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Tinkerbelle 07-05-2005 18:45

Human Rights Act ???
 
I have got an A Level essay that I have got to complete this week for college with a working title of "Basic Human Rights Are Well Protected In The UK Since The Implementation Of The Human Rights Act 1998" critically evaluate this statement.

I need it to be about 3000 words and up to now I'm only up to 1800 but I feel like I've covered every aspect. Anybody out there proficient in the workings of the Human Rights Act that can help me out before I rip my bleeding hair out :bangh8: PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!

If you can't help with the essay can anyone tell me why I put myself up for this punishment again and again :mad:

Margaret Pilkington 07-05-2005 18:58

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Tinks......I thought I had some gubbins on this topic. We were given a load of stuff when I was still in the nursing profession.........but I have looked high and low and I can't find it.
I rarely throw stuff like that out......but it is not with the stuff from my working days.

Why don't you 'google' for some info.
If I find the stuff I will let you know.........as for your last queation.......maybe you like a challenge.

cashman 07-05-2005 19:14

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sorry can't help tinks as to why you put yourself through this punishment- think perhaps its your vocation if so go for it it'll pay off in the long run N.L.T.B.G.Y.D. good luck hope you get the info.

Doug 07-05-2005 19:14

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Track down a working Human Rights Policy related to the job intend to do and include it as a working example of the Act in Action..........

Tinkerbelle 07-05-2005 19:31

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Margaret I have googled my little heart heart out already. I found a really good site called liberty.org that was full of useful information.

Cashman thanks for the good luck I'm gonna need it lol :D

Doug I know were your coming from I have used examples to get my point across such as Article 3 which prohibits torture and degrading treatment or punishment I used the Iraq and US and British soldiers and hostages like Ken Bigly being shown on TV.

Margaret Pilkington 07-05-2005 19:41

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Don't give up Tinks.......you are more than halfway. Good luck with your searching.

Margaret Pilkington 07-05-2005 19:44

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Oh just had a thought......you have probably incorporated it anyway...... the right for people in Jail to vote......don't know what section it would come under.
Because of the recent election there was some stuff in the paper about prisoners human rights being contravened because they were not allowed the vote.

Tinkerbelle 07-05-2005 19:47

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
Oh just had a thought......you have probably incorporated it anyway...... the right for people in Jail to vote......don't know what section it would come under.
Because of the recent election there was some stuff in the paper about prisoners human rights being contravened because they were not allowed the vote.

Ahhh brilliant Margaret of course! That should be in The Times law reprts online I'll go and look. Thankyou :bow8:

Margaret Pilkington 07-05-2005 19:54

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you could argue that the prisoners human rights are not protected as he /she is not allowed to exercise their right to influence the democratic process.
Glad to be of help......I will keep scratching around to see if I can think of anything else.

oooH what about the couple in todays Mail...... have had their children removed and put up for adoption because they are a bit 'slow'........surely that contravenes the Human Rights Act.

Tinkerbelle 07-05-2005 20:24

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1,973 words now :) thanks for that Margaret the European Court found that it does breach the right to free elections,

I'll have a look at the Mail story now, that sounds like it contravenes quite a few !

Margaret Pilkington 07-05-2005 20:27

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Keep at it ..........I'm sure you'll get there.

WillowTheWhisp 07-05-2005 22:52

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That story in today's DM is incredible, and more than a little frightening. The husband doesn't actually have learning difficulties and that has been admitted. He apparently has lost his temper with the busybodies but who wouldn't when you look at how many people have been interfering in their lives. The fact that the little girl was clean and well dressed and well looked after makes me wonder how the heck she came to be on the at-risk register when I've known of children really neglected and left in dirty nappies all morning while the single parnt mother slept off the effects of the night before and social services did nothing!

Sorry Tinkerbelle, total thread wander there.

Have you covered the human rights of victims of crime?

Tinkerbelle 07-05-2005 23:27

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lol Willow thread wandering you would never catch me doing that :D No i was interested to read it because I can't find the story on the papers online bit, don't know if I will be able to still get the paper to read it tomorrow :confused:

Less 08-05-2005 00:31

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
1,973 words now

O.K. Tink's try this, put your 1,973 words down on paper then in big bold letters type.
Although I must apologise for repeating myself I don't think any harm comes from emphasising the above points.

Then you copy and paste the whole article again and Hey, 1,973 suddenly becomes:-
3963 words

Problem Solved!


Tinkerbelle 08-05-2005 01:04

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:rofl38: ******g brilliant Less the fact i didn't think of that first is an indication that these silly essays are way above my head !!

They should also give me double marks since I wrote it twice :D

Margaret Pilkington 08-05-2005 10:57

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Tinks.......I still have the Mail article......do you want me to scan it and send it to you ?
There is another article in todays Mail on Sunday.......a criminal with infectious TB who won't be treated. The Police had to let him go because it was too dangerous to question him......they risked getting the disease......he has been hospitalsied several times but has never completed the course of treatment.......this may make the TB resistant to treatment in the future. Why can't they force him to have treatment ........? Yeah, you guessed it. It infringes his human rights. His identity cannot be disclosed because of the right to confidentiality.

lettie 08-05-2005 15:24

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You may have already added the right to marry in relation to gay marriages Tinks. I used it in one of my assignments to prove a point. We all have a right to marry the person of our choice once we reach a certain age, but some institutions ie the church will not allow gay marriages. Good luck with your essay.:D

WillowTheWhisp 08-05-2005 15:59

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I was going to mention the TB story in today's Mail on Sunday but you beat me to it Margaret. Lettie's point about gay marriages leads me to another interesting point too, what happens when you've got someone who has had a sex change? They may be physically female but legally male or vice versa. Where are their human rights when it comes to choosing a marriage partner?

Tinkerbelle 08-05-2005 20:02

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
Tinks.......I still have the Mail article......do you want me to scan it and send it to you ?

Please Margaret if you would, Thanks.

Willow and Lettie I've added the gay marriage but the transexual part was very sketchy.

mez 08-05-2005 20:17

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:thumbsup: good luck tinks, hope you pass.

Margaret Pilkington 08-05-2005 20:27

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Tinks I will do my best......don't know just how it will turn out.

Tinkerbelle 08-05-2005 20:44

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Originally Posted by mez
:thumbsup: good luck tinks, hope you pass.

Cheers mez :)

Don't let it cause you any problems Margaret I know what these PCs are like when they decide they want to play games with us mere mortals :enough: !

Margaret Pilkington 08-05-2005 21:27

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Tinks.......I have scanned the article but the file is too large to post on here.
If you PM me your e-mail addy I will send it to you that way.
The quality isn't the best and I have had to do some creative folding to get all the text on.

An alternative if you don't want me to send you the scanned article would be to check if the public Library has a copy of The Daily mail from Saturday.

Margaret Pilkington 08-05-2005 21:32

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I spent ages trying to get the article to attach.......I thought it was me doing something wrong.

Margaret Pilkington 08-05-2005 21:34

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I thought I had got this a
'attachment ' business cracked!

Tinkerbelle 08-05-2005 21:36

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I PMed you with my e-mail Margaret

Margaret Pilkington 08-05-2005 21:44

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It is on it's way to you......may take a while to land as it is 1.6 Mb. It has been scanned with Norton Anti-virus too.

WillowTheWhisp 08-05-2005 21:49

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Did you send today's (Sunday's) too? I thought that was a classic.

Good luck with it Tinkerbelle. :)

lettie 09-05-2005 17:50

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Tinks, another example of the Human Rights Act gone awry are the cases of court ordered Caesarian Sections. There have been a few in the last 5 years and all have been reported in newspapers, so you should be able to google them. Basically women have been forced to have sections due to problems in labour/pregnancy where fears for the life of the unborn child have prevailed over the woman's right to refuse the op. The fetus has no rights in British law until it is born, but somehow the courts and doctors have managed to override the woman's wishes and enforce an operation. These are very interesting cases, as they show how the law can be bent to suit. Many of these women have been deemed to have phobias of needles etc therefore classed as psychiatric disorders and deemed incompetent to make a rational decision, even though the women knew that their babies would in all likelyhood die, or they would die themselves without the op. These women had all the information and knew what the outcome of their refusal would be but still chose to refuse treatment. The law treat them as incompetent even though they were intelligent women.

Also look into cases of enforced blood transfusion for Jehova's witnesses or children of Jehova's witnesses. You should find something interesting there too.:D

Sparkologist 09-05-2005 18:09

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Maybe you could discuss the human rights of burglars if they were to break into someones house and get caught in the act, resulting in some summary barrack-room justice being dished out. Once a burglar breaks into a property, do they abrogate their human rights? you could discuss it with referrence to the Tony martin case; the Norfolk farmer who collared two scrotes breaking into his secluded farmhouse. much has been written about this case, as it had a very high media profile, and a massive public campaign was instigated to free him from his prison sentence.

Tinkerbelle 09-05-2005 20:06

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Yeah thankyou Lettie and Sparky they are 2 things I haven't got in the assignment yet but I will have tomorrow after a bit of research :thumbsup: thankyou very much.

Tinkerbelle 10-05-2005 08:06

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I am just on my way to college to hand the assignment in thankyou to everyone who helped out I got to 3,082 words :D been up since 7am adding Lettie and Sparkys idea but I'm done now and I hope no one mentions Human Rights for at least a month lol :( !!!

slinky 10-05-2005 10:11

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How weird only yesterday I attended a training course for DEMENTIA sufferers.
We covered the whole rights thing in this.
  • Right to life
  • prohibition of toture
  • Prohibition of slavery and forced labour
  • Right to liberty and security
  • Right to fair trial
  • No punishment without law
  • Right to respect for private and family life
  • Freedom of thought, concience and religion
  • Freedom of expression
  • Freedom of assembly and association
  • Right to marry
  • Prohibition of descrimination
  • Protection of property (which after thing in the news at the moment this doesn't seem true).
  • Right to education
  • Right to free elections
  • Abolition of death penalty
Human Rights Act 1998

cashman 10-05-2005 12:48

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
I am just on my way to college to hand the assignment in thankyou to everyone who helped out I got to 3,082 words :D been up since 7am adding Lettie and Sparkys idea but I'm done now and I hope no one mentions Human Rights for at least a month lol :( !!!

human rights human rights lol best of luck tinks

pendy 10-05-2005 12:52

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I like the one about "Right to liberty and security". Where does that leave us when idiots with rampant TB are wandering about, infecting others? Or is that covered by their "Freedom of expression"? I suppose burglars/muggers are simply exercising their right to freedom of expression as well.

I am sick of hearing about rights - why can't we have an Act that says:

You do not have the right to infect others with your potentially fatal diseases. If you refused treatment, you will be either isolated or compelled to undergo a full course. Why can't somebody section this dangerous idiot? - then he could be treated/isolated and the rest of us can exercise our right to security.

You do not have the right to break into someone's home with impunity. If you do so, you leave your "Human Rights" at the point of entry, and the householder/victim is entitled to defend him/herself and property.

As for Willow's question about the human rights of victims of crime - forget it - they don't seem to have any.

lettie 10-05-2005 15:50

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Good luck with the essay Tinks. You can get us a drink in at the next meet up if it passes.:D

Margaret Pilkington 10-05-2005 15:56

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Sock it to 'em Tinks.......hope you do really well!

Tinkerbelle 10-05-2005 16:09

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:biggrin8: Fingers crossed and I will let you know when I get my mark

I most certainly will Lettie :cheers:


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