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I haven't been on here for that long. I found most things out by asking the lovely, friendly people on here.

:D

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Hi Tricia.

Using the normal search function instead of FAQs will throw up a multitude of threads where karma etc has been discussed. Just for you here is a quick run down of Accyweb..

Karma = a reward system bestowed by other members for a good, funny, helpful post. Karma can also be deducted so watch out..:eek:

Power = denotes how much karma a person can give to you. Your power increases the longer you are a member, the more you post and the more karma you have yourself. Power doesn't usually kick in until you have 100 posts on the forum, not including the Anything Goes section.

Ackers = Accywebs very own currency. The more you post, the more ackers you earn. You can gamble them in the Accyweb bookies or spend them in the Accyweb shops (when/if they are up and running again). You could buy different coloured user names etc with your ackers.

User names = Some of our names come up on the who has visited the site list in different colours. I'll try to get this straight :o
Thin black = member
Thick black = moderator
Thin green = member who has donated to the forum but has less than 1,000 posts
Thick green = member who has donated but has more than 1,000 posts
yellow/gold = member who won an Accyweb award (see Anything Goes section)

Donations = It is possible to make a donation to Accyweb for the upkeep and running of the site. As a reward for making a donation you receive extra perks. Underneath your User Name you will see that yours currently says 'junior member'. Mine says something different because one of the extra perks is that I can change mine whenever the fancy takes me.

I hope that I have managed to clarify a few things for you (and that I've got it right):o

If you have any more questions then jump into the Questions and Answers part of the forum and ask away...:D

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I know I can be a bit dim at times and I'm very keen on recycling but I never thought of myself as a thick green person until you pointed that out Gayle. ;)

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Anyone like to tell me why I've been brought into this?

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Cos I can't read. :o

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So then yes, thick green member is appropriate!



Sorry Willow, only joking. :D

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AccyJay says: "I found most things out by asking the lovely, friendly people on here."

Exactly - which is why I started this thread.

And my heartfelt thanks to Lettie for her very helpful post. If I could award you a karma point I would!

Some people have suggested that searching the site is the answer. As I explained in my original post, I have done that many times and not really found much that was relevant until I came across Len's post yesterday.

I still think that a clear and succinct explanation (along the lines of Lettie's post) which could be easily found in one central place would be extremely helpful, especially to newcomers and people who just don't have the time to spend doing long-winded searches.

But if the moderators disagree, who am I to talk? I know how difficult it can be to be a moderator.

Tricia :(

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no you have searched FAQ not the site search please read my pm

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You are right that I did look in FAQs first, because I thought that would be the obvious place to find what I needed. But I also did a general search of the site, as witnessed by the fact that I eventually found Len's post.

I really am not trying to be difficult. My idea was supposed to be a helpful suggestion. It would help me, and I am sure it would help other new users.

It's just that I'm having a hard time finding my way around. At your suggestion in your private mail, I just did another sample search on the topic of Karma, and came up with a list of 20 different threads (yes - complete _threads_, not just individual posts!).

Having some time to spare today, I thought I would do the job properly and tried to sift through them, but mostly all I found was simple references to people having their karma deducted or added to. Hardly anything about how the system actually works. It just proved that I was right when I said it was a time-consuming and not very rewarding exercise.

I love this site. Don’t get me wrong. But I don’t find it very user friendly.

For instance, after reading Lettie's post, I did a search of FAQs to find out how I can make a donation and, guess what? “Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.” In this case, a search of the site came up with 98 (!) threads. And the few I have dipped into were completely irrelevant to site donations.

I would have thought it would be in the best interests of everyone involved to make this facility easy to find.

I do very much enjoy this site and wish I had time to visit it more often, but I would, I am sure, enjoy it a lot more if I knew more about it.



Tricia :bangh8:

PS That's me banging my head against a brick wall, not me being angry :-(

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Perhap's you have found a place for yourself here on accyweb then Tricia, sorting through the many posts and putting them in order for the next lot of people that come on expecting everything to be done for them?

Yes, I know that's a bit harsh isn't it? But so is your criticism.
Accyweb is an ever expanding thing, but with patience (and by asking nicely), you might just get the hang of it. When they get the chance the mod's and admin' do put sticky threads on site, members as proved by lettie will also help but even if all the other sections of the site where removed and just one big sign was there saying,

For Help Press Here!

There would still be people saying it's difficult to navigate.

If when you do a search for something try wording it differently if you don't find something straight away.

But mainly I think you should stop fussing and just give us some input we'll probably all enjoy it, You have done some searching so you know there are plenty of subjects to choose from and there always seems to be room for a few more. ;)

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I can see both sides of this arguement. It would be helpful if there was a tab at the top of the page where all the information could be found.

However, i found that if i had a problem, then there was always somebody ready to help if i just asked. This made me feel welcome & a part of the Accrington Web community.

:)

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Yes, and in an ideal world there could well be such a device, but what must be remembered is that accyweb is set up and worked without making a profit so the admin' and the moderators give their time for nothing, so although you aren't the first and perhaps won't be the last to make suggestions to improve the site, they all have their own lives and livings to take care of before anything else can be done and all these things have to be prioritised to fit in with them, not to to have them jumping through a hoop just answering to the whims of others.

As you have proved yourself, if people ask, other people will willingly try to help, new ideas and improvements are discussed behind the scenes by the mod's etc. and are fitted in when and where it is convenient or needed.

The biggest help any newbie can give is to search first, if you can't find it, try different phrases or terminology after that, ask politely, but always remember you are talking to a fellow member that is here and willing to help.

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This sticky refers to donations

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/96897-post1.html

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You aren't being awkward Tricia.

I found it all very confusing when I first joined too. The search is useful, but does bring up unrelated topics and threads as well.

The best thing to do, as others have suggested, is to ask how or where you can find out the information you need. People here are always willing to help.:)

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This is what it says in my sig :
The Moderators are here to help if you have a PROBLEM or QUESTION about the site THEN please send them a PM THANKYOU

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Yes you are, and you do.:)

When I first joined I didn't know what or who the moderators were, or even what are how you pm'd, so it can still be confusing.

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I think the best thing to do is to get stuck in. Post a few times and you start getting the hang of it.

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I did. I think I waded in and made about twenty posts moments after becoming a member.:)

It still took me by suprise however, when a pop up appeared about a week later and said I had a personal message from someone called Pendy.:eek: :D

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Exactly, if you just plough into it you sort of learn it as you go along. About three weeks after joining I asked a really daft question.

I asked why my name and the name of the project-which-shall-no-longer-be-mentioned came up in red. It was pointed out to me that they only came up in red when I had put them into the search feature. Duh!

A few people politely told me what was happening and I carried on posting.

It's almost impossible to teach someone everything before you start - in any walk of life you learn things on the job.

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Less said,


“Perhaps you have found a place for yourself here on accyweb then Tricia, sorting through the many posts and putting them in order for the next lot of people that come on expecting everything to be done for them?”
Well, I thought I had, until I read your post, Less. You read far more into my statement than was intended. You must know I was doing it for my own enlightenment, not with the intention of setting others straight. I would not presume. I thought I had made it clear that I don’t expect “everything done” for me. I was just asking for a bit of help.


“Yes, I know that's a bit harsh isn't it? But so is your criticism”
Well, at least you admit it – now, that’s what I call criticism! Your remark was totally undeserved and uncalled for. All I did was make a suggestion which has been exaggerated beyond all bounds. It was certainly not meant as a criticism of the moderators, who, in my opinion, are doing a great job, as I have told them in the past (well, Roy, anyway). Thank goodness for the common sense of some other members.


“There would still be people saying it's difficult to navigate”
Maybe – but probably a lot fewer.





“If when you do a search for something try wording it differently if you don't find something straight away”
As I said before, I have done just that – on many occasions.


“accyweb is set up and worked without making a profit so the admin' and the moderators give their time for nothing, so although you aren't the first and perhaps won't be the last to make suggestions to improve the site, they all have their own lives and livings to take care of.”
That is exactly what I had in mind when, naively perhaps, I made the suggestion. I thought it would make their lives easier if people could find things out for themselves instead of pestering the mods with emails and making them repeatedly answer the same questions.
And that is why I asked the question in this forum. I was sure there must be members out there who know the answers. And Lettie proved me right.


Well, Less, thank you for the “sticky” link about donations – but it only told me more or less what I already know. Would one of you friendly people out there please tell me – where IS the PayPal button?

I am a great fan of this site. I've said it before, and I'll probably say it again. I just want to be able to make the most of the limited time I can spend visiting it, instead of wasting it in fruitless searches.

In retrospect, I could have chosen a better title. It was not meant to be belligerent.

Ever heard the phrase, “I’m sorry I asked”? If it weren’t for Lettie and a couple of others, I might wish I hadn’t. Anyway, that’s my last word on the subject. Insult away, if it pleases you.

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This can't be correct ? I am still skinny green and have over 1,000 posts and so are other people e.g. Less.

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I've been ill, all this criticism is getting to me.:D

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Katex the thick green name is if you have made a donation to the site!! :)

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Well, I have, that's why I am now green, just not thick green re. over 1,000 posts. ?

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Oooo now that's a puzzle cos I only turned the thicker green after the donation...maybe someone's forgot to upgrade you kate!! ROY.......... ;)

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Mmmm .. this Tricia could be interesting, an adversary who has finally cracked yer' exterior :D

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It is a puzzler... I'm sure that I became thicker after 1,000 posts :D ... Maybe it's changed:confused:

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lol. What a great choice of words.

:D

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well i think i prefer to stay skinny and black ...all this talk about thick and green is putting me off ....lmao

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I am already green. As I have already demonstrated, I don't know much... :)

...and also I recycle a lot.

But I want to be thick and green. (No nasty comments, please.) :rolleyes:

Will someone ple-e-e-ase tell me, where is the PayPal button?

Tricia

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Try here

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/payments.php

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Go to your user cp look down the list i think its about 4th from the bottom paid subscriptions click on this and paypal is there

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I don't have "PayPal". Is there any other way to donate?

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I think I've got it sussed!

Ignoring the yellow people ( sorry Neil - GOLD people) who are merely that colour because they won the coveted awards (best whinger, that kind of thing) there was a time when we had a shop on here and we could buy things with our ackers. One of the things we could buy was a colour for our names. I had a purple one. In fact I had it twice because I bought a purple name, that got hijacked in an upgrade round about the same time that we lost all our ackers in a bank raid and had the rest devalued due to AccyWeb inflation. I saved up again for another one, this time a slightly lighter shade as I recall.

Other people preferred to purchase thngs like a drop shadow, a reverse image and Tealeaf if I remember correctly bought a scribble so you couldn't read his name at all!!!

It looks to me like all those of us who donated to AccyWeb now have green names and those of us who had previously puchased a different colour or name variant are now the ones with thick green names.

Unless of course anyone knows differently - and it's no good asking Roy cos he hasn't a clue! :D

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Hmmmm... The only thing is with the name buying and thick green theory is that I have never bought any kind of name variation??? All my ackers were spent in the pet shops.:D

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And just to make things even more confusing i have donated and have over 1000 posts and my name is still black work that out

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There is a logical explaination for all these colour, thick ,thin problems.
According to Roy yesterday in The Stag, he has forgotten what thin, thick, green etc means himself :D :D :D

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Just because he's forgtten Neil doesn't mean that it didn't once mean something at one time! :D

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Thats true Willow but, I think too much beer has past his lips for him to ever remember, he might have to check through the forum code to work it out again :D

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Don't even suggest that to him Neil! He'll get lost in there and we may never see him again!!!! :D

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I have to say that the place where i found all the help i needed on here was from the chat room! eveyone is soo friendly in there and ready to help to the best of their abilities.

I havent been in there for ages so i dont really know if anyone uses it anymore.

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What lost in the pub?

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:D No, the forum codes. It must be a complicted collection of bumph. My brain goes funny after a while when I'm looking at things like that. I have to have lots of little "!" messages to myself. :D

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Whereas the rest of us just have lots of little ?? messages after your posts.:D

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Neil probably knows what I mean :p

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So does less:p

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Then get it fixed.

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Well, I done it,(thick and green now, if ya' all say pretty please, might tell you how :p (and a bacardi/coke) .. go on Less .. you know you wanna' be. !

Do you think it suits me ? Goes with the Red Hair .. :D

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Well I have the thick black sussed but the green still a mystery.

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OK, seeing as it is you, will let you know what I discovered .. nobody else though... :D

Go into User CP
Down to miscellaneous >>>> Group Membership.

You will find 2 options:-

1) Members + 1,000 think you may be able to do this if you have submitted over 1,000 posts which could give you thin green.

2) Donater ... press the little round thing here and 'Hey Presto' .. you thick and green, but will have had to donate, of course

Not too sure if 1) is for donations too, :confused: but at least I am now a 'thicky' :Banane29:

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Oh, dear. Back to the drawing board. Thought I had black sorted.

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Heehee I don't have the same in my CP katex :D

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Huh !! so, what you got that I haven't then ? :(

Just 'cos you top dog, does this entitle you to privileges then ??

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Mick is black 'cus he wants to be, it's a Mod thing. I suspect they have the option of black in their CP.

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If I'm 'top dog', you can be top....no, I can't say it.:D

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Sod off you, trying to establish what Willow has got xtra in her Cp that I 'aint.

Eeew Hek, Willow, didn't mean 'dog' as in 'dog' :eek:

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Thanks Katex, found the Group Memebership stuff and change my category. Now we'll see if I too can go green!

Dag, now that's a bit much! Thought I'd be a thin greeny!

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Whey, hey! Me too!! Thanks for that, Katex.

Tricia :tongue:

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I see from my CP I have now been promoted to member + 5. Can anyone tell me what that means (the +5 bit, I mean), and what I did to deserve it?

:confused:

Tricia

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Yes, I could but it would seem as if I was being a toady and I couldn't stand another have your heartless cutting insults!:D

P.S. Have you tried doing a search for the answer? (Sensible answer would be appreciated).
:rofl38::rofl38:

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:rolleyes:That was the only (tongue in cheek :rolleyes: ) insult - which you richly deserved.

The rest was nothing more than me refuting your insulting remarks about me. Strange that you classify that as "heartless". So who's being heartless, then??? :confused: I am utterly shocked :eek: that someone could be so lacking in perception and sensitivity.

So much for asking the "friendly people" on this site!!

See if I care. I'm off to sulk. :(

Tricia ;)

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thick black are mods.
thin black haven't donated.
thin green over 1000 posts.
thick green donator.
Yellow award winners.

people can rate your posts. they click on the karma word at the top right or the set of scales.
You have an option of making it positive or negative, and you can write a comment and sign it.
Positive gives you an increase prportional to the power of the person who gave it. If spuggie gave you karma your karma would increase by 12 because he's got power 12.
If he gave negative your karma would decrease by 6 because it roughly half of the power of the person taking it.

You can't give karma yet because you haven't made 100 posts, once you have made 100 posts you'll be on power 1.

your power increases by 1 for every 6 months your a member, for every 1000 posts made, and every 50 karma points you get.

So if you have 100 karma you'd have power 2 on top of any existing power.


I'm on power 7 because...
100 posts gives 1
2000 posts gives 2
150 karma gives 3
membership longer than six months gives 1

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well explained MH even i understand it all much better now cheers..

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Dont go by Madhatter he is wrong too
i am black and have Donated Len is Green and has Donated sort that out
And we are both mods:o

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I think black is for mod's but Len has selected not to be black in his control panel (its a Great Harwood thing).

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wrong.............

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I'm still waiting for the purple option (or dark orchid) :D

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I introduced somebody else last week, but my power didn't change.

:confused:

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You have to get them to fill in your user name on the recommended by part, when they sign up.

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mick looked into the recommend bit for me and apperantly it dosent happen anymore , if you pm mick im sure he will give you more info

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Thanks.

:D

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They said that they had done.

:confused:

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Just a quick question: What are the GREEN squares on the right hand side of the screen next to the Karma, & why are some of them a lighter shade?

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You get them if you're touched.

I'm a lot touched , and mine's long and glowing.:eek:

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?????????????

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused:

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Actually your green boxes say you have much to be proud of and yours accy jay say you are a jewel in the rough!!!!!!!!!

Both true???? :rolleyes:

Mines true of course it says I'm a splendid one to behold :D

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just let your mouse pointer hover over the green squares and find out what accyweb thinks of you.

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Lol, I never knew that.

Mystic Meg's assesment of me is spot on.:D

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I knew that you could hold your cursor over them. Just not why they were there. Why is there more of them next to the karma, than those under your name? Why are some a lighter shade of green?

:D