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Royboy39 06-08-2007 21:31

What the hell have we done to our lives???
 
We had dog tracks and stock car racing.
We had pubs with entertainers.
We had working mens clubs for snooker etc.,
We could go out for a social drink without being abused.
Where the hell are we going???????????

MargaretR 06-08-2007 22:05

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We are becoming non smoking, non drinking, celebate, god fearing, vegetarian, long living, super healthy
MISERABLE OLD GITS

garinda 06-08-2007 22:08

Re: What the hell have we done to our lives???
 
You wanna go dahn sarf Lahndan.

All the things you mentioned you'll find in my old Manor.

glasgow guy 06-08-2007 22:12

Re: What the hell have we done to our lives???
 
I know of various areas in the east of scotland and upwards that still has those..

your not looking hard enough...

MargaretR 06-08-2007 22:14

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 457138)
You wanna go dahn sarf Lahndan.

All the things you mentioned you'll find in my old Manor.

Nostalgia is a thing of the past -soon will need big wellies and a snorkle to live there man :D

PS -I have said it before - draw the scottish border at Birmingham ;)

garinda 06-08-2007 22:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 457128)
We had dog tracks and stock car racing.
We had pubs with entertainers.
We had working mens clubs for snooker etc.,
We could go out for a social drink without being abused.
Where the hell are we going???????????

We had bear baiting and dog fights.
We had gin palaces were you'd be stabbed for a farthing.
We had brothels employing 25,000 children in our great capital city alone.
We had poverty, rickets, and a life expectancy of 40.
Happy, bygone days.
Where the hell did we go wrong?:D

MargaretR 06-08-2007 22:21

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 457143)
We had bear baiting and dog fights.
We had gin palaces were you'd be stabbed for a farthing.
We had brothels employing 25,000 children in our great capital city alone.
We had poverty, rickets, and a life expectancy of 40.
Happy, bygone days.
Where the hell did we go wrong?:D

All of those things are the same except life expectancy - we can be miserable for longer

cashman 06-08-2007 23:34

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i know were royboys coming from and agree,happier,safer,times alas gone forever,coarse ya can go further back to the gin house days n they were bad and hellish times,it just boils down to this, we were lucky we had the best.:p

Eric 07-08-2007 00:03

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 457143)
We had bear baiting and dog fights.
We had gin palaces were you'd be stabbed for a farthing.
We had brothels employing 25,000 children in our great capital city alone.
We had poverty, rickets, and a life expectancy of 40.
Happy, bygone days.
Where the hell did we go wrong?:D

But he is not talking about some mythical Golden Age, some Arcadia, that can be obliterated by well chosen statistics, but of a time remembered, one that did exist.

garinda 07-08-2007 00:05

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 457163)
i know were royboys coming from and agree,happier,safer,times alas gone forever,coarse ya can go further back to the gin house days n they were bad and hellish times,it just boils down to this, we were lucky we had the best.:p


So if the 'good old days' weren't the Victorian age, when were they?

First twenty years of the century, when millions died in the Great War, or perished by contracting the flu endemic?

The 1920's and 30's, when millions were unemployed because of the depression, and no welfare state, only the workhouse, to catch the poor?

Perhaps the forties, when yet more millions of service men and women died, never mind the civilian casualties.

50's, after rationing had ended, and before all the peace and free love of the 60's had started?

I've worked it out. The halcyon days of old were from January 1954- May 1957.:D

garinda 07-08-2007 00:06

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...or perhaps the good old days are whenever we were young?;)

cashman 07-08-2007 00:21

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personally i think the best days were 50/60s on the basis that everyone that wanted had a full time job and with it the dosh to enjoy it,think most folk enjoy their youth/teens in any generation,would be very surprised if they didn,t,times moved on and in some respects its better,some worse.

KIPAX 07-08-2007 00:27

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Yer all wrong.. the good old days are in the future...

..

cashman 07-08-2007 00:30

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Originally Posted by KIPAX (Post 457185)
Yer all wrong.. the good old days are in the future...

..

nowt like an optimist,hope yer right.;)

Eric 07-08-2007 00:55

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 457187)
nowt like an optimist,hope yer right.;)


But don't hold your breath.

beechy 07-08-2007 05:50

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 457187)
nowt like an optimist,hope yer right.;)

one word springs to mind
APATHY we would never have sat back and allowed
all these so called beneficial measures if inflicted upon
us by a hitlerite or stalinist government

Royboy39 07-08-2007 08:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 457128)
We had dog tracks and stock car racing.
We had pubs with entertainers.
We had working mens clubs for snooker etc.,
We could go out for a social drink without being abused.
Where the hell are we going???????????

The question was asked of the people in the area who are still alive and in a position to give a sensible answer....It was not meant as a history lesson nor was it intended to attract a reaction from the living dead from the 'Smoke'
(That is a joke) :D:D:D Alice

KIPAX 07-08-2007 08:22

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 457217)
The question was asked of the people in the area who are still alive and in a position to give a sensible answer....

So dead people arn't allowed to reply? Charming.... they will be turning in there graves :)

Royboy39 07-08-2007 08:27

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Originally Posted by KIPAX (Post 457219)
So dead people arn't allowed to reply? Charming.... they will be turning in there graves :)

Possible exemption........Dead from't neck up :)

KIPAX 07-08-2007 08:30

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 457223)
Possible exemption........Dead from't neck up :)


I am so tempted... But no one would talk to me again :)

Royboy39 07-08-2007 08:38

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Originally Posted by KIPAX (Post 457224)
I am so tempted... But no one would talk to me again :)

Go for it........I will lend you a can opener:alright:

garinda 07-08-2007 09:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 457217)
The question was asked of the people in the area who are still alive and in a position to give a sensible answer....It was not meant as a history lesson nor was it intended to attract a reaction from the living dead from the 'Smoke'
(That is a joke) :D:D:D Alice

Besides the dog and stock car racing, you can still find all the things you've mentioned in Ossy, and I've certainly never been abused whilst out and about here.

Bagpuss 07-08-2007 14:53

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 457178)
I've worked it out. The halcyon days of old were from January 1954- May 1957.:D

After 1957 it would be about the time we started letting immigrants in large numbers from Pakistan, India and Bangladesh into our country. You said it Garinda ;):)

garinda 07-08-2007 15:00

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 457319)
After 1957 it would be about the time we started letting immigrants in large numbers from Pakistan, India and Bangladesh into our country. You said it Garinda ;):)

Because of the chronic labour shortages, the first wave of post war immigration to 'the mother country', started in 1948, with the arrival of Empire Windrush.

Bagpuss 07-08-2007 15:02

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 457320)
Because of the chronic labour shortages, the first wave of post war immigration to 'the mother country', started in 1948, with the arrival of Empire Windrush.

I said in large numbers after Suez or the end of the Commonwealth as such.

Royboy39 07-08-2007 15:27

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 457320)
Because of the chronic labour shortages, the first wave of post war immigration to 'the mother country', started in 1948, with the arrival of Empire Windrush.

For anyone who's interested here is the history:

Empire Windrush - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bagpuss 07-08-2007 20:08

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 457319)
After 1957 it would be about the time we started letting immigrants in large numbers from Pakistan, India and Bangladesh into our country. You said it Garinda ;):)

Please read my post again does it mention anything about West Indians !!!:p

Margaret Pilkington 07-08-2007 20:19

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I sometimes think that time and distance lend a little bit of distortion to our memories. It doesn't matter how old you are right now, you will always look back and think that things were better back then(when you were young and in your prime)......I'm sure our grandparents said much the same things.
Having said that, there have been vast changes in social and economic areas in my lifetime. I'm glad that i had my childhood during the fifties.....I think it was a good time to be growing up. But then if you ask a child of the eighties, i am pretty sure they would feel the same.......perspective, all about perspective.

Eric 08-08-2007 16:43

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 457414)
I sometimes think that time and distance lend a little bit of distortion to our memories. It doesn't matter how old you are right now, you will always look back and think that things were better back then(when you were young and in your prime)......I'm sure our grandparents said much the same things.
Having said that, there have been vast changes in social and economic areas in my lifetime. I'm glad that i had my childhood during the fifties.....I think it was a good time to be growing up. But then if you ask a child of the eighties, i am pretty sure they would feel the same.......perspective, all about perspective.

I don't think it is about perspective ... I think it is about clogs ... all of us who wore clogs and can remember visits to the clogger are right about what we say ... all others are full of s**t;)

Margaret Pilkington 08-08-2007 16:50

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I remember clogs, but didn't wear them...my Gran wore them to the mill because they were comfortable footwear and lasted a long time....you could get the rubber soles replaced cheaply (they were not allowed to have the metal soled clogs due to the risk of sparks setting fire to the 'dawn' under the looms).
So you must be a bit older than me if you wore clogs to school/work/where-ever.

MargaretR 08-08-2007 16:58

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mI remember wearing clogs very well (early 40's) mine were brown leather with irons. There was a clogger operating from a wooden hut on Catlow Hall St on the land next to what is now a chinese chippy(it was then an ironmongers shop) My parents both worked in the mill and wore clogs. I remember how they used to put socks OVER the clogs in icy weather to prevent the irons slipping on the ice. I dont remeber a ban on mill workers wearing irons - but then health and safety wasnt given the priority it has now.

mallard 08-08-2007 18:32

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you dont nowe what,s comeing next,it could be fines for everything to make up for the loss of trade in the pubs for the smokeing ban.


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