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Lilly 30-06-2008 20:51

Re: has the world gone mad.. or is justified?
 
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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 600157)
I though CRB's were put into place because of Huntley??

And i think i read somewhere that he did have a criminal record so wouldnt have got past the CRB check.... now EVERYONE who comes into contact with children... builders (if they are working on a school etc)partners and children of childminders etc.........


The main flaw of the CRB check is that they only check one name.

I remember reading that Ian Huntley fell out with his father so he started calling himself Ian Nixon. Nixon was his mother's maiden name.

He came to the attention of the authorities in the 1990s several times for attempted rape and sexual relations with underage girls all whilst he was going by the name of Nixon.

Shortly before taking the Soham caretaker job he was reconciled with his father so started calling himself Huntley again.

When the school in Soham did the CRB check they only checked the name he gave them which was Ian Huntley.

Had they checked the name Ian Nixon the offences he was investigated for would have come up and he wouldn't have got the job.

I am told that the reason the CRB only check one name is that it would be too costly to check two names, especially where women are concerned as a lot of women have maiden names and it would cost too much to run two checks on everyone who has had two names. Therefore they only check the name a person currently uses.

This is how Huntley slipped through the net. How many more have slipped through the net? We don't know.

I do find it all very sad. Children and decent people are having to suffer for all this obsession with paedophiles. It drives me mad sometimes. :(

emamum 30-06-2008 21:04

Re: has the world gone mad.. or is justified?
 
Given the amount of ID they need to process a CRB they should be able to pick up all names used...

Lilly 30-06-2008 21:10

Re: has the world gone mad.. or is justified?
 
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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 600626)
Given the amount of ID they need to process a CRB they should be able to pick up all names used...

That's true.

You need a lot of I.D don't you?

I had to show my driving licence, birth certificate and passport. :eek:

Boeing Guy 30-06-2008 22:44

Re: has the world gone mad.. or is justified?
 
Really????? When I had mine, Disclosure Scotland administered it, I did it over the web, put my details in paid my £10.00 and a few weeks later had it.
Now getting a UK Airside pass, well that took a bit of time, however if you wanted to it could be faked, fake references are not that hard. I find it crazy that it is so easy to get airside in the UK and bearing that in mind it must be really easy to get a CRB faked

jaysay 01-07-2008 10:01

Re: has the world gone mad.. or is justified?
 
My other half has had to have a CRB check as acts as an exam invigilator at a local Sec Mod, and she is also working as a chaperone on film and tv sets for young up and coming child actors as well as working as an extra, she's working on Waterloo Road at the Moment or was last week.

WillowTheWhisp 01-07-2008 17:18

Re: has the world gone mad.. or is justified?
 
I had to produce loads of ID for mine but only my present name was checked even though they have access to the others - they don't do it in order to cut costs. How mad is that?

Stanleymad 04-10-2008 13:48

Re: has the world gone mad.. or is justified?
 
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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 600615)
The main flaw of the CRB check is that they only check one name.

I am told that the reason the CRB only check one name is that it would be too costly to check two names, especially where women are concerned as a lot of women have maiden names and it would cost too much to run two checks on everyone who has had two names. Therefore they only check the name a person currently uses.

Really? I have had a few CRB checks either standard & enhanced dependant on the position i hold, ALL of names used former & currently are on & have been checked - it states so, which is brilliant:D, mind u ive nothing to hide & prefer it that way but wonder about those that dont disclose other names used or former ones:confused:

derekgas 04-10-2008 16:26

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It is a mad world, I used to run 2 adult football teams, when I was asked to start one for youngsters, I decided against it, this was because of the many convictions of priests, schoolteachers and the like, without the help of a woman, I was not prepared to put myself in a position where people MIGHT think I had ulterior motives, and that was around 8 years ago, I would definately help a child who seemed lost, but would have the same fears and misgivings about it as some have already said!


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