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joanne72_uk 10-11-2007 09:39

iphone ??
 
Did anyone buy an iphone yesterday? if so have you been able to activate it? I bought one late last night, got home but when I phoned for the PAC code I needed the call centre was closed. Tried this morning and after an hour of trying to access itunes I finally got my PAC code (which I should have been given by the sales person ay 02 last night) but now I am waiting for 02 to activate my account, they say this could take another 24 hours. So much for yesterdays launch date, I have paid £269 for a phone that I can't access, can't even access itunes now because there is a back-log.

Mr Aleks 10-11-2007 11:33

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Why anyone would want to buy one of these i dont know. It is only a 2G phone so internet page loading will slower than you are expecting. You cant do things like IM on the net as you should be able to. The camera is terrible with only 2MP and there is no way to extend the memory for those with large music collections. Get a N95

Speedy 10-11-2007 12:31

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I was looking at one today, not as good as i was expecting. And i agree N95 is a more well rounded phone.

Mr Aleks 10-11-2007 12:33

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If you like wasting money get the iPhone...

i pick mine up later lol

onlyme 10-11-2007 13:42

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should have a look at the HP smartphone. (think its called 514 voice messenger). not as publicised but hell of a lot cheaper and better lol

Mr Aleks 10-11-2007 13:44

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People like to be seen with the coolest gsdgets though even if that means they buy the ones that are not techically the best

MargaretR 10-11-2007 13:51

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Originally Posted by Aleks (Post 491664)
People like to be seen with the coolest gsdgets though even if that means they buy the ones that are not techically the best

Its the same with designer labels - attracts posers - ie. people who need their confidence boosting due to their lack of self worth

glasgow guy 10-11-2007 16:12

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Originally Posted by margaret@rothwell5.f (Post 491666)
people who need their confidence boosting due to their lack of self worth

thats 100% correct...

entwisi 10-11-2007 18:04

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Firstly its actually 2.5G not 2G Aleks :D

secondly, its crap from a lot of other aspects.

No Picture mesaging.... err. thats rubbish nowadays
Slow Internet
No unlocking for even when your contract is up
No spare battery capability if it runs out(i.e. its sealed inside)
Teh screen scratches like mad
Text messaging is hard unless you have an 8 year olds sized fingers
it needs two hands to do owt ( I to hold teh other to use)
Internal memory is no where near enough for a fully fledged Media tool


I can go on...


Joanne, If I was you I'd take it back in the 14 day cool off and get an N95

SERIOUSLY!!!

pipinfort 12-11-2007 13:49

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yes, major rip off!!!! i phone my arse

emamum 12-11-2007 15:58

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Originally Posted by pipinfort (Post 492656)
yes, major rip off!!!! i phone my arse


whats the number??:D

emamum 13-11-2007 16:00

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apparently they are unlockable...... you have to download and install anysim through the safari web browser

Mr Aleks 13-11-2007 16:10

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 491809)
Firstly its actually 2.5G not 2G Aleks :D

secondly, its crap from a lot of other aspects.

No Picture mesaging.... err. thats rubbish nowadays
Slow Internet
No unlocking for even when your contract is up
No spare battery capability if it runs out(i.e. its sealed inside)
Teh screen scratches like mad
Text messaging is hard unless you have an 8 year olds sized fingers
it needs two hands to do owt ( I to hold teh other to use)
Internal memory is no where near enough for a fully fledged Media tool

So pretty much what ive already said.

emamum 13-11-2007 16:18

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apparently it is the same as the ipod touch but with a phone but since the ipod touch connects to the internet you should be able to make calls through skype (or another) once you have unlocked it to be able to install 3rd party apps... the ipod touch is much cheaper so would be a better buy....

:not_ripe:




:wave8::wave8:

andrewb 17-12-2007 21:07

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Just got one, they're brilliant. The camera might be 2 MP but you really can't put everything down to MP, its far superior to my old 2MP phone. Not that I really use my phone camera anyway.

Internet, not gonna be using 2.5G. Not because its slower than 3G but because data rates cost a fortune if you're not on an unlimited data plan, and got £7.50 a month, I can do without. Wifi is fine, infact they have a free wifi in mcdonalds i've now noticed!

The battery is far far far better than an N95. The N95 might have a 5MP camera and cook you a full english breakfast in the morning while downloading the stock exchange, but by lunch its rendered useless without a charger!

All in all, the interface is great and I've never had a better internet browsing experience with a phone, or any handheld device. It is incredibly intuitive, and has a vast amount of applications including a perfectly good IM program (no idea what you're on about there aleks)

MargaretR 17-12-2007 21:13

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"and cook you a full english breakfast in the morning "
sounds like what I have spent a lifetime searching for :rolleyes:

entwisi 18-12-2007 07:29

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Heh Cyfr, you really have got the apple fanboy bug :D

so by your own admission

The phones crap
The data charges make it exhorbitant to run
Its not as fully featured as teh N95


Now to other failings

Ringtone volume is not up to spec of other phones,
No MMS
No video recording yet ( some guy is trying to hack a solution )


Did I mention no accelerometer (probably one of the most recent discoveries on the N95 and already subject to some cracking apps)


In fact lets cut to the chase, you've bought an interface with little substance. :D

entwisi 18-12-2007 07:59

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Doh, meant to type teh CAMERAS crap

andrewb 18-12-2007 10:27

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 505126)
Heh Cyfr, you really have got the apple fanboy bug :D

so by your own admission

The phones crap
The data charges make it exhorbitant to run
Its not as fully featured as teh N95


Now to other failings

Ringtone volume is not up to spec of other phones,
No MMS
No video recording yet ( some guy is trying to hack a solution )


Did I mention no accelerometer (probably one of the most recent discoveries on the N95 and already subject to some cracking apps)


In fact lets cut to the chase, you've bought an interface with little substance. :D

No the camera isn't crap, I just don't use camera phones, in the same way I hardly ever used my cybershot camera phone :p

Data rates make ANY phone expensive. On the normal contract you get unlimited data but I chose not to go for that one as I don't want to pay that amount, since when I did have unlimited data when I had a N95 for a week, I didn't use it anywhere near enough to balance out the cost.

MMS - Personally never use, if you do then iphones not for you!
I never record videos, or if I do they're worthless ones that i've deleted the next day. :p


The iphone has an accelerometer! Has lots of games that use it too :]

Oh and ringing volume, well I can't comment as I had my old phone on silent 24/7

ps. Where are you on msn :p

entwisi 18-12-2007 10:36

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I'm at work mate, no msn access here anymore ( lost use of teh wifi LAN)

I can and do use my ancient N80 for loads of browsing. Data is now becoming accessible with some operators offering decent amounts for ~£5 /month.

I've seen some of those videos BTW, You tube is full of them :D

OK, forgot about the accelerometer but can you control a remote control car with it :D (Yes, some geek has made his N95 do it)

andrewb 18-12-2007 11:18

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Of course the N80 is good for browsing but it isn't a patch on the iphone in that aspect

I can control my mac? :p

Controlling itunes is fun :]

entwisi 18-12-2007 11:23

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Errr, I could do this 18 months ago on mine( Home media centre ). why do you reckon its not as good for browsing? The browser is superb, the high res screen makes full size websites easy. The 3G makes them download nice and snappy, I can even run remote desktop

kathleen_firth 18-12-2007 11:50

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has any body seen the new i pod pram called the i coo. it has speakers in the hood , apparently to play lullabies to your baby

entwisi 18-12-2007 12:25

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One of teh funniest videos on Youtube

YouTube - Madtv - Apple I-rack

:D

blazey 19-12-2007 11:35

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I always thought you pick a camera with high megapixel if you want to blow up the pictures to a bigger size, which obviously people do when transferring their pics from phone to pc. 2 megapizel isn't too bad from phone to pc, but if you intend on blowing them up even bigger to print out then I would assume you'd want much better than 2 megapixel.

Optical zoom is whats necessary for quality pictures I was told, yet so many people put it down to just being the megapixels.

The main flaw with the phone is that its simply ugly as hell and its got too much screen which is inevitably going to get scratched or cracked and look like crap, then you add all the finger prints onto of the damage and you dont have a decent looking phone at all and you'll probably give it to your teenage child for their birthday so you have an excuse to get the phone you were advised to get in the first place that was actually cheaper.

kathleen_firth 19-12-2007 11:37

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i think there is worser phones out there...

entwisi 19-12-2007 12:14

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 505609)
I always thought you pick a camera with high megapixel if you want to blow up the pictures to a bigger size, which obviously people do when transferring their pics from phone to pc. 2 megapizel isn't too bad from phone to pc, but if you intend on blowing them up even bigger to print out then I would assume you'd want much better than 2 megapixel.

Optical zoom is whats necessary for quality pictures I was told, yet so many people put it down to just being the megapixels.

The main flaw with the phone is that its simply ugly as hell and its got too much screen which is inevitably going to get scratched or cracked and look like crap, then you add all the finger prints onto of the damage and you dont have a decent looking phone at all and you'll probably give it to your teenage child for their birthday so you have an excuse to get the phone you were advised to get in the first place that was actually cheaper.

Megapixel does not equal better picture, even with enlargements more pixels does not mean it will blow up better. Lenses(type, quality), size of sensor, type of sensor, and others all make a big difference. You only need to look at say a 8Meg Canon 20D DLSR vs a 9/10 Meg compact. I know where my money would be on quality of enlargements.

Optical zoom is the only real zoom, digital is just cropping the number of pixels you use and displaying it at full size. Ignore any digital zoom figure as its worthless

Ugly, nope, Even I'll give it that, its stylish to look at, whether it will be resilient to scratches etc I doubt it but out the box its nice to look at and hold.

blazey 19-12-2007 17:59

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 505638)
Megapixel does not equal better picture, even with enlargements more pixels does not mean it will blow up better. Lenses(type, quality), size of sensor, type of sensor, and others all make a big difference. You only need to look at say a 8Meg Canon 20D DLSR vs a 9/10 Meg compact. I know where my money would be on quality of enlargements.

Optical zoom is the only real zoom, digital is just cropping the number of pixels you use and displaying it at full size. Ignore any digital zoom figure as its worthless

Ugly, nope, Even I'll give it that, its stylish to look at, whether it will be resilient to scratches etc I doubt it but out the box its nice to look at and hold.

I might be going mad but your talking about an actual camera now rather than a mobile phone arent you? I am not saying a camera needs to look pretty, i was saying the Iphone is an ugly phone. Phones dont tend to have high specs as far as the other details go, because they know buyers tend to think its the megapixel that makes the difference, my point, as a non-camera expert is that it simply just isn't the case.

entwisi 19-12-2007 21:10

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Err, I think your going mad :D

I quoted you were you simply stated 'camera' and TBH the same applies to cameras and to teh cameras on phones. Some phones are now realising that they need to put decent lenses etc on hence the Zeiss lenses etc on stuff like the N95 etc

The iPhone isn't ugly. Even the most anti iPhone (like me) agree its a looker.

kathleen_firth 19-12-2007 21:33

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 505850)

The iPhone isn't ugly. Even the most anti iPhone (like me) agree its a looker.


i agree ..


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