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AccyMad

11-10-2011 08:54

Park Road, Accrington

Hi all, just wondered if anyone knows anything about the history of the land at the bottom of Park Road (opposite the entrance to the school) and whether it had any connections to Elmfield Hall when it was a military hospital in the first world war?
The reason I'm asking is that the place I work is now situated on that land & a few of us are curious as to what was built here or what the land was used for way back when.

Pudwoppa

11-10-2011 13:06

Re: Park Road, Accrington

Do you mean the land across Hyndburn road facing Hyndburn Park school (on Bowker BMW side), or the land on the same side as the school behind the LIDL?

Atarah

11-10-2011 13:08

Park Road, Accrington

Are you in that "glass" building along Hyndburn Road, the site of an old mill I believe. The area was once known as Hag(g) Road for starters

Atarah

11-10-2011 13:19

Hyndburn Road, Accrington

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I took this photo one murky morning, on my way to work, quite a few years back, so not the best of photos, but gives you an idea of the size of the mill which was once next to you.

AccyMad

11-10-2011 13:24

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Originally Posted by Pudwoppa (Post 939240)

Do you mean the land across Hyndburn road facing Hyndburn Park school (on Bowker BMW side), or the land on the same side as the school behind the LIDL?

Sorry, we are on the same side of Hyndburn Rd as the school (facing their side entrance) so yes, we are sort of behind Lidl

AccyMad

11-10-2011 13:27

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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 939243)

I took this photo one murky morning, on my way to work, quite a few years back, so not the best of photos, but gives you an idea of the size of the mill which was once next to you.

Hi, no we are not in the glass building, we're on the opposite side right at the bottom of Park Road but I remember that mill being demolished - it had looked dangerous for quite a while before they got round to it

cashman

11-10-2011 13:28

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can only remember it being waste land before those buildings accymad, though someone wi a better memory may know, wasn't my area of town when young, so someone raised around yon,should know better n me,:)

TubbyLes

11-10-2011 18:27

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The 1909 map shows it as empty land.

cashman

11-10-2011 19:19

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Originally Posted by TubbyLes (Post 939340)

The 1909 map shows it as empty land.

Cheers Tubbyless, i can never remember owt being yon.

AccyMad

12-10-2011 11:23

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Thanks everyone for the replies, it was around the time of the first world war we were interested in finding out about as a few of our staff have reported feeling a 'presence' when they have been on a sleepover shift & one or two have been convinced they have seen what they describe as a person in military attire & also someone in an old fashioned nurses uniform, this was before we knew that Elmfield Hall had once been used as a military hospital. May go & have a look in the library & see if they have any more information although it's looking like it was wasteland for quite a few years before our home was built on it - who knows, maybe one of the nurses & a soldier did a bit of courting over here? :)

Atarah

12-10-2011 13:11

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Hi, I still cant figure out where you are???? Are you near that lovely stone built unusual house with lots of chimneys? If so, that was one of the two gate houses for Hyndburn House, the fabulous mansion in that area. Also, IF you are in that area, there used to be a "walkway" from that area of town to Blackburn Road, known as either GLOVERS WALK or LOVERS WALK (think the Glover could be correct as I am sure there is a terrace on Blackburn Road called Glovers Terrace.

Bob Dobson

12-10-2011 13:22

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I too am in doubt as to where we are talking about. The nursing home is built on Nelson Square I know of no direct connection with Elmfield Hall or Gattty Park, just across the river. I think the empty land being talked about, opposite the school MIGHHT

Bob Dobson

12-10-2011 13:46

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I too am confused. The nursing home, facing Emma St, is built on what was Nelson Square. The empty land being discussed .,opposite the school, MIGHT be owned by the Corporatuion who built the school a century ago.

I have never heard of the ginnel being called Glovers Walk. It was known as Lovers' Walk and ran between very high walls from the back of ther Lodge House to a point, close by the nursing home, where the river emerged from a tunnel.

AccyMad

12-10-2011 13:52

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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 939470)

Hi, yes from the back windows of our home, we overlook that house

cashman

12-10-2011 14:52

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Dunno how yer are confused?:confused: the front of those houses are on Park Rd,facing the school,which were built on land that was waste since before W.W.1. according to the map Tubbyless checked out.:confused:

Pudwoppa

12-10-2011 19:00

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The soldier connection: I've found a photo in William Turner's book 'The Accrington Pals: A tribute to the men of Accrington and District... Who Volunteered, Fought and Died in the Great War, 1914-1918' (ISBN 1-871236-16-9) on page 7 showing recruits for the Pals Battalion. Caption reads "No.3 Platoon 'B' (District) Company, ready for 'Swedish Drill' (physical training) in front of Hyndburn Park School, September 1914."

At a glance the photo seems to show them right where the glass bmw/mini building is, but this does seem to suggest they used open ground in the area for training so maybe your spot of land was used too? Might be worth PM-ing Retlaw and asking if he has more specific info; he seems to be the man for Pals details.

Admin: am I allowed to scan and post an image from a book?

Oh, and on the subject of "feeling a presence"; in my experience, it's usually a dodgy curry ;)

TubbyLes

12-10-2011 19:43

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Work it out from Pictures

Retlaw

12-10-2011 20:56

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Originally Posted by Pudwoppa (Post 939547)

The picture on page 7 was taken in front of the school, the school building is in the back ground, Sgt Wood is kneeling in the foreground.
Several of those men in the picture, never made it farther than Carnarvon, and several of them never made it past the 1st July 1916.
As for feeling a presence, it only takes one silly beggar to feel a bit off colour, and before you know it every body claims they felt sumat, mild form of mass hysteria.
Retlaw

AccyMad

13-10-2011 06:27

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Thanks everyone, think a trip to the library is the next step - and yes, I too am a little sceptical about the 'presence' some of our staff have felt/seen especially if they've been at the wrong end of a long shift at work but I'm keeping an open mind about it and at the very least it's made for more interesting topics of conversation round the dinner table than we usually have :)

Karateman

17-02-2012 22:05

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My mum used to have a garage on the land opposite the school. In the 50's there used to be I would guess 10 garages on that land, I think behind them was the reservoir, now gone. The garages were behind the small gatehouse and went virtually all the way back to the bottom of princess st. I think the gate house was named Hyndburn cottage and in the 60's those that lived there were called Coulson.

My aunt, now 92, used to worship in the Chapel and confirmed tonight it was the Bethel.

Phil

cashman

17-02-2012 22:09

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They were called that, Viven used to come in the Big Crown.;)

esteemedjuju

18-02-2012 13:46

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Viv and Ken Coulson still live local

Gremlin

18-02-2012 19:13

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 970864)

They were called that, Viven used to come in the Big Crown.;)

and the Spread Eagle.

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