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blazey 23-12-2007 16:49

laminate flooring
 
how much does laminate flooring generally cost, say by the square foot, and how much does it cost to be fitted?

cashman 23-12-2007 17:30

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dont know the cost now blazey, but have had it n found it very cold, also the dog kept slipping on it. we had it covered.;)

MargaretR 23-12-2007 17:36

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Carpet absorbs noise -- hard floors don't.
Also, if you are in an upper floor flat, the people below you might be disturbed by the noise of you moving around.
I know it is trendy and more hygenic, but it has its drawbacks

derekgas 23-12-2007 17:37

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 506819)
how much does laminate flooring generally cost, say by the square foot, and how much does it cost to be fitted?

You can buy it pretty cheap now, depends on what quality you want, whichever you have it is important to fit it correctly, there are contacts on the net, so given your phobia, you can e-mail for quotes, I have to agree with cashy though, more people are removing laminate floors than installing it now, it is cold, slippy, noisy, nightmare for pets and kids with stocking feet, if you get water under it, it is ruined, even mopping some of the cheap stuff breaks the edges up, my house had it when I bought it, turned out everything underneath was rotten, and I had to replace the whole ground floor. Also, these cause problems for anyone who needs to get underneath them, ie plumbers, electricians etc.

panther 23-12-2007 17:38

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dont like it meself, neighbours have it in their house and she is forever sweeping it!!.....full of dust!!....noisy too yaou can hear the dogs claws on it when it walks....

lancsdave 23-12-2007 17:42

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It's so yesterday :)

blazey 23-12-2007 17:45

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Wasn't particularly bothered about the cold or having to clean it, we clean the carpet everyday anyway. and we use large rugs which cover most of the floor anyway.

Just easier to replace rugs than to keep replacing carpet! Also we dont have dogs so clawing tapping on it wont matter, and we live in a house, not a flat :)

If anyone has had some fitted recently and has an idea of the price it was then i'd be grateful.

Tin Monkey 23-12-2007 17:52

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I have it in my cinema room (for the acoustics, don't you know? ;) ) and it was about £16 per pack, but that was a reduced price.
I wouldn't want it in my living room, as it is very cold and not very nice underfoot, unlike wood (which feels warmer and more natural.... obviously).

I fitted it myself. It's not hard to do and if you ever need to lift it so that workmen can access the floor underneath, then it can be re-laid again as long as you do it carefully. I know, because I lifted mine and re-laid it again last week. :)

blazey 23-12-2007 18:02

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 506873)
I have it in my cinema room (for the acoustics, don't you know? ;) ) and it was about £16 per pack, but that was a reduced price.
I wouldn't want it in my living room, as it is very cold and not very nice underfoot, unlike wood (which feels warmer and more natural.... obviously).

I fitted it myself. It's not hard to do and if you ever need to lift it so that workmen can access the floor underneath, then it can be re-laid again as long as you do it carefully. I know, because I lifted mine and re-laid it again last week. :)

So how much did you get per 'pack'? How many did you have to use?

Tin Monkey 23-12-2007 18:06

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 506882)
So how much did you get per 'pack'? How many did you have to use?

I think most packs are about 2 square metres.

nikkival 23-12-2007 18:08

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It all depends on the quality you go for, you can get underlay to go under it which doesn't make it as cold. I had 3 bedrooms, hall, landing, front-room & dining room done a few years back with Pergo laminate flooring and it cost me £3000 including underlay & fitting, it's probably the mid-high end of the price scale. I love it and would never go back to carpets.

Have a look at this homebase page it will give you an idea on prices -

Online Laminate flooring selection from Homebase.co.uk.

blazey 23-12-2007 19:59

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Originally Posted by nikkival (Post 506886)
It all depends on the quality you go for, you can get underlay to go under it which doesn't make it as cold. I had 3 bedrooms, hall, landing, front-room & dining room done a few years back with Pergo laminate flooring and it cost me £3000 including underlay & fitting, it's probably the mid-high end of the price scale. I love it and would never go back to carpets.

Have a look at this homebase page it will give you an idea on prices -

Online Laminate flooring selection from Homebase.co.uk.

Thanks alot :)

blazey 23-12-2007 20:06

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Also you need to remember that dust goes INTO your carpet, at least with laminate flooring you can see it and clean it up easier. There isn't (or at least shouldnt) be any less cleaning either way.

emamum 23-12-2007 20:12

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i dont mop my carpet.. i have a really good vac tho....

entwisi 23-12-2007 20:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 506873)
I have it in my cinema room (for the acoustics, don't you know? ;) )


You don't want that, trust me, Room acoustics really don't need hard floors as well as windows as it makes everything boom.

If you want somnething that doesn't sound like an echo-y drum boom box then get some carpet down asap.

get spikes on your speakers trhough the carpet to isolate them. but you really sound have some soft furnishings in the room to balance the room acoustics

Lilly 23-12-2007 21:11

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Our house was laminated downstairs when we bought it. We lived with it for a while and then we couldn't bear it any longer, we ripped the ghastly stuff up and got a carpet fitted.

As has already been said, it was very cold, hard, slippery and a beggar to keep clean.

Tin Monkey 23-12-2007 21:17

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To be fair entwisi, I did alot of research and trials when constructing the room and the sound is very good. There is no boom and no echo.
Everything is balanced and the acoustics are as good as they can be from the equipment I purchased. The amount of money it all cost, I wasn't going to just dump it all in a room and leave it.

entwisi 24-12-2007 06:47

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Not possible, unless you have wall hanging tapestries or 4 or 5 settees you have to great a % of hard surfaces for sound acoustics to be good. The difference soft stuff(including humans) makes is amazing. I do the sound desk at our local church and the difference in how it sounds based on the number of people is astonishing.( I learnt the trade at Uni and have mixed for quite a few decent stars including Desmond Decker and others.)

I also spent a lot of time( my first job) in hifi setting up very expensive HiFi systems in people's houses and tuning sounds to match expectations and room acoustics. Go to any decent HiFi shop and look at the listening rooms, I bet every one is carpeted with a large settee and probably a couple of curtains.

Anyway, what you got?

I just swapped out my HiFi Quad amp for a Onkyo SR605, fronted by Key iQ5SE's. I've a nice pair of Kef Cresta 3's for rears ( I used to sell Onkyo stuff when it first came to teh UK, t'was very good even then. and I've always liked teh Kef 'sound')

Tin Monkey 24-12-2007 10:05

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I think a lot depends on the type of films you watch. I watch films that are dialogue heavy, rather than being sound-effects driven. When the room was carpeted the sound was fine, but since replacing the flooring I find the clarity of the dialogue much improved (actually noticeable, rather than some reviewer's measure of improvement).

I understand perfectly what you are saying, as I did a lot of research before deciding on my design. I also reasoned that if the sound was affected by the hard flooring, then I could put rugs down. However, I found the dialogue so much clearer with the hard flooring, so the rugs haven't been necessary. As I say, I don't tend to watch films with loud music or sound effects, so boom, etc hasn't been an issue. I don't even use my subwoofer anymore.

The equipment I have at the moment is a Sony DTR-DB1080 amp/receiver (due to be replaced fairly soon), Kef 2005.2 (6 x eggs) speakers and a Panasonic AE-200 projector (4:3 & 16:9). I have it connected by component cable and is progressively scanned. This allows me to use a 91" (approx) screen, which looks good from the distance I view from.

The Onkyo stuff is getting some really good reviews and I planned on trialing some of their stuff when I upgrade my amp. I also agree with your view on the Kefs, they produce some cracking speakers. However, the Castle Trent's I have in my lounge are probably the best stereo speakers I've heard. ;)

entwisi 24-12-2007 10:20

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heh, Want to borrow my electrostatics for a while? They will blow you away with soundstage and clarity.

When I sold the stuff it always made me laugh when people brought in what HiFi etc and wanted to buy the latest greatest without even listening to it. My comment was that there were three words missing from every single review in every single magazine " In my opinion"

If there is one thing that took the longest to get across it was that only you can decide what sounds 'better' as I don't have the same hearing that you do. I prefer a natural clarity to my sound(hence I love the electrostats and the valve amps. the Kefs give the closest to that sound without being there) , you may like a crisper, brighter sound, then the next bloke wants bass heavy boom. None of us are 'right', just different. When it comes to spending more money on kit, its a law of depreciating returns, moving from a £100 amp to a £200 will be very noticeable but from a £500-£600 will be much harder to justify. Same with speakers.

I sold stuff on the principle of starting a system at 75% of what the customer wanted to spend then tweaking individual components and if they could hear a difference then fair enough, if they couldn't then no point in spending it. Often I could save them (quite) a few quid which meant they went home happy and recommended us to friends etc. I reckon we made far more money from repeat sales than from squeezing every last penny from each customer. It was nice to actually see people with systems that were suited purely to them and their listening rather than whatever Joe bloggs who writes for a magazine thinks they should have. I used to really enjoy doing teh install in peoples homes as you could really make a difference by proper positioning speakers etc.

Tin Monkey 24-12-2007 13:28

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To be honest, when I next decorate in that room, I'm replacing the laminate with carpet. I just don't like the look and feel of laminate anymore.. ;)

firth_dawn 24-12-2007 14:26

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i love my laminate flooring so easy to clean just a sweep and a mop each day and its done.

jackyalex 24-12-2007 17:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by panther (Post 506862)
dont like it meself, neighbours have it in their house and she is forever sweeping it!!.....full of dust!!....noisy too yaou can hear the dogs claws on it when it walks....

you got it all in one there panther, i hate mine for all the same reasons, and the dust is bad

magpie 25-12-2007 22:46

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I love mine: however if you spill anything mop it right away or it will warp: I have a better quality in the kitchen so when I can afford will go for that:

I also use a steam mop really good: and no chemicals: only water very hot:

go for it you will never look back.... oh one last things tights with no shoes on and a few many a few too many beers do not work well with this kind of floor one tends to slip : ouch

blazey 27-12-2007 23:04

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Carpet doesnt repel dust people, it simply holds the dust better so it isn't as visible, and if you dont vacuum your carpets everyday anyway then I just find that a little odd. Surely you realise that dust is sloughed human skin, pretty much impossible to avoid in the home? Therefore you'd be vacuuming everyday anyway, the only difference with laminate flooring is that you can see what is coming off you, whereas with carpet you aren't as likely to notice.

Shouldn't be any less cleaning involved, unless of course you just dont class things as dirty if you cant see the dirt.

katex 27-12-2007 23:33

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 508531)
Carpet doesnt repel dust people, it simply holds the dust better so it isn't as visible, and if you dont vacuum your carpets everyday anyway then I just find that a little odd. Surely you realise that dust is sloughed human skin, pretty much impossible to avoid in the home? Therefore you'd be vacuuming everyday anyway, the only difference with laminate flooring is that you can see what is coming off you, whereas with carpet you aren't as likely to notice.

Shouldn't be any less cleaning involved, unless of course you just dont class things as dirty if you cant see the dirt.

Personally, I find it very comforting to know that the dust I am sweeping or vacuuming out of my carpets or furniture are the discarded skin cells of myself, friends and family .. when they have left from their visit, lovely reminder, and not going to do you any harm ... :D

Around 30% comes from the outside, and animals, in the form of soil deposits and stone from the streets, etc. Dust mites are a big culprit as they feed on deposits.. seemingly cotton fibres, jeans being the main culprit (mainly worn by young university students) .. OK. admit it bin googling . LOl

The right type of muck does no one any harm ... just virus or bacteria carrying kind, which dust 'aint. Must admit don't know much about how much bacteria a laminate floor can hold, but does penetrate it fairly rapidly .. lots of wipes advertised anyway.. :confused:

panther 28-12-2007 09:58

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 508531)
and if you dont vacuum your carpets everyday anyway then I just find that a little odd.
.

LOL.....you vac up....LOL

blazey 28-12-2007 15:32

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 508624)
LOL.....you vac up....LOL

Have you ever been to my house? No. So please be quiet you windbag.

Lilly 28-12-2007 15:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blazey (Post 508531)
Carpet doesnt repel dust people, it simply holds the dust better so it isn't as visible, and if you dont vacuum your carpets everyday anyway then I just find that a little odd. Surely you realise that dust is sloughed human skin, pretty much impossible to avoid in the home? Therefore you'd be vacuuming everyday anyway, the only difference with laminate flooring is that you can see what is coming off you, whereas with carpet you aren't as likely to notice.

Shouldn't be any less cleaning involved, unless of course you just dont class things as dirty if you cant see the dirt.


Thankyou, Kim Woodburn. :rolleyes:

I admit that I don't vacuum every day. I'm just a filth bucket.:p

blazey 28-12-2007 15:58

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 508717)
Thankyou, Kim Woodburn. :rolleyes:

I admit that I don't vacuum every day. I'm just a filth bucket.:p

Is Kim the woman off how clean is your house?

Lilly 28-12-2007 16:00

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 508719)
Is Kim the woman off how clean is your house?

LOL yes, that's the one. :D

panther 28-12-2007 17:30

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 508699)
Have you ever been to my house? No. So please be quiet you windbag.

well if it was owt like your bedroom, then i dont want to....ya muppet!

blazey 28-12-2007 17:51

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 508776)
well if it was owt like your bedroom, then i dont want to....ya muppet!

You need to get a life. You're hardly someone anyone would want to be like. :rolleyes: Besides, you're family hardly did a better job with its equivalent to me. You've got a nephew who can't even manage to get a job and keep it. I might have had a messy bedroom when I was 16, but its hardly got anything to do with vacuuming and mopping has it. I'm not at school anymore :rolleyes:

panther 28-12-2007 17:58

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emmm begining to wonder why you wont say these things to my face........you think you are better than me??......LMAO...get over yourself !!
silly girl

and stop hassling me

blazey 28-12-2007 17:59

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 508792)
emmm begining to wonder why you wont say these things to my face........you think you are better than me??......LMAO...get over yourself !!
silly girl

and stop hassling me

Because I don't need to say them to your face, you already know it yourself.

emamum 28-12-2007 18:08

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i am thinking there are some issues here that really should be sorted privately imo.....sorry if i am sticking my nose in...

jackyalex 29-12-2007 21:48

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i dont hoover everyday i dont have time too, i dont understand why you think its odd not to hoover everyday, some people do eveyday some dont, but its not odd too hoover everyday or not hoover everyday

emamum 29-12-2007 21:49

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Originally Posted by jackyalex (Post 509562)
i dont hoover everyday i dont have time too, i dont understand why you think its odd not to hoover everyday, some people do eveyday some dont, but its not odd too hoover everyday or not hoover everyday


have you been drinking?:confused::D

jackyalex 29-12-2007 21:53

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 509563)
have you been drinking?:confused::D


lol yes, its my birthday i am entitled to a bottle or 2

blazey 29-12-2007 21:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jackyalex (Post 509562)
i dont hoover everyday i dont have time too, i dont understand why you think its odd not to hoover everyday, some people do eveyday some dont, but its not odd too hoover everyday or not hoover everyday

I just think its dirty considering people are aware of how much dirt there actually is on the floor.

jackyalex 29-12-2007 22:09

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i use a laminate floor brush, do you realize the effect it would have on the enviroment if everyone used their hoovers everyday

derekgas 29-12-2007 22:10

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Originally Posted by jackyalex (Post 509565)
lol yes, its my birthday i am entitled to a bottle or 2

Happy birthday to you! Many happy returns.

harwood red 29-12-2007 23:09

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I hardly ever hoover and I have carpets!!!


I have two sons to do it for me :D but even then it's twice a week at most!

katex 30-12-2007 11:25

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Originally Posted by jackyalex (Post 509577)
i use a laminate floor brush, do you realize the effect it would have on the enviroment if everyone used their hoovers everyday

Eeew that's a new one ! Knew there was a reason didn't do it everyday .. LOL.

cashman 30-12-2007 16:35

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Originally Posted by jackyalex (Post 509577)
i use a laminate floor brush, do you realize the effect it would have on the enviroment if everyone used their hoovers everyday

probably a much bigger effect comes from certain peoples gobs.:tongueout

blazey 30-12-2007 17:03

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I do care about the environment, i dont use the kettle :) people use them much more often than a vacuum.


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