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lancsdave 16-11-2008 19:51

Question For Engineers/Metal Workers
 
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I want a flange/pipe thing made to a specific size. The most similar thing I can find is one in the picture attached,but I would want the pipe part to be thicker metal. Would I be able to go anywhere locally and ask them to make me one ?

Neil 16-11-2008 19:53

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What is it for and what size is it?

lancsdave 16-11-2008 19:55

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It's to be part of a heat press.

Neil 16-11-2008 19:58

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I used to use this firm

Jig Boring Services Ltd
Ordnance Street
Blackburn
Lancashire
BB1 3AE
United Kingdom

Telephone: 01254 680143
Fax: 01254 681435

I can't for the life of me remember the name of the owner at the moment. It will come back to me. Give them a call. Always good quality from them. He will make you anything from a fag packet sketch.

lancsdave 16-11-2008 19:59

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 651459)
I used to use this firm

Jig Boring Services Ltd
Ordnance Street
Blackburn
Lancashire
BB1 3AE
United Kingdom

Telephone: 01254 680143
Fax: 01254 681435

I can't for the life of me remember the name of the owner at the moment. It will come back to me. Give them a call. Always good quality from them. He will make you anything from a fag packet sketch.


Cheers Neil

lancsdave 16-11-2008 20:02

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I.O.U. karma, have to spread myself around a bit first :)

K.S.H 16-11-2008 20:09

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Try K Supplies (Harwood St blackburn - Nr Tesco), they might have what you want in stock if its a standard size or do you need something making to your own spec?

lancsdave 16-11-2008 20:12

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Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 651470)
Try K Supplies (Harwood St blackburn - Nr Tesco), they might have what you want in stock if its a standard size or do you need something making to your own spec?


I think I might have to have something made because of the bolt holes, I need them to be in the same place as the part thats on now. Will try them first and see if they have anything to match though. Cheers.

david1 16-11-2008 20:16

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you need to take a drawing with sizes and thickness and bolt holes dia and positions , or you could take the old part to measure of if there is one . also tell them which material you want it made from .:)

K.S.H 16-11-2008 20:18

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What diameter is it and how many bolt holes/ I'll have a look tomorrow but not sure if we'll have anything

K.S.H 16-11-2008 20:27

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Just found THESE - might be worth asking there too if stainless will do the job
HERES the flange link

Neil 16-11-2008 20:30

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 651459)
I used to use this firm

Jig Boring Services Ltd
Ordnance Street
Blackburn
Lancashire
BB1 3AE
United Kingdom

Telephone: 01254 680143
Fax: 01254 681435

I can't for the life of me remember the name of the owner at the moment. It will come back to me. Give them a call. Always good quality from them. He will make you anything from a fag packet sketch.

Yuk I quoted my self.

Ask for Terry ( Winstanley ). If you have the old part he will copy if for you - don't forget to mention what is wrong with it or you will have two faulty parts :D

lancsdave 16-11-2008 20:43

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Hopefully with the help of the attached photos I'll explain it better.

In the first photo you can see that the white part with the upright is a single cast piece, that holds the silver post, ( the post is attached to a heat press so theres a lot of weight there ).

As you can see in the second photo the part has literally snapped ( I didn't realise how strong I was :D )

My idea is that if I get a piece made with the flange and a bigger upright I can just slot the upright piece in to it and it should do the job.

Any further advice is most welcome and cheers for the help so far.

lancsdave 16-11-2008 20:45

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The measurements are flange 110mm and upright 75mm

david1 16-11-2008 20:50

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Only thing i can think of is its going to have to be made of steel , and its going to have to be hardened .

katex 16-11-2008 20:57

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Originally Posted by david1 (Post 651519)
Only thing i can think of is its going to have to be made of steel , and its going to have to be hardened .

Just love these macho threads .. :)

lancsdave 16-11-2008 21:00

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 651523)
Just love these macho threads .. :)


I was actually about to domesticate it, I was going to suggest I get the steel and ask Mel to stick it in a pan and pretend she was boiling an egg, it would definatley be reinforced steel when it comes out :D

K.S.H 16-11-2008 21:02

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Looks like your going to have to get that made specially I think, I was thinking of pipe flanges and there not usually so deep, we deffo won't have anything like that

katex 16-11-2008 21:04

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 651524)
I was actually about to domesticate it, I was going to suggest I get the steel and ask Mel to stick it in a pan and pretend she was boiling an egg, it would definatley be reinforced steel when it comes out :D

Hope she's not looking in ..:rolleyes:

Carry on guys .. can't help of course.

lancsdave 16-11-2008 21:07

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Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 651526)
Looks like your going to have to get that made specially I think, I was thinking of pipe flanges and there not usually so deep, we deffo won't have anything like that

I suspected as much :(. Cheers Ken

Neil 16-11-2008 21:09

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What is it made of?

lancsdave 16-11-2008 21:11

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What is it made of?

Well it looks and feels like metal, thats the extent of my knowledge :D

david1 16-11-2008 21:14

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Is it steel or brass ?

lancsdave 16-11-2008 21:18

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Originally Posted by david1 (Post 651539)
Is it steel or brass ?


It looks more like steel but not sure

david1 16-11-2008 21:20

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Thats good , cause you can't harden brass .

steeljack 16-11-2008 21:34

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just a suggestion , check the compatability of the size with a steel-piping handbook , maybe easiest way to go is a welding a schedule 80 stub onto a long-neck flange ( all depends on the diameter ) welding time is a lot cheaper than machine shop time ......good luck

Mick 16-11-2008 21:39

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Give the Training 2000 in blackburn a ring they have welders and turners there and will do one off for a small fee when i was there i made a pair of 5ft long car ramps and a set of axil stands for someone they only charged £30 for the lot as its practice for them on training.
not sure if they still do it as its a while ago but worth a go

Neil 16-11-2008 21:51

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 651560)
just a suggestion , check the compatability of the size with a steel-piping handbook , maybe easiest way to go is a welding a schedule 80 stub onto a long-neck flange ( all depends on the diameter ) welding time is a lot cheaper than machine shop time ......good luck

We don't know what schedule 80 is in the UK. Except those of us that have to work on some abysmal American equipment, went to the moon my backside.

Neil 16-11-2008 21:54

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 651542)
It looks more like steel but not sure

It does not look like steel. See if a magnet sticks to it. If it does I can weld it back together for you. I suspect it is some nasty aluminium type casting.

A couple of years ago I could have had that welded back together again for you. Come to think about it I still might be able to.

lancsdave 16-11-2008 21:59

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 651576)
It does not look like steel. See if a magnet sticks to it. If it does I can weld it back together for you. I suspect it is some nasty aluminium type casting.

A couple of years ago I could have had that welded back together again for you. Come to think about it I still might be able to.


Looks like your'e right Mr Expert :D. Magnet says NO, so must be aliminium.

Neil 16-11-2008 22:03

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It looked too hefty to be steel. It will be heavy in steel as well. You would not need the bit the tube fits into to be as thick though.

How soon are you after it sorting out?

lancsdave 16-11-2008 22:09

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 651587)
It looked too hefty to be steel. It will be heavy in steel as well. You would not need the bit the tube fits into to be as thick though.

How soon are you after it sorting out?

ASAP :D

I've sent a mail to the people who sell the presses asking if they supply parts so will have to wait until tomorrow to see if they answer before I do owt else.

steeljack 16-11-2008 22:12

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 651571)
We don't know what schedule 80 is in the UK. Except those of us that have to work on some abysmal American equipment, went to the moon my backside.



sorry to disappoint , but have yet to hear of any oil facility,oil or gas line anywhere in the world that has been built to any other pipe standard than the "abysmal American" one .

understand 'metric' sizes are being used on plastic sewer lines and maybe small bore domestic tubing . ;) :D

Neil 16-11-2008 22:38

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 651596)
sorry to disappoint , but have yet to hear of any oil facility,oil or gas line anywhere in the world that has been built to any other pipe standard than the "abysmal American" one .

understand 'metric' sizes are being used on plastic sewer lines and maybe small bore domestic tubing . ;) :D

It was the abysmal machine not pipe sizes I was talking about.

churchman phil 18-11-2008 22:18

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Don't just jump at the first engineers you find either - shop around. At the place I work, if we require anything made in the engineering sector, the same job can be quoted by two or three different firms with anything up to 70% difference in price from the cheapest.

Part looks like an aluminium casting so a steel replacement should be ideal. Should be easily turned too. Most firms have a minimum order price of around £25 for a one-off job but I'd say around £40 - £50 for the part you want (But don't quote me!!)

lancsdave 20-11-2008 10:46

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 651503)
Ask for Terry ( Winstanley ). If you have the old part he will copy if for you -

All sorted now thanks to your contacts Neil ( he wouldn't admit to being a friend no matter how hard I pushed him, wonder why :D )

Actually Terry has now retired and his son runs the business, but he happened to be in this week because his son is on holiday. Nice bloke to deal with.

Tried to give you karma again but it says I have given too much out in the last 24 hours. Have the rules changed ?


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