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Mary90

11-04-2012 11:08

Accrington Research

Hi everyone! Im am currently researching the local history of Accrington and there role in World War One. I need at least 100 people to fill out this very short questionnaire. There is only 6 questions and it is completley anonymous! I need a wide demographic to answer the questionnaire to produce accurate results, so please can everyone and anyone answer the questions whether you no alot or nothing about history! Thankyou, it is REALLY appreciated just follow this link....
Accrington Pals Survey

cashman

11-04-2012 11:18

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Job Done.:)

Retlaw

11-04-2012 11:44

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Originally Posted by Mary90 (Post 984285)

Who the hell are you. If you want to know about the Pals, read some of the threads on here, under World War One.
Retlaw.

Eric	11-04-2012 11:49

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 984289)

Job Done.:)

Me too ... did you lie about your age;)?

Mary90

11-04-2012 11:57

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Thankyou Very Much Cashman I really appreciate your help :) Retlaw, I am currently at university in my final year studying history and for my final year dissertation I am looking into the effects the loss of so many men from the 94th Brigade (Sheffield, Barnsley and Accrington Pals) had on their communities. I am actually from Sheffield, and was inspired by the way Accrington remember their Pals battalion in comparisson to that of Sheffields. The questionnaire is part of my research to highlight the effects of the pals in society today. I dont no why you seem to have been offended by my questionnaire? Im not in anyway questioning your knowledge, as I have not in anyway made out that I am some sort of expert on this subject? Thankyou for directing me to the threads on here, as I was unaware of them!

***Mr D***

11-04-2012 11:59

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 984298)

Who the hell are you. If you want to know about the Pals, read some of the threads on here, under World War One.
Retlaw.

I would Guess at a lady called Mary who is asking people to fill out a questionair.

Nice reply to a first post.:rolleyes:

Mary90

11-04-2012 11:59

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Thankyou Eric :)

gilbert

11-04-2012 13:42

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I have answered the questionair and am wondering why Retlaw seems so offended. The only problem I have is that someone at university is so bad at spelling and grammar.

Retlaw

11-04-2012 14:09

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 984306)

I would Guess at a lady called Mary who is asking people to fill out a questionair.

Nice reply to a first post.:rolleyes:

I get a bit het up when some body questions the Accrington Pals, there are so many, now that Bill Turners dead, that claim to be Pals experts, when all they do is parrot what Bill Turner did for Accrington, and pretend they they thought of it first.
Every thing I do, in my continuing research into the Accrington Pals, Bills name comes before mine.

Retlaw.

Jim Procter

11-04-2012 14:23

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Not a very good speller are you Mary, considering you are a Uni girl?.Questionaire filled in.

gilbert

11-04-2012 14:40

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Have you looked at the questionair Retlaw? Mary is not pretending to be an expert but simply asking for peoples opinion. We are all grateful for your hard work researching the Pals. Information you gave re. Frank and Matthew Fawcett helped me greatly with my family tree last year. Belated thanks.:o

susie123

11-04-2012 15:04

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Originally Posted by gilbert (Post 984329)

I have answered the questionair and am wondering why Retlaw seems so offended. The only problem I have is that someone at university is so bad at spelling and grammar.

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Originally Posted by Jim Procter (Post 984343)

Not a very good speller are you Mary, considering you are a Uni girl?.Questionaire filled in.

Sorry but I am known as Accyweb's resident pedant and human spellchecker.

Both of you spelt questionnaire (sic) wrong. :rolleyes:

I have filled it in for you Mary.

garinda

11-04-2012 15:22

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Filled in.

:)

Eric	11-04-2012 15:24

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 984354)

Sorry but I am known as Accyweb's resident pedant and human spellchecker.

Both of you spelt questionnaire (sic) wrong. :rolleyes:

I have filled it in for you Mary.

Tabernac':eek: And here's me a thinkin' you were the resident grumpy cow;):D

And, Mary, yr welcome. If you haven't already come across it, Arthur Marwick's "The Deluge: British Society and the First World War" is well worth a read. Also Paul Fussell's "The Great War and Modern Memory." Salut.

susie123

11-04-2012 15:33

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 984360)

Well well a new swearword. Thanks Eric!

Arthur Marwick interviewed me for a job in history of science at the OU about 25 years ago. I didn't get it but your mention prompted me to look him up and I found his obit in the Guardian, 2006.

Wynonie Harris

11-04-2012 15:42

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Done. Good luck with your research, Mary!

Mary90

11-04-2012 16:46

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 984360)

Thanks everyone for your feedback and apologies for my horrendous spelling and grammar! I have just checked what I wrote and agree with your comments:o I didn't think my grammar would be put under so much scrutiny, so I was typing as though I was on facebook! :) I have read Paul Fussell's book Eric, but I haven't read Marwick's so I will definitely take a look at it! Thank you :)

***Mr D***

11-04-2012 16:54

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 984337)

Fair comment.

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Originally Posted by Mary90 (Post 984389)

Grammar police on here.:D

Eric	11-04-2012 17:11

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Originally Posted by Mary90 (Post 984389)

Good luck to you Mary. The social history of WWl, or what happened on the home fronts, is a relatively neglected aspect of the conflict. Another point, before Susie pipes up:D: English has what has been called a "moribund subjunctive"; but certain cases still call for its use.;)

Just crossed my mind (short trip, eh) that there is a large body of war poems. Most, of course, deal with the experience at the Front; however, there may be some that deal with the home front. Sassoon's "Blighters" comes to mind. However, this is not my area of study; so, have fun ....:D

jaysay

11-04-2012 18:17

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 984390)

Fair comment.

Grammar police on here.:D

Ya I once remember somebody having a go at my selling and Grammar Mr D. the only problem was he spelt grammar wrong, Grammer, haven't seen him much lately although I'm sure he's stopped blushing now:rolleyes:

cashman

11-04-2012 18:20

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 984449)

Yer selling what?:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Wynonie Harris

11-04-2012 18:22

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 984453)

Yer selling what?:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Malapropisms and typos, ten pence a dozen. ;)

DaveinGermany

11-04-2012 19:00

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 984390)

Gramma police on here.:D

What ? they're recruiting old dears into the plod force now ? Thought they were all to busy knitting Shreddies. :D

Less	11-04-2012 19:13

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 984455)

Malapropisms and typos, ten pence a dozen. ;)

More like, type one get ten free.

Gordon Booth

11-04-2012 19:24

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Done. I tried to check something before answering and it told me off- good for you and good luck with it Mary90.

Sara	11-04-2012 19:37

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Hope you soon get your 100 responses. Good luck for the future.

davemac

11-04-2012 20:13

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done.

vecrra

12-04-2012 10:28

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Good luck Mary. Questions answered.

Bob Dobson

12-04-2012 10:37

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Mary. I apologise on behalf of Retlaw. AccringtonLibrary (upstairs) have a very big WW1 collection of books & cuttings. You could do with going in when Kath or John are on duty. About 4 years ago a student at Lancaster University did a similar study.

Retlaw

12-04-2012 10:46

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Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 984776)

Your a bit late Dobbo, know about that, I spent a couple of hours in the library with her, she sent me a copy to proof read.
I've already PM'd young Mary90, and gave her some info, I also helpd a young woman last year, who came up fom London for a few days.
Retlaw.

Mary90

12-04-2012 10:56

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Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 984776)

Hi Bob, thank you for your information. I have already been to Accrington library and gone through the files on the Pals, and read through many newspapers :) They were really lovely and helpful in the library! Unfortunatly in Sheffield they don't collect any articles on the Pals, so i had to trail through every newspaper from the 1st July 1916!

Bob Dobson

12-04-2012 20:14

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Have you tried Burnley and Chorley libraries? There are groups in those towns which are active. If you struggle to find contacts, send me a PM

Retlaw

12-04-2012 21:04

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Have you tried Burnley and Chorley libraries? There are groups in those towns which are active. If you struggle to find contacts, send me a PM

Don't involve her with that Chorley lot, the number of mistakes in the Chorley Pals books, is unbelievable, I've printed out six new pages, for Accrington Libraries copy of their book. One great blunder is attached.
His real name is Richard Ormerod L/Cpl 15173 Burnley Coy, Lewis Gunner, K.I.A. July 1st 1916, I have an original photo of him & a copy of his personal diary, also been in contact with his family.
Retlaw.

entwisi

12-04-2012 21:25

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Having seen how much work Retlaw has done I'd say ask nicely if he will spend a day with you and go through his records, he has amassed so much info its silly and admireable in the same breath.... I do have one bug bear which I did raise with him a few years ago(but like me he's a stubborn old goat! :D ) is that he's stuck in his old version of some decrepid old software which whilst it works for him and may be more efficient for him to add to makes his data old(and obsolete) before its finished.

IMHO a well presented web view of his reserch wold be a joy to behold and a superb resource for the next 200 years...

I hope that when the inevitable happens( theres nowt as sure as death and taxes!) his info is converted to a useable web form and stored in something like the British Library, IMHO that would be a better epitaph than any stone up Burnley road!

@Retlaw, please please please ensure that if no one else wants it you pass it top me and I'll promise to do my best! I dont know where my ancesters were back then( I know my dad was in Fleet Air arms in WW2 but not much further back) but I'd absolutely hate to see your research wasted.

Retlaw

12-04-2012 22:01

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 984936)

Hi Ian
I thought I had finished researching the Pals, so I contacted the publisher of William Turners Books, they told me it was unsaleable, they would need to sell 300 copies just to break even, and who would want to buy a book of over 4000 names of genealogy info on the 11th Battalion East Lancs. I have now been thinking of printing it out on a special paper that the goverment use, it goes black if some one tries to photocopy it or scan it. Thought of Web pages too, although I've made some attempt, I cant get pages to link.
Now that the 1911 Census & the Silver Badge records have come on line, I'm now back into it, and adding still more info on the Pals, it was 389 pages, but looks like it will be over 400 before long,. Then theres my Accrington Heroes file over 14000 names, nearly 900 pages.
AND WordStar may be antiquated, but it beats any of Gill Bates's crap, there are quite a few of us around the world who still use WordStar.
The Stubborn, Awkward, Cantankerous old Goat, Retlaw

Restless

13-04-2012 06:39

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I'm sure more than 300 people would buy it. Webs site sounds like it is way to go. Did you try html raw or use a program like dreamweaver.

Balbus

13-04-2012 09:48

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Sometimes books like this are financed by people paying for them in advance of publication. Can we try that? Put me down for one.

Retlaw

13-04-2012 11:47

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 984961)

I'm sure more than 300 people would buy it. Webs site sounds like it is way to go. Did you try html raw or use a program like dreamweaver.

I've had a look at programs like dreamweaver, trouble is their not in proper English, them septics have all sorts of daft words, and phrases, sometimes 3 or 4 meaning the same thing, by the time I've figured out what their up to, I've forgotton where I am, my short term memory is going to pot, I need a ready made program on the lines of Burnley in the Great War.
Then I might get some where.
Retlaw.

stetrovers

13-04-2012 20:22

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My grandad was from Accrington, but he was in the Lincolnshire Regiment, so, I assume not all Accrington Pals were from Accrington.

Retlaw

13-04-2012 21:47

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Originally Posted by stetrovers (Post 985138)

My grandad was from Accrington, but he was in the Lincolnshire Regiment, so, I assume not all Accrington Pals were from Accrington.

No but Greater Accrington, supplied the most men.
There was supposed to be a full company (250 men) from Chorley & Burnley, but both of those towns fell short af their target, Chorley had a Blackburn contingent, qute a few of those were actually from Oswaldtwistle.
By the 11-11-1918, over 560 men from Accrington alone, had served in the 11th Battalion East Lancs.
Who was your Grandad.
Retlaw.

Balbus

15-04-2012 09:42

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AngleIron

17-04-2012 15:16

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Originally Posted by Mary90 (Post 984285)

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