame the labour party. :D

jaysay 24-01-2009 14:06

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 671910)
Who's taking a big stick to the Council, and as for your other comments about getting off ones backside and having a go, that could well happen taking in to account the increases in allowances nice little earner. :D
As for the problems with Rhyddings Park starting at the time there were 44 labour councillors and 3 Tories and kids being allowed to play football on the bowling greens, that is no excuse, there has been little or no money spent in that park in the last 10years other than the play area and were not the funds for that from another source, not the council. So please don't cloud the issue and blame the labour party. :D

If all your interested in is money try the County Council, what Britcliffe gets paid is peanuts in comparison. And as for money coming from another source, when Labour were in control they never even bother to repair the pavilion on the bottom green, even though they had the insurance money from the fire, never mind trying for outside sources for funding other projects

park381 24-01-2009 16:35

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If all your interested in is money try the County Council, what Britcliffe gets paid is peanuts in comparison.

No worry, I am aware of the high level of expenses of some of the County Councillors, photo calls and complaints spring to mind.I would not call PB's expenses/payments peanuts, and I am sure there are a lot more people out there would welcome that sort of salary each year.It's a little over the basic wage level is it not.
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And as for money coming from another source, when Labour were in control they never even bother to repair the pavilion on the bottom green, even though they had the insurance money from the fire, never mind trying for outside sources for funding other projects
You don't need to tell me about the demise of the park I lived in the area for 28 years, and saw the demise with my own eyes, however that still does not excuse the lack of maintenance funding over the last few years during the tory rule.

At the end of the day Rhyddings Park is in urgent need of restoring to it's former glory, be it via a Labour/Tory Council/Belated Lottery Grant/Efforts of the Friends of Rhyddings Park


jaysay 25-01-2009 09:53

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No worry, I am aware of the high level of expenses of some of the County Councillors, photo calls and complaints spring to mind.I would not call PB's expenses/payments peanuts, and I am sure there are a lot more people out there would welcome that sort of salary each year.It's a little over the basic wage level is it not.
You don't need to tell me about the demise of the park I lived in the area for 28 years, and saw the demise with my own eyes, however that still does not excuse the lack of maintenance funding over the last few years during the tory rule.

At the end of the day Rhyddings Park is in urgent need of restoring to it's former glory, be it via a Labour/Tory Council/Belated Lottery Grant/Efforts of the Friends of Rhyddings Park

I agree that the Parks should be restored to their former glory, but in these days of spiralling costs, the general public would be up in arms if the council tax were to increase to pay for everything which they think is essential, its a catch 22 position, your damned if you do and damned if don't. The only way forward is by outside financing, which in the scheme of things isn't easy to come by either, that is unless you represent groups supporting Asylum seekers and the like, then money is pored in like its a bottomless pit

garinda 25-01-2009 10:00

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I think it might be an idea for any future funding bids to include plans for a Peace Garden.

:D

MargaretR 25-01-2009 10:19

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In view of hard times looming, which make make the 30s Great Depression pale by comparison, it may be necessary to consider converting part or all of the park to allottment food growing

park381 25-01-2009 10:56

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 672074)
I agree that the Parks should be restored to their former glory, but in these days of spiralling costs, the general public would be up in arms if the council tax were to increase to pay for everything which they think is essential, its a catch 22 position, your damned if you do and damned if don't. The only way forward is by outside financing, which in the scheme of things isn't easy to come by either, that is unless you represent groups supporting Asylum seekers and the like, then money is pored in like its a bottomless pit

Not exactly true, we have gone though an era when money was plentiful, what happened to the parks budget in those days, it has not spent in the parks for years that's for sure.
If the maintenance element is left out of the next bid, may be there will be a chance. If you read CABE Space 2004 you will see that the lottery people ask for details of existing park management & maintenance plans, from the state of the park they are none existent.
Lets hope we are all around to see the park brought back to its former glory

jaysay 26-01-2009 11:32

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 672107)
Not exactly true, we have gone though an era when money was plentiful, what happened to the parks budget in those days, it has not spent in the parks for years that's for sure.
If the maintenance element is left out of the next bid, may be there will be a chance. If you read CABE Space 2004 you will see that the lottery people ask for details of existing park management & maintenance plans, from the state of the park they are none existent.
Lets hope we are all around to see the park brought back to its former glory

I don't think that will ever happen Park, time was when we had our own park keeper and staff, but those days have gone for good, councils of all colours are having to walk a fin line on financing these days, to turn the clock back would mean huge increases in Council Tax, which today is something neither the council nor the public will endorse, its just a sign of the times I'm afraid

park381 26-01-2009 12:20

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 672529)
I don't think that will ever happen Park, time was when we had our own park keeper and staff, but those days have gone for good, councils of all colours are having to walk a fin line on financing these days, to turn the clock back would mean huge increases in Council Tax, which today is something neither the council nor the public will endorse, its just a sign of the times I'm afraid

From Gayles Post
"A couple of us have a meeting with Cllr Britcliffe in a week or so's time and the parks dept are invited. We were told many months ago that, should the bid fail, the council would immediately put money into essential maintenance i.e. paths. At this stage and until we meet with them we don't know exactly what that will entail."
Where is the Council going to get the funds from to repair the paths, a parks budget that has been held back. :confused:

Neil 26-01-2009 13:27

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Some work has already been carried out in the park to repair the paths around the bowling green as reported on the Friends of Rhyddings Park website, which it would appear he local papers read ;)

park381 26-01-2009 13:43

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 672563)
Some work has already been carried out in the park to repair the paths around the bowling green as reported on the Friends of Rhyddings Park website, which it would appear he local papers read ;)

Thank you for that neil, I have had a look at your website,"Path Repairs - January 2009 - work starts today on repairing paths" the date 26th January 2009, so I assume from that the work has started today. So it may appear in Tuesdays LET, since I have Mondays LET.
Think someone needs to spell check the web page "Jannuary" :rolleyes:

Neil 26-01-2009 14:20

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They started last week and the error was mine from this morning when I changed it in a rush. Thank you for pointing out the error, it has been corrected.

park381 26-01-2009 14:27

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 672572)
They started last week and the error was mine from this morning when I changed it in a rush. Thank you for pointing out the error, it has been corrected.

No problem neil. Got to be good if the paths are a last being repaired, I would be interested where HBC have found the money from, or has it come from the Area Councils budget ?

flashy 26-01-2009 14:42

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i hope the paths at Milnshaw Park will be repaired soon too (sorry for the slight wander)


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