Turkey Red Dye Works Accrington
 

CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHERE IN ACCRINGTON WAS TURKEY RED DYE WORKS. IAM LOOKING FOR MY FAMILY HISTORY. MANY OF MY RELATIVES WORKED AT TURKEY RED DYE FROM 1880 - 1895.

I AM VISITING SOON, could anyone help me ?
Thanks

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Hello Adlersparker, Welcome to the site, I hope you stay awhile…….I don’t have a clue where the Turkey Red Dye Works was although I have no doubt that someone will so I won’t confuse matters by making suggestions. Are you happy to tell us your family name?

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This might help but I don’t know wear the mill or works was but Messer’s F. Steiner & Co Ltd, dyers and calico printers at Church was a Turkey Red Dye producer.

You might find this of interest as well.

http://homepages.tesco.net/~fiona.j.hall/1851data.htm

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If you PM me with your Email address not only will I tell you the location but will let you have an aerial photo of the works.

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turkey red dye works was in baxenden , some of the site is still there

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Really? What was the exact location please Bob?

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And there’s more………………..The following photos are of FSteiners', at Church Bank and two of the fire of 1906 at Foxhill bank. If you haven’t already found them the photographs can be found on the Cotton Town site.



First Photo = Church Bank Mill.



http://www.cottontown.org/page.cfm?pageid=257

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MY dad worked there, (befor it was nocked down) Can remember all the site , its a scrap yard now.......

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Are you absolutely sure that the present scapyard is on the site of the Dye works ?

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Come on guys, somebody tell me where it was.

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Hi John, I’ve not found anything out about Turkey red dyeing in Baxenden. All I could come up with is this peace on the Harley Street Mill’


Harley Street Mill

“Extensive factory settlement on north bank of River Blakewater, established by William Feilden, William . Townley and William Throp. Feilden, a successful calico manufacturer and merchant, had been associated with Sir Richard Arkwright. First spinning mill erected 1823-24, second in 1824. Weaving sheds added 1828 and 1832. Five beam engines in 1833. About 500 employees by 1847. A large settlement of back to back houses was built in Leyland and Harley Streets, and on George Street West. The firm became Sir Win. Feilden & Co., c1844, later Feilden & Jackson. R. R. Jackson, a nephew of Feilden, took over completely in 1861. In 1848 Phoenix Mill and Foundry were acquired and during the 1850's large additions, on the site of Harley Street, were made to the weaving sheds. 70,000 spindles, 1365 looms and 1400 employees in 1861. A small part of the mill was leased to the unsuccessful Blackburn Industrial Cotton Spinning & Manufacturing Co. Ltd., 1860-64. Further extensions in the late 1860's increased spindles to 89,000 and looms to 1555. R. R. Jackson & Co. Ltd., formed 1878. 35,720 ring spindles installed 1881 - the largest total placed in a local mill during the 19th century. In 1884, probably for financial reasons R. R. Jackson & Co. Ltd., ceased trading. The two spinning mills were completely demolished. Plant sold included a pair of horizontal engines, 22" + 38", and a large beam engine compounded with a high pressure horizontal. Jackson leased Phoenix Mill, and the surviving sheds at Harley Street as separate units. Harley Street Mill - A weaving shed of 547 looms, sited to the north of Phoenix Mill. Leased to James Livesey 1884-1914, Harley St. Mill Co. Ltd., 1914-24. The mill was taken over by the Industrial Manufacturing Co. Ltd., of Baxenden but weaving was very limited thereafter. Completely closed by 1930".

Content reproduced with the kind permission of Mike Rothwell

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Location -- On the right hand side between Alliance St and Hollands Pies.

Various firms had occupied the site since about 1790 and in 1864 the works were taken over by the Baxenden Turkey Red Dyeing Co. Following failure in 1878 the dyeworks wes taken over by the works manager, Mr Kearns. Over 200 were employed in 1888. Eventually became Kearns Allan & Co.Ltd.

Alliance St is in the "dip" in the road and went down to Alliance Mill which closed in 1962 and was demolished after the 1964 flooding.

Haven`t got the Copyright of the photo but will Email it to anyone interested. It is already on its way to you John.

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Thats excellent work Owd Bert. I would mind seeing the photo myself?

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Turkey Red was in Baxenden. I have touched on it in my forthcoming book entitled- Baxenden, Rising Bridge and Stonefold.

For further details please visit www.lancashirebooks.co.uk

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I would like to thank everyone for all the help on Turkey Red dye works, it has all been a great help.

Thanks Wendy

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Please check your PM -- I did use the Email address you gave me ( have carefully checked this ) but the message has bounced back.

I need an Email address if anyone else wants the photo -- Doug--note previous posting.

Finally, I am waiting for a reply frpm Apest1 -- I think the scrapyard is on the site of the old Alliance Mill.

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Just a small note, my 2nd great grand uncle Henry Barnes, was a partner in the Turkey Red Dye Works in Baxenden during the 1880s till his death in 1891. He mentions his shares being passed on to his partners Kearns and Allen in his Will. Just a little bit of local trivia.

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A brief history of Madder (Turkey) red, and Accrington's Frederick Steiner's (1787 - 1869) involvement of it successfully being manufactured in England.

Madder Red-A Revolutionary Colour by Anthony S. Travis

Great Britain and her world, 1750 ... - Google Books

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Turkey red dye and the process involved was not solely a Baxenden product, nor wasit the first.
Steiner and Gatty were involved in it, Steiner holding a patent and producing it at his Church Turkey Red Dyeworks. They were in partnership on Hag Lane ( now Hyndburn Rd) also. This was in the early to mid 1800s. Gatty patented a khaki dye process.

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So wonder why Turkey Street in Accrington is so called? As far as I know, it is NOT near a dye works (unless you think of Plantation Mill).

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There was a Madder works near where Accy ambulance station is. The ambulance station was actually built on the site of a small lodge associated with the mill.

Retlaw.

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Before Wesley Chapel was built in Spring |gardens/Abbey Street, the members met in a room called The madder Room which was owned by the Hargreaves of Broad Oak works which was in Grange Lane behind where the chapel was built. Madder is a natural product, perhaps a leaf or stem of a plant ,which is used for the juice, a dye, which is extracted from it.

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'1851 Michaelmas Term. The Queen v Frederick Steiner, turkey red dyer of Hyndburn cottage, near Accrington, Lancastershire. Information (on quo warranto) letters patent granted for an invention for 'a new manufacture of a certain colouring matter commonly called garancine'. Case in the Court of Kings Bench.'
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The rather complicated procedure of producing Turkey red, including the 'old Steiner' way, can be found on the following link, starting at page 106.


Full text of "The methods of textile chemistry;"

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Is garinda made from garancine?

Perhaps Turkey St is so called for the same reason that Persia St and those near to it near Antley are so called - Steiner traded there. However, Peel, who owned the land that Turkey St is on, didn't usually do this. He may have wanted to delight the Turkish ambassador. He may have chosen the name on Xmas Day.When I can find my Shurmer's Guide I will have alook for another explanation.

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Chosen the name on Xmas Day. Haha, very funny! :)