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Well done Hyndburn, you fluffed it again.

Went down town this morning and went to park in the usual place behind Union street, bottom half of car park all marked out with yellow boxes for disabled, they have taken 12 parking spaces away and put in 9 disabled bays, thats 3 spaces lost, yeah I know they need extra room to get out etc but guess how many cars were parked in them - NONE so to me thats 12 spaces lost
Went round the corner onto Union street (after waiting 10 mins for a parking space) and all the disabled were parked on there.

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I have been informed that to get a 'disabled badge', a person has to have a disability, restricting them to being able to walk a maximum of 50 yards, if this is true, how come the only shop within range of these bays is a D.I.Y./builders merchant type place?

Oh well, the planners must be right.

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If disabled can park on yellow lines, presumably because they cant walk far (not that I havnt seen some who would beat me in a race!), then why place disabled bays so far away? It is the same with diy stores, parking at the doors for the people you would think couldnt do diy! Then there are complaints when people with no disabilities use the spaces, which leads to using more genuinely needed spaces which leads to more complaints about disabled spaces being used by non badge holders.

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I wonder how long the jamster will take to reply to this thread? ;)

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Haha, will pretend to be working when he does neil! :D

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I'm not sure Whether HBC are responcible for this, or if it now comes under the remite of LCC. I know all road repairs are undertaken by County now whether marking out carparks with yellow lines is within their scope I'm not that sure

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That is a pet annoyance of mine. People blaming the wrong set of *censored* at the wrong Council. If we are going to insult people lets make sure it is the correct people :D:D

It's bad enough with our politicians blaming the wrong people all the time just because it serves a purpose without us doing it as well.

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Went past there today and the car park looked chocker block apart from the newly painted yellow hatched area

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They should have created a few more parent and child spaces, I have a complete nightmare getting the boys out of a car in a normal parking space (given that they are both still in car seats, which are quite high and need lifting out of them)

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Same yesterday afternoon when we went on. No one parking in them at all, and because able bodied drivers didn't know about the markings, people driving down there and having to turn round all the time, including us. :(

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Went down the other day and was gob smacked......there were 2 cars on the disabled bays..........first time I have seen them being used

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They have also done this with the little car park at the bottom of Oak St.

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This must be the only disabled parking bay in the world that isn't full of Chelsea tractors abandoned by able-bodied lazy yuppies!

Sorry, this is one of my bugbears about people who drive expensive cars.

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I thought the term Yuppies had died with the last century.

I can't say I've seen many 'young urban professionals' in Accrington, unless they now wear tracksuits, tucked into their socks.

:D

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There are enough 'posh folk' in Chelsea tractors (apparently disabled but remarkably devoid of orange badges) at Asda in Accrington. I thought this was supposed to have been clamped down on?

Chavs just don't acknowledge road markings at all. When parking it's a true case of 'two become one'.

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I never shop at supermarkets, so can't comment on the poshness of ASDA's customers.

Though you might need to stop looking for orange disabled parking badges, because they are actually blue.

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You know perfectly well what I mean :rolleyes:

Just out of interest, what word would you have used instead of 'yuppie'?

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Gary :p:D

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Selfish, though that could be applied to many drivers, not just 4 x 4 owners...of which I'm not one, incidentally.

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I don't drive any car because it's too 'expensive'.

A friend of mine has driven a car that cost £250 for the last 6 years each of his spare pennies goes to keeping it on the road to him that is 'expensive', but he is disabled and needs some form of transport.

I know other people that have vehicles varying in prices to over 50k+.

Each of those would like to upgrade to something better, but we would all find a better car 'expensive'.

If someone has a more expensive car than me, so long as they are living within their means then good luck to them, why should I be jealous?

Ah, yes your right, I probably do know, 'perfectly well what you mean', even though it is easier to understand if you actually say what you mean.

You mean, Large cars don't you?:D

Though I've no problem with gas gussling large cars and their effect on the environment while our and other Governments waste far more on tanks that they keep in uninvited Countries that do something like 8 gallons to the mile.:confused:
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Well back to the parking, they have now created another 8 reserved spaces mon-fri doesn't say who they are reserved for though, anyone got an idea who "occasionally" parks there?
Thats 20 spaces lost in that car park now

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Aliens?

:rolleyes::D

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get a job idiot

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Great post, Steve. Welcome to the forum, we need more people who get their facts right before posting....

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I drive a 4x4 hence the reply, the parking spaces in question are usEd on a regular basis by disabled drivers and guess what, some disabled people are actually capable of driving something bigger than a golf, believe it or not 4x4 vehicles are needed by some people for either work or play. You mentioned earlier you dislike 4x4 drivers, that is very specific and targeted.
I dislike inconsiderate drivers, my dislike is generally because inconsiderate drivers cause problems for many, why would one particular type of vehicle cause you a problem?
are you anti 4x4 ?

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Not at all, in fact I use one regularly in my line of work. However, I base my judgements on the evidence presented to me and specifically the evidence of my own eyes.

When I see perfectly healthy people in any car using disabled spaces because it's closer to the shop door it strikes me as being one of the most arrogant things a driver could do. The absence of a badge in the window is a giveaway too. Unfortunately, I see more high-end cars and 4x4s doing it than any other type of vehicle - maybe I'm just spotting more than you are or maybe you just don't find that at all.

The same goes for parking on double yellow lines - there are several spots in Rishton that seem to be a magnet for people in 4x4s to dump their car and make it hard work for everyone else.

Sorry if it offends you but it's a fact, certainly where I live.

And I'd like to know where I stated that I don't like 4x4 drivers. I haven't said that at all! I believe I referred to anyone in a Chelsea tractor that parked in disabled bays.

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You are lucky, having so many special powers.

Being able to spot who is unemployed, and wearing 'designer gear' etc is a gift, but even more impressive is your X-Ray sight, which allows you to judge who is, and who isn't disabled.

You should have gone to work for the N.H.S. You could have saved millions, that've been spent on scanners, and other associated medical machinery.

If only the rest of us could have the ability to unmask the frauds as being healthy, and to be able to decide who isn't really suffering because they're an amputee, have chronic heart disease, cancer, neurological diseases, terminal illness, etc.

Shooting one's mouth off without thinking what you're saying, and alienating whole swathes of people because of your prejudiced ideas, will probably result in a very unsatisfactory political career.

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Cheeky so and so, thats my job around here :mad:

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I know, the ability to open my eyes and base judgements on what I see around me is a gift indeed. Last time I heard, you needed a disabled badge on display in your car to use disabled bays but perhaps I missed that one being rescinded.

I wish I had your special power of picking up on one word and remembering to bring it up forever after as a tangible debating point. You aren't my ex-girlfriend, by any chance?

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Seeing isn't always believing.

I loath the arrogance of people who make judgements on things, based purely on the superficiality of outward appearance.

If you ever have the good fortune to meet myself, you will probably declare me the very picture of robust health.

Mind you, you'd only meet me out in public.

I tend not to go out when I shake and spasm so much between drug treatments, that I look like I'm auditioning for the Exorcist, or when I can't get out of bed for two hours to go to the loo, until the drugs for Parkinson's disease kick in every morning. I won't go on listing the indignities of living with an incurrable, degenerative, neurological illness, but you get my drift.

Yes, you're well and truly gifted...if blind arrogance is a gift.

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Higly unlikely, different leagues.

Premiership, and jumpers for goal posts.

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Is this what it boils down to? I can't disagree with anyone who's seriously ill for fear of being judgemental? If that's going to be your stance you'll the vast vestiges of respect for you evaporating very quickly. If anyone is going to toss their view into the ring it should not come with any sort of guilt clause, regardless of race or condition.

If you really do have Parkinsons Disease then you have my deepest sympathy but if you'd just read what I'm getting at you'd see that you are precisely the sort of person I'm trying to make life better for!

You mentioned blind arrogance, but when someone is trying to fight the corner for people with reduced mobility and you rail against everything they say then who's really being arrogant? I hope you never find yourself in a situation where you need a disabled bay and can't get one through the sheer thoughtlessness of people who can't be bothered parking 20 yards further away.

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'If'?

'If' I really have Parkinson's disease?

Er, one thing about me you've yet to realise, is that I don't lie. Ever.

So as well as being able to tell who's unemployed, or ill, you are unable to believe what people say.

Your gifts are looking less impressive by the minute.

How many other groups of people do you intend to offend and alienate, before you stand for election in May?

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The blind arrogance refers to you deciding who is, and who isn't disabled, based purely on how 'healthy' they look.

When pushed you before agreed with me that you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover, but you seem to be still doing it.

Appearances can be very, very, deceptive.

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G i don't think he meant that, i think we all know that he meant if they don't have a disabled badge on display, i'm a numpty and even i worked that one out x

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I'm sorry you feel I'm accusing you of lying, I just couldn't work out whether you were being serious or just trying to make a point. It wasn't meant as a dig and if you continue to take everything I say in the worst possible context I can't see any point having further discussions with you which is sad, really.

You seem to be trying to stand as the voice of the persecution complex for everyone in the borough which is a braver stance than I would ever adopt. However, as you would soon find if you had a crack at it, you can't open your mouth in public on any subject without someone thinking that one group is getting preferential treatment over another.

My view is that any section of the community that needs a particular facility to improve simple necessities in their day-to-day life should be heard out.

If you're so convinced that I'm blinkered and arrogant then I'm not going to waste any more of your time.

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I certainly don't have a 'persecution complex', and speak for no one, other than myself.

I gave other examples of people who could be classed as having disabled mobility, amputees, cancer sufferers etc, but who you might declare looked 'healthy', before I posted that I have Parkinson's. Which I would never pretended I had, just to prove a point. Mainly becuse it would be highly offensive, as well as a lie.

I'll continue not judging people, and making vast generalisations about other folk, until in possession of the full facts...and you can continue doing the opposite.

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well what the hell were you saying then?:confused:

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Garinda certainly does have Parkinsons, as most members of long standing on here know Ken, in fact only last year he was featured on Granada reports one evening, a program which had brought home to me how life destroying Parkinsons can be, especially in some one so relatively young. in fact I still have the program saved on my Sky Plus hard drive

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Since I don't know the man and haven't seen the Granada Reports item I couldn't tell whether Garinda was using Parkinsons to make a point or stating that he had the disease. Either way I can't really see how I've deliberately been offensive about his condition.

The thrust of this thread has turned towards disabled parking bays, something I am keen to see reserved for people who really need them. How much clearer do I need to be about it? If you don't have a disabled badge, don't use them and have a bit of thought for those whose lives are made much more difficult by having to park further away.

Just explain to me why that line of thinking is offensive, because I'd really like to know.

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I'm not playing the sympathy card by the way.

I very rarely drive, and have hardly ever parked in a designated disabled parking space, but when I have occasionally used my blue badge, I've been verbally abused by idiots who presume I'm not eligible because I 'look' healthy.

As stated, when at times I'm unable to put one foot in front of the other, get dressed etc, I tend not to be in the public gaze.

Don't worry though, anyone foolish enough to question if I really am ill, doesn't walk away unscathed, especially if it's a two-pronged attack, if my mother happens to be with me.

:D

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if ya couldn't tell then obviously ya suspected he could have been lying, this using of disabled spaces has been aired on here long before you arrived,which ya wouldn't be aware of unless ya did a search,theres nowt wrong wi what yer saying about the spaces being utilised,if ya cant see whats wrong wi asking a guy "IF" he has parkinsons, then yer not as bright as i gave you credit! or he's right wi "Arrogant"

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Two-pronged attack, you and your Mum, now that is a scary thought:eek::eek::eek::eek::D

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Sad ain't it?

Forty five, but I'm still the cub, and she's the killer lioness, if anyone attacks her offspring.

:D

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That'll be the day whn she starts feeding you new kill red meat:D:s_frighte

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I must be lucky, she appears to like me :D

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I know, odd that, even though I keep trying to explain what you're really like.

:D

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So you think you know what I am really like? :p:rolleyes::D

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where's Jambutty ?

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Knotty Ash Mines:D

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B****r off Jay we wouldn't want him over our way, all the Diddy Men 'd go on strike !!! & Doddy 'd have a thrommy !!! no you keep 'im :whack: :thumbsup:

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Note to self -

Always stick with your inital impression Rind.

A prat rarely changes it's prattish spots.

:rolleyes: