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jaysay 30-12-2008 16:11

Speeding-limiting cars
 
The Governments Transport Advisors have said that speed-limiting devices should be fitted to cars on a voluntary basis, to help save lives and cut carbon emissions, according to a new report.

It appears the system works on GPS and automatically regulate your speed required on that particular road your driving on at the time. All we'll need now is to be able to program the car to where we're going, then let it get on with it whilst we have a kip in the back seat:rolleyes:

K.S.H 30-12-2008 16:13

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Cause more accidents, tail-backs and road rage than there is now thats why they haven't fitted them before now - limiters, not the kipping in the back seat :)

K.S.H 30-12-2008 16:17

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 664324)
All we'll need now is to be able to program the car to where we're going, then let it get on with it whilst we have a kip in the back seat:rolleyes:

Were nearly there, got the technology in place and being used to keep you between the white line, brakes applied if you get too close to the car in front, got the sat nav, all you need is something to steer it :D

SPUGGIE J 30-12-2008 16:19

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Still not going to improve driving standards. :mosher:

panther 30-12-2008 17:05

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Simple, make cars that CANT go fast:rolleyes:

SPUGGIE J 30-12-2008 17:08

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 664352)
Simple, make cars that CANT go fast:rolleyes:

Do that and Jeremy Clarkson will have a hairy fit. :p

cashman 30-12-2008 18:00

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drive n old banger like me, no chance getting done speeding, problem solved, who needs technology?:D

Less 30-12-2008 18:09

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 664324)
The Governments Transport Advisors have said that speed-limiting devices should be fitted to cars on a voluntary basis, to help save lives and cut carbon emissions, according to a new report.

It appears the system works on GPS and automatically regulate your speed required on that particular road your driving on at the time. All we'll need now is to be able to program the car to where we're going, then let it get on with it whilst we have a kip in the back seat:rolleyes:

Well in that case, why give us a choice? Manufacturers make cars to suit many peoples pockets, choice and circumstances.

Let's all just be given a choice of one car manufactured to Government specifications that no matter how luxurious only travels like any one else's,

or
We could insist that all cars are banned and we actually do invest in public transport that is worth while.

I don't have a car at the moment and if I got one it would probably be a low powered run of the mill shed, but why on earth should a super dooper state of the art vehicle that costs most of our wages combined be restricted by anything other than the Countries speed limits?
:confused:


cashman 30-12-2008 18:16

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 664375)
Well in that case, why give us a choice? Manufacturers make cars to suit many peoples pockets, choice and circumstances.

Let's all just be given a choice of one car manufactured to Government specifications that no matter how luxurious only travels like any one else's,

or
We could insist that all cars are banned and we actually do invest in public transport that is worth while.

I don't have a car at the moment and if I got one it would probably be a low powered run of the mill shed, but why on earth should a super dooper state of the art vehicle that costs most of our wages combined be restricted by anything other than the Countries speed limits?
:confused:


never happen less, those who own the super doopers, pull the strings.

Less 30-12-2008 18:26

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 664378)
never happen less, those who own the super doopers, pull the strings.

AND,

They never go through the voluntary channels they invent to restrict the rest of us,

Ah, I see, how naïve I was in my earlier post, in that case I'll go for the most powerful car I can afford and put two fingers up at such 'voluntary', schemes!
:(

katex 30-12-2008 18:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 664375)
Well in that case, why give us a choice? Manufacturers make cars to suit many peoples pockets, choice and circumstances.

Can over-ride it Less if installed.

Let's all just be given a choice of one car manufactured to Government specifications that no matter how luxurious only travels like any one else's,

Will never, ever happen.

or
We could insist that all cars are banned and we actually do invest in public transport that is worth while.

Again, will, never, ever happen .. most people not interested in public transport seemingly re: congestion charge.

I don't have a car at the moment and if I got one it would probably be a low powered run of the mill shed, but why on earth should a super dooper state of the art vehicle that costs most of our wages combined be restricted by anything other than the Countries speed limits?

Nothing to do with speed, just the acceleration that is cool.

:confused:


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Less 30-12-2008 18:34

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Originally Posted by Katex
Well in that case, why give us a choice? Manufacturers make cars to suit many peoples pockets, choice and circumstances.

Can over-ride it Less if installed.

Let's all just be given a choice of one car manufactured to Government specifications that no matter how luxurious only travels like any one else's,

Will never, ever happen.

or
We could insist that all cars are banned and we actually do invest in public transport that is worth while.

Again, will, never, ever happen .. most people not interested in public transport seemingly re: congestion charge.

I don't have a car at the moment and if I got one it would probably be a low powered run of the mill shed, but why on earth should a super dooper state of the art vehicle that costs most of our wages combined be restricted by anything other than the Countries speed limits?

Nothing to do with speed, just the acceleration that is cool.
So basically you agree with me? I was using sarcasm what was your reason for repeating my point, (unless you thought it necessary to explain for the benefit of my Troll).
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Retlaw 30-12-2008 19:19

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 664371)
drive n old banger like me, no chance getting done speeding, problem solved, who needs technology?:D

Thats two old bangers then
:hehetable

Retlaw.

katex 30-12-2008 19:28

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So basically you agree with me? I was using sarcasm what was your reason for repeating my point, (unless you thought it necessary to explain for the benefit of my Troll).
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Didn't recognise your comments as sarcasm Less, thought you may actually have been serious .. oh well, lak-a-day slipping up, must sharpen up ..


Anyway, missing your attention .. :D

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entwisi 30-12-2008 23:12

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As mentioned, its being quoted as voluntary,

I'd love to see them try it, its just not a viable plan and shows just how out of touch in reality these muppets really are. They make so much money on insurance tax, car tax, VAT ( on sales and servicing etc) that premium cars are a total cash cow for them, to remove any desire or reason to drive a premium product would be fatal to teh UK economy.

Royboy39 30-12-2008 23:31

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 664459)
As mentioned, its being quoted as voluntary,

I'd love to see them try it, its just not a viable plan and shows just how out of touch in reality these muppets really are. They make so much money on insurance tax, car tax, VAT ( on sales and servicing etc) that premium cars are a total cash cow for them, to remove any desire or reason to drive a premium product would be fatal to teh UK economy.

I agree....I have a motor which is capable of doing 130 mph.
I dont do it....What annoys me is the young speed merchants who think they can drive....but dont know how to stop.
Driving on the middle lane of the motorway at a constant speed can be the accident waiting to happen.
Never mind regulating the speed limit of existing motors...Make the driving test and the application of it more of a qualification than a result.

cashman 30-12-2008 23:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 664459)
As mentioned, its being quoted as voluntary,

I'd love to see them try it, its just not a viable plan and shows just how out of touch in reality these muppets really are. They make so much money on insurance tax, car tax, VAT ( on sales and servicing etc) that premium cars are a total cash cow for them, to remove any desire or reason to drive a premium product would be fatal to teh UK economy.

The Economy aint DEAD?:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: mind ya that spamming cow on general chat,don't think so.

jaysay 31-12-2008 09:25

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What has always surprised me is why they actually make cars that do 140mph 150mph 160mph. when the fastest anybody can legally drive is 70mph.:confused::confused::confused:

jaysay 31-12-2008 09:28

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 664468)
The Economy aint DEAD?:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: mind ya that spamming cow on general chat,don't think so.

Think she must have been deleted cashy, while I've been in bobos:rolleyes:

entwisi 31-12-2008 09:43

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Few reasons that immediately spring to mind

one, a car that could 'just' do 70 will be slow getting there. There are no limits on acceleration ( and in fact this is what gives a greater thrill than just doing say constant 100 )

if you needed to accelerate at 70 to get out of way of something then you wouldn't be able to.

There are many places where drivers can exceed 70 ( Track Days, Autobahns etc )

Not many people stick to 70 even on motorways ( from someone who spends 2.5 hours a day on them ) and even most traffic plod think 70 is unrealistic in todays cars, 70 was brought in when the average family saloon did exactly what you suggest, about 70-80 top speed, your average family saloon is now capable of 120+ and twice the mpg and god knows teh levels of safety. Then we get into the improvements in brakes, suspension, tyres etc. drive a 2008 basic 1.6 Focus/Astra at 80 then get in a 1960's Austin cambridge and try doing 60, I bet you the latter will feel 1000x more dangerous.

Prestige - like it or not we humans are vain creatures, to some its the latest designer clothes, to some its the biggest flashiest TV, to others its cars, in your world there would be only basic clothing, one size of TV, one type/size of house etc, you soon see how silly it becomes when you apply teh same logic across our whole life.

I can understand that a non petrolhead wouldn't understand it just like I don't 'get' spending hundreds of pounds on a pair of jeans when I can buy perfectly good pair for under 20.

K-P 31-12-2008 10:09

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I used to ahve a limiter on a lorry I drove.. a big old dodge that had a double clutch and limited to 55mph (never knew why) and it was as frustrating as hell .... long hill out of barrow was a great place to free wheel to 70-80 :)


Nowerdays in my car I stick to speed limits in towns and the like.

On moterways I do 80 minimum and rare over 90.. genrally 80

When traffic comes close to a moterway polce car they all slow down to 70 and it causes problems... i try to shoot past at 80+ .. the police dont give me a second look but you know all the other drivers are thinking... whys the copper not chasing him..

Police when cruising do 70 ..99% of drivers either sit behind or pass at 72 MPH until out of sight then speed up

Oh and at 80 on the moterways theres always more cars pass me than me pass others.

katex 31-12-2008 14:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 664506)
Few reasons that immediately spring to mind

one, a car that could 'just' do 70 will be slow getting there. There are no limits on acceleration ( and in fact this is what gives a greater thrill than just doing say constant 100 )

if you needed to accelerate at 70 to get out of way of something then you wouldn't be able to.

Can't make my mind up about this one. If everybody slowed their speed down on the motorway and operated a uniform speed, then you would not get the traffic hold-ups that are there are now, so could be quicker in the long run.

Whilst overtaking, you should not put yourself in a position which necessitates you going any faster than the limit on a particular stretch of road anyway. The fact that you would have to speed up suggests that you have not allowed enough stretch of clear road to do so in the first place, and by increasing your speed would make any collision more tragic.

Could help a little when you are caught doing a little over the limit and obtain points for a say 36 mph in a 30 zone (which I did .. but wasn't concentrating properly at the time). This was bad anticipation and the speed restriction would anticipate it for you, as well as not losing concentration from watching your speedometer all the time.

Lots of accidents in rural areas are caused by boy racers, but mainly due to their acceleration going up to 30 mph.

Think, at the end of the day, is a matter of educating drivers into better overtaking, speeding, etc., but this has been tried for years now, and still many accidents due to speeding.

It is a suggested for it to be voluntary and can be over ridden, but must admit, don't think I would volunteer at the moment.. :o

entwisi 31-12-2008 14:53

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I'd disagree,
firstly the minute you take control of something humans naturally 'switch off' this could lead to people paying even less attention to whats happening around them than they do now.

The young lad syndrome is rarely about acceleration as insurance costs alone keep them in low power cars, their accidents are usually through trying to carry too much speed for the car and conditions. e.g. if it takes you 15 seconds to get to 60 you don't want to slow down any more than necessary :D

You're last but one comment puzzles me TBH, once you pass your test what eductaion or training is there for you? Very little. If this Gov really had road safety at its heart then regular retests would be a simple way of raising driving standards. Unfortunately there is more chance of me winning Hyndburn hunks than that ever happening! :D




Life is far too random to say that you shoul d never find yourself in a position that you need to accelerate out of harms way. I've been in a few situations through no fault of mine where I couldn't avoid it ( example, riding in the outside lane of a busy motorway, car joins from slip road and just careers straight across and was coming into my space with teh driver oblivious to me being there. I had a car about 10 foot behind me so if I braked he would have taken me off, a car in front of me but as I'd left a decent space I could accelerate actually into the gap between him and teh car to his left as if I was filtering, as we were all sat at 70 what could I have done if I hadn't been able to get out of teh way? )

katex 31-12-2008 15:25

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These are not strictly the points I put forward Entwisi.

Don't think it will lead to more drivers 'switching off' if that is what they do now anyway.

Even in low powered cars ... still boy racers take off more quickly than considerate drivers and yes they do not/care not take note of the conditions of the road. Was talking mainly in 30 zones.

Agree re. extra education for drivers .. meant that there has been many advertising campaigns in the past to avert speeding which may have had some effect for those who wish to take note, but not wholly successful.

Have been in situations on the motorway myself in which you describe .. was just concentrating on the overtaking. Does seem to me that even though there will be an over-ride button .. would have to be exceptionally sharp to operate it.

Like I said, not convinced myself .. just good to get other people's opinions.

Will not reply to your comment re. Hyndburn Hunks... LOL.


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