Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Hello

I am hoping someone from this website may be able to help me with my family history research.

I am tracing back along my fathers line and have got as far as the birth of Jacob Hargreaves in 1812 in Accrington. This information came from a census search and his birth certificate is not available because records only began in 1837.

I would like to try and find out who his parents were. For this I would need to either visit the church in the area he was born to search through parish records (however, I don't know which church this would be) or possibly visit a local Family History centre where they may have a copy of all the churches parish records, is there a centre such as this in Accrington?

Perhaps someone else has a link to this relative in their Family Tree?

I hope someone can help.

Many thanks,

Wendy

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

PS - if it helps to locate the church, I have the following further information from the census results:

Registration District:
Haslingden

Civil Parish:
New Accrington

Address:
Bank Street, New Accrington, Accrington

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

There are many named Hargreaves in this area.
If you publish more info from the census address you found him at, it might help someone identify which of the many Hargreaves families he belonged to.

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Thanks Margaret.

Here goes:

Jacob Hargreaves married Mary Robinson 1834 in Clitheroe
Children: Benjamin, William R, Mary A

William Robert Hargreaves (born Liverpool 1849) married Sarah Jane Nightingale
Children: William Robert, Henry Edward, Martha A, Millicent, Benjamin, Jacob, Ada, Alice, Fred, Patience and Florence

Lots more info if needed!

Thanks,

Wendy

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

The Benjamin Hargreaves referred to is NOT the industrialist/town benefactor as he was born 1806. Even as far back as 1812, Bank St would not be a home for wealthy people.

There is such a family histsory centre as you seek,. It is in Ossie but only for the use of members of the Lancashire Family History Society . Look at their website. I suggest you join, even if for one year only. One of the committee of the Hyndburn branch, which meets in the library, is Kath Hargreaves. She is a whiz with family searching. I suspect there may be other members with Hargreaves' in their tree.

A MUST is to visit Accrington Library. Ask for John or Kath as they have the best knowledge of what is available.

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Thanks for your helps, that's great. I will try and contact Kath Hargreaves.

Most of my ancestors were quite poor with many working in the cotton mills, so what you say does not surprise me!

In the meantime, if anyone else has any connections to Hargreaves, do please let me know.

Wendy

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Vising the Churches will not work, none of them now have registers of that eara. Jack Broderick transcribed a lot of them copies of which are held in Accy Library.
I indexed most of them up to 1800, the Altham ones to 1837, Church Kirk to 1800, and St James's to 1812.
There were only 3 Hargreaves's baptised at St James's in 1812, two were called John & the other was Henry.
That leaves you with Church Kirk, I think Accy library is your best bet.
There is another possibility reading the posts again, the address Bank St is mentioned, possibility, they could have attended the Swedenborgs on Abbey St before they built the New Jerusalem. Have'nt a clue where their records are.

Retlaw.

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Thanks for that info, I think I have the census results for that year, I will check. Its certainly worth a search at Christ Church, which I didn’t even know existed because I am don’t live in the area! So many thanks for that.

Wendy

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Its no good going to Christ Church, it didn't start operating till 1841, very few churches hold any of their old records now, most of them are at the P-R-O in Preston.
Retlaw.

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Thanks, I shall visit the library.

I think I will plan my visit carefully. Are there any of the old houses left on Bank Street? Would be nice to take a look.

Wendy

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Most of the buildings are now shops in the bit from Little Blackburn Rd to Warner St, most of the remaining part of Bank St, to Black Abbey St has gone.
Retlaw.

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Have you tried using rootschat.com - the lancashire forum section - very often other people can try and help you. I assume your birth records came from the Lancashire parish records online website ?? This is also invaluable. If you cant trace your 'jacob' - can you get clues from any of his siblings ? There is also the family search website which is useful.
regards
Maria m

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Hi Wendy
Can you tell me how you proved back to Jacob Hargreaves and Mary Robinson in Clitheroe.

Three Children Benjamin, William Robert and Mary Alice were all born in Accrington but the mothers maiden name was Roberts and as she came from Liverpool you could have a look a the marriage between Jacob Hargreaves and Mary Roberts which took place in Toxteth Liverpool in 1840.
Have you purchased any birth certificates or have you just done this research via the internet and census details.

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Wow thanks thats really interesting since William Hargreaves's middle name is Roberts and I thought it was a misspelling! I cannot remember how I got to Mary Robinson, I think it might have been through internet searches, where did your information (which sounds correct to me) come from?

Wendy

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Hi Wendy
You need to start using a couple of sites that although not complete are worth keeping your eye on.

The Lancashire BMD site is where the births were recorded including the mothers maiden name and that is where I looked in the first instance.

Lancashire Births Marriages & Deaths Indexes

Just remember if you are looking for Accrington or the Haslingden Registration District use the Hyndburn Link on the site.

Another site which is going to be amazing once finished is
Lancashire OnLine Parish Clerk Project -

but both these sites rely on volunteers so patience is a virtue you will have to keep.

I also checked out on the census Jacob and Mary in Clitheroe and they had 4 children by 1841 so I didn't think it was the same couple.

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Thanks so much that's really helpful.

I did a quick search on familysearch.org and came up with a baptism for Jacobus Hargreaves in Haslingden in 1811 - I think this must be my Jacob. The exciting thing is, it listed his parents as Johann Hargreaves and Margaritae!

So I think I may have got my next generation back.

Must try and find them on the 1841 census.

Thanks again,

Wendy

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Wendy
If you prove that Jacob Hargreaves and Mary Roberts are the parents of your William Roberts Hargreaves the by purchasing the marriage certificate from 1840 it will give you Jacob's Fathers Name which will then take you 1 generation back with real proof.

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Yes you are quite right. I must try and find out where I got Mary 'Robinson' from, although I do think Mary Roberts is correct given that one of their children was named William Roberts Hargreaves.

Wendy

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Oh dear, different information from two sources - any ideas which is more likely to be correct?

Source www.familysearch.org
Name: Jacobus Hargreaves
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 21 Jul 1811
Baptism/Christening Place: Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Birth Date: 14 Jul 1811
Birthplace: Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: Johann Hargreaves
Mother's Name: Margaritae
Project (Batch) Number: C02174-9
System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 1068835 Reference Number: item 7


Source: Lancashire Online Parish Records
Baptisms: 1 Jan 1811 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Johannes Hargreaves - Filius of Johannis Hargreaves & Margaritae
Born: 11 Nov 1810
Abode: Grain
Register: Baptisms 1809 - 1812, Page 1, Entry 1
Source: LDS Film 1068835

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Well, I have finally found how I got to Mary Robinson, the Lancashire Online Parish Records!

Marriage: 19 May 1834 St Mary Magdalene, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
Jacob Hargreaves - (X), of The Town & Chapelry of Clitheroe
Mary Robinson - (X), of The Town & Chapelry of Clitheroe
Witness: Thos Finch; John Read
Married by Banns by: J H Anderton
Register: Marriages 1828-1837, Page 107, Entry 320
Source: LDS Film 1278858

Now I have a task on my hands!

Wendy

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

There has been a discussuion on the Lancashire Family History Society's forum recenbtly about Christian names being Latinised. It does not necessarily mean they were Catholics. Another reason why you should join.Attending The Straits will help you tremendously.

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

It is possible to check just what the Lancashire Archives, formerly called the Lancashsire Record Office, hold by logging onto National Archives then selecting Lancashire.

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington
 

There are 24 Hargreaves's buried in Christ Church.
One may be yours Absolom Hargreaves 12 weeks old from Bank St Acc, buried 5 Feb 1860.
The records don't give parents, just grave owners, the grave owner was John Carsley of Bank St.
Most churches in England won't allow the Mormons access to their records. I have asked the Mormons to provide proof for some of their crap, and I'm still waiting.
Retlaw

Re: Jacob Hargreaves - born 1812, Accrington