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MargaretR 25-07-2013 17:26

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The emphasis seems to be on stopping people viewing porn, when they should be spending resources on preventing the production of photos and films depicting abuse of children.

Stop the abusers and those who photograph it and there won't be anything to watch.

I know it is unrealistic to expect that the problem can be totally eradicated from society, but from what I have learned about child abuse since the Saville scandal broke, the law enforcers are being prevented from pursuing some sections of society who are abusers, on the the grounds of political expediency eg Ministers, MPs, judges.

They have thrown you the minnows - celebs and some priests, and tell you - 'no stone will remain unturned', when there are boulders that are being buried.

cashman 25-07-2013 18:27

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1068405)
The emphasis seems to be on stopping people viewing porn, when they should be spending resources on preventing the production of photos and films depicting abuse of children.

Stop the abusers and those who photograph it and there won't be anything to watch.

I know it is unrealistic to expect that the problem can be totally eradicated from society, but from what I have learned about child abuse since the Saville scandal broke, the law enforcers are being prevented from pursuing some sections of society who are abusers, on the the grounds of political expediency eg Ministers, MPs, judges.

They have thrown you the minnows - celebs and some priests, and tell you - 'no stone will remain unturned', when there are boulders that are being buried.

This to me is the wisest observation on the thread.;)

gpick24 25-07-2013 18:52

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This isn`t trying to stop adults watching child porn, although search engines will have to block illegal content, the isp customer will be blocked from watching regular porn, that is, consenting adults doing what adults do. The new filters are to stop children seeing it.

Guinness 25-07-2013 19:50

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Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1068417)
This isn`t trying to stop adults watching child porn, although search engines will have to block illegal content, the isp customer will be blocked from watching regular porn, that is, consenting adults doing what adults do. The new filters are to stop children seeing it.

Stuff and nonsense my friend. :)

The playground will be full of exploits and loopholes to override the filters. What it will cause, is ordinary people who want to look at the 'blue hahn cock' plinth in trafalgar square to be forced to opt-in and thus allow big brother to know that you are an opt-in and therefore a potential problem.

'M'lud, this man is an opt-in, what does that tell you of his character?'

gpick24 25-07-2013 20:01

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Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1068423)
Stuff and nonsense my friend. :)

The playground will be full of exploits and loopholes to override the filters.

Not saying it will work, it has already been mentioned how the determined will still be able to watch. But maybe it will stop the not so determined, just the curious who do a search, get stopped by the filters, then go back to the underwear section of their mums Littlewoods catalogue.:D

Guinness 25-07-2013 21:38

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Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1068426)
Not saying it will work, it has already been mentioned how the determined will still be able to watch. But maybe it will stop the not so determined, just the curious who do a search, get stopped by the filters, then go back to the underwear section of their mums Littlewoods catalogue.:D

Going round in circles..everyone seems to agree it won't stop the kids...so just who will it stop?

Answer..No-one....which 5 pages ago Less was saying in his original post

MargaretR 25-07-2013 21:46

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Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1068443)
Going round in circles..everyone seems to agree it won't stop the kids...so just who will it stop?

Answer..No-one....which 5 pages ago Less was saying in his original post

It is just a red herring diversion to con you into thinking the problem is being tackled - they daren't!

gpick24 25-07-2013 21:57

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Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1068443)
Going round in circles..everyone seems to agree it won't stop the kids...so just who will it stop?

Answer..No-one....which 5 pages ago Less was saying in his original post

And as I said in post #43, we will only find out how well it works when it is implemented. Just because it doesn`t stop it 100%, does that mean it should be scrapped. Should we just let kids smoke and drink, just because some of them get fake ID`s or some shops don`t care who they sell to. Even this forum has a section restricted to over 18`s, should that be scrapped too ( I hope so, cos I can`t get into it ).:)

cashman 25-07-2013 22:08

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Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1068450)
And as I said in post #43, we will only find out how well it works when it is implemented. Just because it doesn`t stop it 100%, does that mean it should be scrapped. Should we just let kids smoke and drink, just because some of them get fake ID`s or some shops don`t care who they sell to. Even this forum has a section restricted to over 18`s, should that be scrapped too ( I hope so, cos I can`t get into it ).:)

Pop into the watering hole one sat lunch n introduce yerself, then they can see yer oer 18 n yeh gain entry, not that its really worth it, but popping in the watering hole makes up fer that.:D;)

gpick24 25-07-2013 22:18

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1068455)
Pop into the watering hole one sat lunch n introduce yerself, then they can see yer oer 18 n yeh gain entry, not that its really worth it, but popping in the watering hole makes up fer that.:D;)

With my youthful looks, they probably won`t believe me.:D

accyman 25-07-2013 22:43

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our government and especially usa government is more concerned about protecting copyright of multi mllion pound/dollar companies and spends a great deal more protecting them than they do children.

last year the usa practically invaded other countries in a cyber fashion shutting down websites hoste din other countries witout even consulting the countries they were cyber attacking yet struggle to shut down servers hosting pedo sites in tehri own country

gpick24 25-07-2013 22:49

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Not saying this should be done instead shutting down child porn, but in conjunction with. Stop kids watching porn, stop anyone and everyone watching child porn.

cashman 26-07-2013 06:23

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The simple answer would be to severely clamp down on those who make it,and distribute it, but they never will. i mean cmon they make snuff movies, bestiality, child rape, n allsorts of devious crap,too many top people like it, to ever act on it.:rolleyes:

Restless 27-07-2013 14:29

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1068455)
Pop into the watering hole one sat lunch n introduce yerself, then they can see yer oer 18 n yeh gain entry, not that its really worth it, but popping in the watering hole makes up fer that.:D;)

Lunch? How long u guys there ?

cashman 27-07-2013 14:50

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1068659)
Lunch? How long u guys there ?

Usually between 12-00 n 2-00 ish.:) Though i aint been down today due to foot injury.:eek:


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