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Re: Joseph Briggs, of Milnshaw Lane, Accrington
Hi, to Tealeaf, now now, whats going on here? I never mentioned Albert Hoyle, so how the hecky thump do you know that ....Hi to Weary Tourist, thanks for the info. re Ellis Island. I will certainly look at that. No, not related, but answered an ad. in Accrington Observer many years ago from two Canadian ladies who wanted to pursue their Accrington roots. From then on, things just "fell at my feet" in connection with the Briggs "saga".
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Re: Joseph Briggs, of Milnshaw Lane, Accrington
Hi Atarah....Albert Hoyle gets a mention on Post no 4 on this thread (Weary's post)..he marries into the family.
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Re: Joseph Briggs, of Milnshaw Lane, Accrington
Tealeaf, cant find my details yet, but ... Albert Hoyle, who was a brilliant violinist (had his own band here in Accrington as well) is actually on the back row, but next to the baby, being held by Joseph Briggs. What I find fascinating is the fact that the skills of Albert Hoyle have been passed down through the generations, one rellie in Canada is in a huge dance band over there, playing the violin and a grandchild of that same rellie is brilliant at playing, and she's only 16 - all through an Accrington man! Marvellous! In fact I believe its Albert Hoyle's violin that is still being used!
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Re: Joseph Briggs, of Milnshaw Lane, Accrington
Well, I was close....I reasoned that Hoyle would be in the photograph but I had the guy nest to Briggs as being one of his brothers - there appeared to be a family resemblance there. I made Hoyle one of the two men in middle - and I chose the right one because the lady I made out as Alice Briggs looks the right age for the piccy, given her birth date. However, the lady next to Viola appears to be around the same age...
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Re: Joseph Briggs, of Milnshaw Lane, Accrington
Albert Hoyle's family tree
1. Jacob Hoyle born abt. 1822 (Calico Printer, Abbey Street, 1851)(Breadbaker 1861 and 1871) + Alice born abt. 1823 Accrington 1.1 George Henry Hoyle born abt. 1846 (Joiner,18 Black Abbey St, 1881) + Mary Ann Rawcliffe born abt. 1844 Padiham, married 1868 (Cotton Winder, 86 Pitt Street, 1861) 1.1.1 Albert Hoyle b 1871 (Foundry Labourer 1891, Labourer at Calico Printworks 1901) (lived at 43 Union St 1881, 12 Percy Street 1901) + Alice Ann Briggs born abt. 1877 married 29.4.1896 Church 1.1.1.1 George William Hoyle born abt. 1898 1.2 Sarah E Hoyle born abt. 1850 I am definitely interested, please outline what happened to his branch. What was the band called? Where did he play? |
Re: Joseph Briggs, of Milnshaw Lane, Accrington
When Joseph Briggs visited Accrington in 1992, when Atarah met him I took a video of them together.
Just been talking to her tonight about it. |
Re: Joseph Briggs, of Milnshaw Lane, Accrington
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They had: Viola Joseph Jr (died at 1year) Helen Alice Ruth Joseph A Briggs born in 1914 |
Re: Joseph Briggs, of Milnshaw Lane, Accrington
I have recently read that the first child baptised at the new (1868) St John's Church, Accrington, was John Priestley Briggs. This lad's father, also John was brother to Joseph (Tiffany) Briggs' father, Joseph.
His mother was a Priestley. There are several Priestleys mentioned in 'Accrington men of Mark' ( but no Briggs)so maybe what brass they appear to have had came from her side. - their children went to boarding school and young John became an architect in London. It interests me that John and young Joseph ( Tiffany) displayed similar characteristics - an ability wih design and drawing. I am looking further into John's career. I don't know where the family lived in 1868, but in 1871 they were in Newark St, on the border with Church. A long way from St John's. The family had previously lived in St James St. There has been another thread recently about the Briggs family, but it appears not to be this one - or could be after several generations. |
Re: Joseph Briggs, of Milnshaw Lane, Accrington
There is Jeff/Geoff Briggs of the same family ( Tiffany) who lives on Owen St and goes to Accy Stanley.I think he is the 3x great grandson.
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Re: Joseph Briggs, of Milnshaw Lane, Accrington
I have just spoken to him -Ramsbottom St, not Owen-. Yes, he is from the Tiffany line but isn't specially interested in family history. However, my call was not wasted, as I learned that he attended the Grammar School, so I got him onto the Old Boys register. He told me of a cousin who is also an AGSOB, so that's another recruit. Thanks Greeny.
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Re: Joseph Briggs, of Milnshaw Lane, Accrington
Sorry for incorrect address , but glad it was of help.
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Re: Joseph Briggs, of Milnshaw Lane, Accrington
Some research on John Priestley Briggs reveals that after leaving Clitheroe RGS he went to Cheltenham College. There followed periods being articled to famous architects John Henry Middleton & Frank Matcham. He became a fellow of the Royal Institutre of British Architects in 1905 and took up private practice in 1906. For much of his career he worked on theatres, probably influenced by Matcham, recognised as the finest architect in that field. He gets a page or so in 'London at the Opening of the 20th Century' by Pike, but perhaps that indicates that he paid to be included.
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Re: Joseph Briggs, of Milnshaw Lane, Accrington
Atarah time has passed since this post. . .does the diary mention anything about Elzabeth and her family or even of her daily activities. She is a cousin very much loved by Great Grandmother whom she was named after. . .
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Re: Joseph Briggs, of Milnshaw Lane, Accrington
Gosh, lovely that this thread has been "awakened". To be honest, havent a clue where all my Tiffany Briggs stuff is, but will have a search. The photocopied diary should be amongst it all.
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Re: Joseph Briggs, of Milnshaw Lane, Accrington
Atarah. When they did a TV Antiques programe at Howarth Art Gallery featuring the Tiffany ware, they were somewhat surprised to find that little old ladies were turning up in their droves with wonderful examples. I found it very funny, for he must have had rather a lot of lady friends. Frank
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