Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

If this is supposed to be a hall of fame, then why not...

HUNCOAT HALL.

Well, it is a Hall, n'est pas, and it's er, famous (locally).
It therefore qualifies on at least two counts.


If that was not enough for inclusion on this thread, then there is more...

BIRTWISTLE FAMILY
Off Burnley Road is Huncoat Hall of late medieval origin, this was the home of the Birtwistle family of Huncoat, the first of which was William of Birtwistle who was born in 1275 and died in 1330.

Birtwistle family Tree is shown here :-
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com...DT23-0001.html

According to 'This is Lancashire' website...
The name Birtwistle runs like a thick thread through the historical tapestry of East Lancashire's now virtually-vanished cotton industry.

The website charts the progress made in Blackburn of one of the Huncoat Birtwistle descendant's
Reaching its peak in the early 1930s, the empire built by Blackburn-born William Birtwistle extended to 17 mills in his home town, Preston, Darwen, Great Harwood and Abbey Village, and in addition to that vast number of looms it also included 350,000 spindles.
Though it lasted 150 years from when its foundations were laid by his grandfather, nothing now remains of that giant industrial realm -- one that employed 9,000 people and enabled the head of the William Birtwistle Allied Mills Group to acquire huge mansions and own giant steam yachts.

AFTER THE BIRTWISTLES
Huncoat Hall was in the possession of Mr. Foot in 1825, but later acquired by the Towneleys, of Towneley Hall, Burnley, and in 1839 was in the occupation of Henry Sudall. Later the Hall was occupied by the Haworth family for many years. The last of the male line of the Towneleys left two daughters who married Lord O'Hagan and Lord Abingdon. When the estates were divided Huncoat Hall estate passed into the possession of Lord Abingdon, who sold it to Mr. James Crook, the present owner and occupier, a member of the last Huncoat Parish Council previous to amalgamation with Accrington in April, 1929.

Anbody know anything about Birtwistle's Ice Creams ?

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

I thought it was Birtwell's Ice Cream van that use to come round!

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

No, wasn't that Tricketts from Feilding Lane?

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

The Proctor family worked Huncoat Hall in WWII, and after.
Is there any threads on them?

Any family information on the Jacksons from High Riley Farm?

While on farms and farmers, 'Hillock Farm', at the bottom of the Coppice.
We used to sledge in a field below, closer to Accy Stanley.

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

Talking of Huncoat, would anyone know where I might find a copy of HUNCOAT REMEMBERED The recollections of John Smith.
I think it was published in 1985 by the Hyndburn Local History Society.

I can't seem to find a copy anywhere.

TIA,

Barnsie
Australia

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

i worked for walter proctor during the 60s bottleing milk he delivered milk around huncoat within grove ect did not know it was that old it was a farm then

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

My landlord is called Jackson, and still lives at High Riley.

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

i have in my possesion a prayer book owned by
a Sarah ann Dewhurst of huncoat hall
dated july1st 1900
the book was previously owned by a Sarah ann Pilkington
dated 1874 thi could be the maiden name of the above
any help to anyone ??

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

checked a bit for you Beechy, looks like Sarah Ann Pilkington married Lawrence Dewhurst in 1880 at St James Church Kirk. They had moved to Huncoat Cottage by 1881 which is/was next to Huncoat Hall, Lawrence as a farm labourer. Lawrence was born in Padiham and Sarah born Dukinfield Cheshire, they still lived in the cottage in 1901 but had no children that I could find. Not much of a tale but that,s all I could come up with.

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

I know I'm {a lot ** late, but you know........:egged:
I used to stay at the farm when my Aunty Glady's [ ne Proctor] lived there.
She then moved down the lane a bit and lived in [one] of the cottages. What has happenrd to 'Plantation Mill'

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

Hi
I am a direct descendent of Oliver Birtwistle who resided at Huncoat Hall.
I would love to buy the property and get the ancestral home back in the name of Birtwistle
Who lives there currently and does anyone have any photos.

On the other point yes Harrisons music is unique and an aquired taste.
It has made him a lot of money.

Best Wishes

Paul B [Paul Birtwistle]

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

no that was birtwells ice cream of hucoat the best ice cream around

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

Late comer
Laura Jackson would you please contact me
Remembering the Jacksons at High Riley
Lance

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

Plantation Mill was derelict back in the 1930's.
Retlaw.

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

I am researching my family tree and my mother's sister, Gladys, married Albert Birtwell in 1928.....but not sure which Albert Birtwell...on the 1911 census there are two Birtwell families, one at 54 Spencer Street and one at 8 Orange Street both have sons called Albert...one age 4 and one age 6. .... any more info would be gratefully received...:)

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

P.M.sent.....:)

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

Hello, I am new and looking for more information on my family tree and came across this post. My grandfather is Robert Colin Birtwell son to Albert Birtwell who owned the Birtwell's Ice Cream van, and his father was Ambrose Birtwell. If anybody has any pictures or stories or anything I would be so grateful.

Thankyou

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

My Great grandparents were Birtwistles and we have traced our family back to Huncoat Hall in the 1100's. I thought we would get a couple of generations back but never thought we would get back so far and be linked to Huncoat as my family are from liverpool.

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

Grief! How on earth do you research back to the 1100's? I have only got back as far as the 1780's and early 1800's and thats far enough for me! I have only done that by looking at the 1841 census and working back with people's ages at that time.

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

Hi June (Atarah).... We paid to get our family tree done professionally. You can only go back to the 1500's as a commoner. If anything exists previous to that then it is nobility so will be polishing my tiara and greeting my people with a quaint wave as i drive past.
Phillipa x

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

Did any member of the family have Hindle as her maiden name ?

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

My Great Grandfather had Hindle in his name as a middle name cant remember why though... it all linked up.
Would have to go back and look at my info to check x

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

Just remember HINDLE is a dead common name, so could be hard to trace. Oops, maybe I should use the word "popular name" - here in Lancashire . I was a Hindle before I got married.

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

I once went with a pal to the farm in the late 50s or early 60s . His dad was Harry Hindle , and I'm sure Mrs Birtwell was his sister .

They lived across back from us up Fern Gore . When Mr Birtwell came our way with the ice cream he always stayed at Harry Hindle's for a while .

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

We got back by going through the name hindle.... suppose its easier for someone who does it professionally x

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

For Bamboo Susan who is looking for info on the Birtwistles:

Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: User Home Page Outline Descendant Tree: Descendents of Ralph De Birdtwisell. 1160. 24/2/00

See post no 1 on this thread as well.

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

I well remember Birtwell's ice cream and the horse drawn cart. The ice cream was a yellow colour and was very creamy in taste. I seem to remember that they rang a large hand bell to get our attention. A good friend of mine was Michael Birtwell who lived with his parent's in Broadfield Road Fern Gore Accrington, and was related to the Birtwell's of huncoat. Michael unfortunately died young at 50 about 11years ago. Regards, Mike Rotheram:dummy2::dummy2:

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

Nor so quick, but I do live in South Africa.
Could you contact me at <[email protected]>
There is a possibility we may related, in a round about way.
Cheers
Lance Travis

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

Wow that's a lot to take in. I'll have to check if there are any unclaimed inheritance for me haha. But seriously this is incredible. I only got as far as 1800 on geaneology but thanks to you a may be able to extend my family tree so much further.
Thank you
Michael Birtwistle

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

Sarah Ann Pilkington and Lawrence Dewhurst were living at 'do Cottage' on the 1881 Census where 'do' means ditto and translates to 'Huncoat Hall Cottage' as it corresponds to the previous entry for Thomas Haworth 42yrs (farmer of 123 acres) 'Huncoat Hall'


Lawrence 28yrs was born Padiham and Sarah Ann 28yrs was born Dukenfield, Cheshire. They were married at St James Church Kirk 1880. Hope that helps.


Huncoat Hall is associated with the Birtwistles but tended to have multiple occupancy by various families on subsequent Census years.


Back in the day the White Lion Inn at Huncoat would be the site where the sale of Huncoat Hall, Griffin's Head and other local properties took place.
Regards

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

hello. My 4th great grandmother was Betty Pilkington 1778-1829. She married John Sudall and family sources say their son Robert Sudall 1817 was born at Huncoat Hall. We have no information on the Pilkington’s. I just wondering if you have anymore information on the Pilkington family and maybe our Pilkington relatives are related. Thank you

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

I am just getting re-acquainted with the Accy.Web and just noticed your post. So I am a little late in replying.
Birtwell Ice Cream mid-Late 50's: The horse and cart used to stand in the back running down to the main road from Melbourne Street. A whistle was blown and as kids we used to run out from our joint back yard to purchase our ice cream 4d or 6d I think. We were always asked if we wanted blood (Raspberry sauce) Sometimes the horse would set off without warning as the ice cream was being handed over. I don't know the name of which Birtwell, it was probably Ambrose, but he certainly had a gruff voice yelling at the horse to stand. But very often we ended up chasing the cart down the back, laughing all the way to get our ice cream.Happy Memories.

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

I have lived in the village since 1954, you are right about the horse and ice cream cart but it was Albert Birtwell, the owner of Hillhouse Farm who made and sold the ice cream;I sometimes used to help(or was it hinder) Albert to harness the horses to the carts; Dolly and Jewel were two of the three horses he had.I cannot remember the name of the third; when I was maybe 12 or 13 years old I once rode one bearback whilst leading another to the blacksmith in Haslingdon to have them reshod then rode them back again over the moors back to Huncoat, Albert also taught me to drive before I reached my teens on his little grey Ferguson T-E-20-1953 Tractor.
As you rightly say, "Happy Memories.
Regards Taddy.

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

I have just remembered,Albert and his wife Emmer,(not sure if thats spelt right), moved from Rake Head Farm on the Coppice to Hillhouse probably in the late forties or early fifties.
Rake head Farm is no longer there it was situated where the new cutting was made for the A56, Highway in the sky.
I think Emm could have been Alberts second wife but not sure.

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

For Emmer read Emma,sorry. As far as I can recall, Albert and Emma had four children,Colin who went to New Zealand, (I think), Marion, Stephen and Ian.
Ian and his wife still live at Hillhouse, Stephen or (Steven), died recently. I hope this is of some help.
Regards Taddy

Re: Huncoat Hall - (Birtwistle)
 

Birtwells Ice cream, the colour of butter....they used to come around with the horse and cart
On a Sunday afternoon.....out we would go for the cornets, the sandwiches(made in a silver coloured contraption on a handle) Some people would bring out fancy glass dishes so that the family could dig in.
Oh, it was nectar of the gods.
This ice cream spoilt me for the rest of my life...because no ice cream could come up to that delicious frozen ambrosia (no Taddy...not the rice pudding, but the food of the gods).
I hardly ever eat ice cream now.