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ok, this one is for parents of primary school age!
what stage should a 7 year old be while reading these books, my son is reading them and i want to know if hes doing well or not with the stages:rolleyes:

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panther they read are there own pace, i noticed that when reece was reading them, as long as you encourage him and have him reading them at home thats all that matters, the oxford books are pretty new and a lot better than the old books they used to have, i wouldnt worry about it

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I know flashy, but just want to know what most 7 year old are reading, so i have a idea if my son is doing well or not.

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they didnt do oxford when reece was 7, they had those new way books then

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Not sure about the stages!! My youngest is nearly 9 years old now, can't remember what stage he was on when he was 7.

You could always have a word with his teacher!

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is your 9 year old still on them slinky?

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My little boy is nearly six and he's on Stage 5.

But to be honest, I really don't think it matters what stage they're on as long as they're happy and understanding what they're reading. Zack's just at that fun stage when he's reading all signs and notices out as we walk/drive along.

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I think his teacher would be the best person to ask Panther, though I agree with Flashy children read at their own pace, not sure what stage Ellies on because her school have just changed their system to colour coded and the Oxford books are only read at home now they use different for lessons, I just try to make reading fun and do a bit every day.

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all schools use a different system. what are they like? do they have decent sentences?

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ALL schools should be on oxford books now, its part of the curriculum

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yeah.. but not al schools can afford new books when they have perfectly good ones already

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all schools get a yearly budget, believe me all schools should have these new books, there is something desperately wrong if they dont, its no good them having old books when life changes so much over the years, being an ex school governor i know these things

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the schools that i have worked in have been schools in deprived areas and most of the children couldnt read them even if they had them...

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deprived or not, most schools get the same or a similar budget every year, the LEA wouldnt allow a school to use books from say 10 years ago

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the schools money is eaten up by bi-lingual assistants, extra teaching assistants and special support assistants, some are also having to employ extra staff to control the children at break times and these are paid for by the school not the lea..the last place i worked at was a ks2 class and there were only 10 children out of 60 on a reading scheme all others where on free choice of picture books....

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picture books at key stage 2? kin ell

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Free choice of picture books! That's appalling! :mad:

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i know...... it was my job to read with them and change their books. the children were supposed to make up a story to go with the pictures (like expected in reception) but the reading records were never filled in from home.. you could tell that the parents never even went in their bags cos there would me letter still in there from months ago..... there is too much that the school has to pay for and not enough money to pay for it!

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I think it is a fair comment to say with kids you get out of them what you put in. Our 10 year old, he is the youngest in his class, has a reading age of 15+

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i agree.. my lad could read before he started school..he is 6 and he reads the juniors reading books and reads real books (eg gruffalo at the mo) to me at home.. the other problem with schools is that the lower ability children get more help and attention than the high ability children, these children are pretty much expected to fend for them selves.....

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erm isnt the gruffalo an oxford book?

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dont think so,

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What a load of tosh. My lad gets extra work to do both in and out of class because he is of a high ability. Unless his teacher told us a load off bull and he just lets him sit in the corner reading all day.

Out of interest which school are you talking about?

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I couldn't agree more, Neil and Emamum.

I was informed by school that my son had a reading age of an 8 year old when he was in reception class. He's 6 now and is working his way through the 4th Harry Potter book.

I have always been an avid reader and very good in English lessons at school. He takes after me and it just seems to come naturally to him.

It doesn't come naturally to everyone. Some children will be stronger at something else. All children have a talent.

However, you can make such a difference by reading to them as babies and making time to enjoy books together as they get older. This helps no end.

I just can't understand parents who don't read their children's school books with them. Why would you not want your child to read? :confused:

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that means you chose a good school.. i worked at schools in pendle...ive seen children that finish their work before the others given pictures to colour in and sent to play with toys while they are waiting for the others to finish.. it depends what the average ability in the class is...

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its all about encouragement

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ok so its the parents AND the teachers fault then

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when there is only 5 children of "normal" or above ability the teachers and teaching assistants are kept busy with the others. there was three of us in that class. 2 ta's and a teacher and we all had a group of 6 children who needed our help..

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Nope, it depends on the teaching staff.

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the teaching staff do their best! too many children and not enough help.. at least 5 children in that class should have had special support assistants but again the school didnt have the funding

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They had these books when I was at school. The colour names get more complex as the difficulty gets harder. Normally they'll start on red or blue, something like that, and as they get near the end the colours are named things like Olive (which I remember as being the more difficult) and maroon etc.

I wouldn't worry though, if you find he is a bit lower it might make you feel like your failing him or something and if you get frustrated then he'll sense it and feel nervous too. Its important that he ENJOYS the reading, thats just the main thing. Dont put pressure on him and he'll flourish.

Also encourage him buy letting him a book to buy at the shops every now and again, and ask the assistant what books are popular with his age group at the moment. They're usually knowledgable on the reviews and should be able to pick a selection that he'll enjoy.

England is quite advanced with teaching reading, many countries dont actually begin teaching children to read til 7 years of age, and many foreign students come her eto study at universities every year and can read and write english fine, and it'll be mainly down to them simply enjoying reading from a young age, not necessarily being top at the class.

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some schools follow the teachigs of different schools.. a montesorri schools follows the montesorri way of teaching and some such as isaacs say that children shouldnt learn how to read before seve because they are not cognitively ready for reading and instead should still be settliing into education.. theres not so many in britain but loads in america.

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Enough said :rolleyes::D

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theres a montesoori in skipton.. i quite like the montesorri way of teaching.. the child learns at thir own pace and the teacher follows the child. they put out the learning materials and let the child learn from it instead of forcing them to learn what the teacher wants. They learn specific things at key times in their development when they are most likely to be able to understand.Susan montesoori was the person that introduced school dinners and child sized tables and chairs in school..

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Maddie is above average in reading - she's 8 and she's read all the Harry Potter books and lots of others. She could read and write the alphabet before she got to school and didn't have any picture books (the first stage of Oxford reading) because she went straight on to books with words.

So, it was a bit of a shock for us when Zack didn't take to it quite so easily. In fact, it would be fair to say that it's only in the last couple of months that it's clicked with him and he's nearly six. He's had the same amount of home reading as Maddie had and we've read stories to them from an early age in exactly the same way. But he wasn't interested, he loved the stories but preferred us to tell them to him rather than him have to do the work. Like I said, it's all clicked and now he's reading everything and anything, we can't hold him back now (not that we'd want to).

My point with this very long tale is that kids all learn at different ages but it also needs a lot of perseverance from parents. We could easily have given up a year ago and not bothered about him reading well but we didn't. It's very frustrating when you've sat there night after night having to help him through the same books, but it's well worth it now.

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The oxford tree reading books are widely used for read alone or guided reading on higher stages, used in conjunction with assessment & reading progress guides for every level in infant/early junior stages. Every child is different & reads at different stages dependant on understanding & reading ability, also there is usually a huge difference in reading both at school & at home as long as both is done - then should be no worries. I used to do a reading assessment in school for 7-8 year olds, which was extra reading based on an assortment of books & different types on top of their reading book [which was mainly Oxford Tree], these children were average & below on their reading level for their age, after 12 weeks the poorest i had was 6mnths above the level they started on:D, so despite short time & the most important bit was gaging their reading interest, expanding on the standard reading book to incorporate, poetry, fiction, nnon fiction & rhyme. This had a big impact on their Literacy tests [English] like in comprehension tests, as well as improving reading - so it does benefit having extra reading doing a bit each day, both at school & at home, i proved a sceptical teacher wrong hehehehe:D

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The problem with that laid back approach is the risk of the child being too certain of themself to try something new and risk making mistakes. Not all children are keen to learn, and therefore I dont think think that type of teaching is a wise choice to accomodate all types of child and personality.

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I always read with my child, he fetches 3 books a week home, andI think hes doing really well!
went on the web site....lost for words.... and did ...The burt reading test.......happy now it says my child as the reading ability of a 8.5 year old:rolleyes:, not bad to say hes 7, well nearly;)

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I think that Gayle raises some very valid points, you can't expect all kids of the same age to be at the same reading/writing/maths level. As long as you encourage your kids as much as you can they will pick the skills up eventually. It is no good saying to yourself other kids are further on if you know your child is doing their best that is all you can ask of them.

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some kids are good at some things, but bad at others, like ya say they can only do there best;)

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at a montesorri school children cannot make mistakes because there is never a wrong answer. as long as the children learnt something from it thats what matters.