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Atarah 23-12-2012 14:34

Southworths Tripe Stall established in Acc 1850
 
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We now know that one of our members is descended from the well known tripe business SOUTHWORTHS, so, here is a bit of information:
In a 1984 newspaper article it states that the business, operating from premises in Croft Street, for something like 100 years, was to be pulled down to make way for the new Hyndburn Link Road, and the firm's 77yr old owner, Mr Thomas Southworth, had decided to call it a day.
The business was started by this gentlemans great grandfather, Thomas Southworth, in 1850 and the works were originally at the back of the Warners Arms in Accrington, before they moved to the Bull Bridge area of town.
There were once eight other tripe works in Accrington, in addition to Southworths.
Up to the utbreak of WWII, they had stalls on the markets at Padiham, Haslingden, Rawtenstall and Bacup, as well as here in Accrington.
Mr Southworth recalled working for his father, Mr Robert Southworth, on a part-time bases, while he was still a schoolboy of 10yrs, and he became a full time employee a few years later. He recalled the firm once had a stall on Abbey Street, when the market used to be there, but he said "that was a very long time ago". He did say they used to have a stall by the corner of the Town Hall.

I will post more info when I find it!

I have found a postcard showing what I think must be Southworths wooden hut.

Apologies for mis spelling of Tripe in the heading, but I dont know how to alter it :-(

Margaret Pilkington 23-12-2012 14:37

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Ask a mod to change it for you June.

maxthecollie 23-12-2012 14:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 1033752)
We now know that one of our members is descended from the well known tripe business SOUTHWORTHS, so, here is a bit of information:
In a 1984 newspaper article it states that the business, operating from premises in Croft Street, for something like 100 years, was to be pulled down to make way for the new Hyndburn Link Road, and the firm's 77yr old owner, Mr Thomas Southworth, had decided to call it a day.
The business was started by this gentlemans great grandfather, Thomas Southworth, in 1850 and the works were originally at the back of the Warners Arms in Accrington, before they moved to the Bull Bridge area of town.
There were once eight other tripe works in Accrington, in addition to Southworths.
Up to the utbreak of WWII, they had stalls on the markets at Padiham, Haslingden, Rawtenstall and Bacup, as well as here in Accrington.
Mr Southworth recalled working for his father, Mr Robert Southworth, on a part-time bases, while he was still a schoolboy of 10yrs, and he became a full time employee a few years later. He recalled the firm once had a stall on Abbey Street, when the market used to be there, but he said "that was a very long time ago". He did say they used to have a stall by the corner of the Town Hall.

I will post more info when I find it!

I have found a postcard showing what I think must be Southworths wooden hut.

Apologies for mis spelling of Tripe in the heading, but I dont know how to alter it :-(

The heading is alright, perhaps budgies might eat tripe.

Atarah 23-12-2012 15:11

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Our Accyweb descendant (pompeylass) probably already knows this, but here are some 1891 census details, when the family were living on Cross Street, which is just around the corner from the Warners Arms, where apparently they had a works.

1891 census for Cross Street, Accrington
SOUTHWORTH family

Thomas Southworth age 51 yrs - Tripe Dresser (born Chorley)

Ellen Southworth age 51 yrs – born Whalley

Robert Southworth age 16 yrs – Asst Tripe Dresser born Acc

Ellen Southworth age 14 yrs – Asst Tripe Dresser born Acc

Hannah Southworth age 11 yrs – Scholar born Acc

Martha Southworth age 8 yrs – Scholar born Acc

So ... it looks as though your roots are from Chorley and Whalley but I think you can claim Accrington, seeing as the family moved here around the 1850's! :-)

Retlaw 23-12-2012 15:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 1033764)
Our Accyweb descendant (pompeylass) probably already knows this, but here are some 1891 census details, when the family were living on Cross Street, which is just around the corner from the Warners Arms, where apparently they had a works.

1891 census for Cross Street, Accrington
SOUTHWORTH family

Thomas Southworth age 51 yrs - Tripe Dresser (born Chorley)

Ellen Southworth age 51 yrs – born Whalley

Robert Southworth age 16 yrs – Asst Tripe Dresser born Acc

Ellen Southworth age 14 yrs – Asst Tripe Dresser born Acc

Hannah Southworth age 11 yrs – Scholar born Acc

Martha Southworth age 8 yrs – Scholar born Acc

So ... it looks as though your roots are from Chorley and Whalley but I think you can claim Accrington, seeing as the family moved here around the 1850's! :-)

Robert enlisted in the Royal Navy served on H.M.S. Blake,
as O.S. J70995.

pompeylass 23-12-2012 16:36

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Ellen Southworth came from the Wiswell area of Whalley. My mother told me when we were going down that way once.

Bob Dobson 23-12-2012 16:58

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Confirmation of summat that I've thought for a long tme - Atarah talks tripe.

I didn't know that there was a market area in Abbey St

Good stuff Atarah.

Retlaw 23-12-2012 18:14

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Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 1033786)
Confirmation of summat that I've thought for a long tme - Atarah talks tripe.

I didn't know that there was a market area in Abbey St

Good stuff Atarah.

Ay Ek Dobbo, I thought every respectable Acc historian knew that Abbey St was the original market St in New Accrington. thats why the house numbers in Warner St & Oak St, run from top to bottom, because Abbey St was the center from where numbers started.

Retlaw 23-12-2012 18:28

Re: Southworths Tripe Stall established in Acc 1850
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 1033764)
Our Accyweb descendant (pompeylass) probably already knows this, but here are some 1891 census details, when the family were living on Cross Street, which is just around the corner from the Warners Arms, where apparently they had a works.

1891 census for Cross Street, Accrington
SOUTHWORTH family

Thomas Southworth age 51 yrs - Tripe Dresser (born Chorley)

Ellen Southworth age 51 yrs – born Whalley

Robert Southworth age 16 yrs – Asst Tripe Dresser born Acc

Ellen Southworth age 14 yrs – Asst Tripe Dresser born Acc

Hannah Southworth age 11 yrs – Scholar born Acc

Martha Southworth age 8 yrs – Scholar born Acc

So ... it looks as though your roots are from Chorley and Whalley but I think you can claim Accrington, seeing as the family moved here around the 1850's! :-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1033766)
Robert enlisted in the Royal Navy served on H.M.S. Blake,
as O.S. J70995.

Atarah. Just realised that the date on your census is 1891. The Robert Southworth in the Royal Navy in WW1 was only 18 yars of age when he enlisted, So he must be the son of the Robert in your census extract.

Mog 24-12-2012 05:30

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Wonder if the Southworths that lived on Moor Street in Clayton were any relation to these guys.

pompeylass 24-12-2012 07:32

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Hi all

I'll do my best to get the research done but it will be gradual I'm afraid. I did some of my dads side last year but did nothing on my mums, the Southworth's side, until now.

There are some of the Southworth's that moved to Clayton, but more about that later.

Bob Dobson 24-12-2012 08:46

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Of course, the possibility is that they are descended, as I am , from the Southworhs of Samlesbury. That family lived in Samlesbury Hall, and one of their number became as saint. I think this is where I get my ethos of living from - those who know me will not be surprised at learning about my saintly past. One of my family was known as Southworth the Elder, but all was not as it seamed.

cashman 24-12-2012 11:55

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Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 1033881)
those who know me will not be surprised at learning about my saintly past. One of my family was known as Southworth the Elder, but all was not as it seamed.

Aint just atarah talking tripe on here then is there.?:D

ossy kid 24-12-2012 18:55

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I think he must be talking about some udder bloke.

anzac 24-12-2012 19:32

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In one of Benita Moore's books "Lancashire Lives" she interviews Annie, Tommy and Elsie Southworth about the family and life in Accrington.

If you don't have a copy of this and would like me to send one to you PM me with your address and I will send it after Christmas.

Bob Dobson 25-12-2012 07:58

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Benita did three (?) of these 'Lancashire Lives' books in which she interviews local folk.If she were alive today, she would be ion this forum

pompeylass 27-12-2012 17:58

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Here's what I've got so far:

Thomas Southworth (1840-1899) married Ellen Hartley (1839-1915) in 1860.

Their children were:

1860 William (died 1861, age 0)
1862 Benjamin (died 1915, age 53)
1864 John Thomas (died 1928, age 65)
1865 Henry (died 1867, age 1)
1867 Elizabeth Sarah (marr. Herbert Parker 1890)
1868 James ?
1869 Harriet (died 1876, age 6)
1871 William (died 1871, age 0)
1872 William Henry (died 1884, age 11)
1874 Robert (died 1940, age 65)
1877 Ellen (marr. Charles South 1895)
1879 Hannah (marr. John Bernard Tattersall 1896)
1881 Harriet (died 1881, age 0)
1882 Martha (marr. William Henry Ainsworth 1905)
1882 Mary (died 1883, age 0)

Benjamin, John Thomas and Robert ran the business together after 1899.

That's all so far, all from my armchair, hooray for 'Lancashire BMD'

bekibird 21-06-2013 23:03

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I can't believe I missed this thread!

I married a Southworth but it looks like our branch came from Chorely. John Southworth (b. 2/10/1884) came to live in Accrington and worked for the Co-Op as a painter and decorator after serving in WW1... perhaps he may have been a cousin or some sort of relative to come to Accrington from a well established family in Chorely?

He married Esther Haworth in Accrington in 1927 and died on valentines day in 1933. His sister Jane married a policeman, Joseph Halliday, and they lived on Lion Street in Church. From the 1911 Census Joseph Halliday was living at 72a Lion street with his Mother in law Elizabeth Jane Southworth nee Statham... He must have a been a patient man!!

If I link in anywhere with your Southworth's, Pompeylass, let me know!!!

Bob Dobson 22-06-2013 08:55

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Having a widowed mother living with her son/daughter and spouse was not uncommon. It was not ideal, but often brought about by economics or poor health. My mother came to live with us for a short while, and I promised my wife that if it became necessary, her mother could come to live with us. My grandma lived with my aunt and her husband. I suspect that PC Halliday was an Accrington Borough bobby rather than a county one stationed at Church. Check the County Police possibility on the website of Lancashire Archives. It will cost you to get his record sent out.

Tesco Rambler 10-07-2013 22:51

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Not relevant but Saturday tea in the 60's was always tripe, which I always thought had a very clean fresh watery flavour, chips and fried egg, whilst on the black and white TV was Dr Who showing a clean pair of heels to the Darliks (spelling please!)

hilleluk 11-08-2013 13:00

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To those interested in tripe,
My grandfather was born in Accrington in 1899 and died in 1966 aged 66, His brother was Thomas Southworth, who owned the tripe business, Then there was my dad, Robert Southworth, who died in 2003, and then me, another Robert Southworth.

Bob Dobson 11-08-2013 13:15

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Originally Posted by hilleluk (Post 1070852)
To those interested in tripe,
My grandfather was born in Accrington in 1899 and died in 1966 aged 66, His brother was Thomas Southworth, who owned the tripe business, Then there was my dad, Robert Southworth, who died in 2003, and then me, another Robert Southworth.


Welcome on here Robert. A lot of the contributors talk tripe much of the time - particularly the elder ones, or so it seams to me. If you have any family photos which show the stall or tripe processing, please put them on her and give a copy to Accrington library

Retlaw 11-08-2013 14:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 1070855)
talk tripe much of the time - particularly the elder ones, or so it seams to me.

Tha's some room to talk Dobbo, tha comes out wi some real gob fulls o tripe most ot time, an tha one ot thelder ones.:tongueout:tongueout:tongueout


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