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SPUGGIE J 08-02-2009 09:26

Political Arguments
 
There seems to be of late a fair amount of politicaly based exchanges on here. So do we need to seperate it or just go with the flow as at the moment?

flashy 08-02-2009 09:29

Re: Political Arguments
 
speaking from a political point of view (NOT) i reckon we should have a section for political issues, but then again everyday life is full of politics, everything we do involves politics....so what would be the point of another section?




i know what i mean in mi head :D

garinda 08-02-2009 09:34

Re: Political Arguments
 
As long as it's kept in General Chat, home of all serious subjects, I don't see the problem.

As Flashy says, politics is part of everyday life.

If you can't stand all the political banter, you can chose not to read it, and just ignore it, as I do.

:D

SPUGGIE J 08-02-2009 09:50

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I get a good laugh and chip in some useless comment now and again. It is part of every day life an I was curious more than anything else. Being a Sunday morning I have these odd ideas. :eek:

cashman 08-02-2009 10:37

Re: Political Arguments
 
general chats fine fer it, part of life to me.:)

Gayle 08-02-2009 11:12

Re: Political Arguments
 
I like it - I don't understand half of it but I'm always happy to be educated. :D

What I don't like about it is the personal insults - usually between Andrew and Graham - it's unnecessary in a debate to resort to calling each other names.

cashman 08-02-2009 12:09

Re: Political Arguments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 677226)
I like it - I don't understand half of it but I'm always happy to be educated. :D

What I don't like about it is the personal insults - usually between Andrew and Graham - it's unnecessary in a debate to resort to calling each other names.

agree have noticed though,the same person usually starts it.:rolleyes:

lancsdave 08-02-2009 12:29

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Like all politicians they usually get personal because thats how politics works, ignore the issues attack the opposition.

It would also be good if local issues were kept local and not 'hijacked' by those with no local interest :rolleyes:

blazey 08-02-2009 15:09

Re: Political Arguments
 
Party politics is avoidable to an extent but you'll never avoid politics completely.

I personally think it would just cause unnecessary work for the mods because they'd have to keep moving threads around.

shillelagh 08-02-2009 16:45

Re: Political Arguments
 
As i told graham jones - i dont do politics - its against my religon .... and he said ballcocks!!!

Eric 08-02-2009 16:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 677180)
As long as it's kept in General Chat, home of all serious subjects, I don't see the problem.

As Flashy says, politics is part of everyday life.

If you can't stand all the political banter, you can chose not to read it, and just ignore it, as I do.

:D

Being a tad disingenuous aren't we:D

jaysay 09-02-2009 10:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 677335)
Being a tad disingenuous aren't we:D

Rindi disingenuous Eric, never:D Anyway whats disingenuous, hope it ain't catching:rolleyes:

Eric 09-02-2009 17:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 677598)
Rindi disingenuous Eric, never:D Anyway whats disingenuous, hope it ain't catching:rolleyes:

I don't think it's catching .... maybe it's like antidisestablishmentarianism ....

Taggy 09-02-2009 17:50

Re: Political Arguments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 677226)
I like it - I don't understand half of it but I'm always happy to be educated. :D

What I don't like about it is the personal insults - usually between Andrew and Graham - it's unnecessary in a debate to resort to calling each other names.

They're just practising for Prime Ministers Questions.....or was it Punch and Judy...i get mixed up!!:D


Best Regards - Taggy

Bernard Dawson 09-02-2009 19:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 677735)
They're just practising for Prime Ministers Questions.....or was it Punch and Judy...i get mixed up!!:D


Best Regards - Taggy

I think that there is room for debating locally issues, even local issues in a political way.

But that doesn't mean that it has to turn nasty, or personal. We are all entitled to our opinions, even when they are wrong.

Royboy39 09-02-2009 19:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Owen (Post 677778)
I think that there is room for debating locally issues, even local issues in a political way.

But that doesn't mean that it has to turn nasty, or personal. We are all entitled to our opinions, even when they are wrong.

That I have got to agree with...you support your corner, as I do without the intervention of the fence sitters, hopefully.
Local issues are tempered with the overall picture of politics in the UK.
What do local politics mean?....I am at a loss to get my head round them.
Is it that local councillors want to be elected for the good of the community or for the good of number one?.
I have met many councillors in my long life but have never been impressed by one of them.
I was once asked at a function to be upstanding for the Mayor of Blackburn ....my answer was to remain seated....the man was a fool of the highest order.and remained seated.
That was my opinion and thankfully I have got that right....:)

Bernard Dawson 09-02-2009 23:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 677796)
That I have got to agree with...you support your corner, as I do without the intervention of the fence sitters, hopefully.
Local issues are tempered with the overall picture of politics in the UK.
What do local politics mean?....I am at a loss to get my head round them.
Is it that local councillors want to be elected for the good of the community or for the good of number one?.
I have met many councillors in my long life but have never been impressed by one of them.
I was once asked at a function to be upstanding for the Mayor of Blackburn ....my answer was to remain seated....the man was a fool of the highest order.and remained seated.
That was my opinion and thankfully I have got that right....:)

In my experience most Councillors want to be elected for the good of the community,more often than not a community in which they live.

Where the politics comes in, is how you achieve those aims. The Labour Group on Hyndburn Council also have different priorities than the Conservative Group,as can be witnessed by the debate between Graham and Andrew.

National politics often comes into the equation of course, but Local Government is essentially about matching priorities with available resources. Money

Taggy 10-02-2009 08:38

Re: Political Arguments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Owen (Post 677778)
I think that there is room for debating locally issues, even local issues in a political way.

But that doesn't mean that it has to turn nasty, or personal. We are all entitled to our opinions, even when they are wrong.

I'll second that one, debates are beneficial, offensive comments and insults arnt!


Best Regards - Taggy

garinda 10-02-2009 11:56

Re: Political Arguments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 677912)
I'll second that one, debates are beneficial, offensive comments and insults arnt!


Best Regards - Taggy

Hear, hear.

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shillelagh 31-03-2010 20:15

Re: Political Arguments
 
im dragging this up again ... seeing as we got a lot of threads about politics .. and especially as in the next couple of months we will have a general election .. its going to get a lot lot more political probably ..

as i said before i dont do politics its against my religon ..

so howabout it ..

garinda 31-03-2010 22:08

Re: Political Arguments
 
I don't really see the problem, and certainly don't see the need for a separate 'politcal section'.

There's plenty of sections which hold no interest for me, technology for one, so when I check the latest posts it's easy to avoid things I dislike. It's hardly some great hardship.

Personally, what gets on my goat sometimes, is people complaing that there's too many political threads, or whatever subject it is, they dislike.

Go and start a thread which does get your sap rising!

If I see a thread that holds no interest for me, and lots of people are posting in it, I don't feel 'cheated' that they're all scribbling away, when really they should all be posting in a thread I'd also like to join in.

It's like the pathetic little whine of dull children.

'I'm bored, play with me!'

No.

You have no imagination, and therefore I have no desire to spend even a moment helping you overcome your dullness.

Well, that was nice, posting something else...non-political.

:D

Luckily I have the ability, and imagination to post about the price of a tuppence, and exorcisms in the same day. I am blessed.

:D

cherokee 31-03-2010 22:24

Re: Political Arguments
 
I dont get involved in the political threads but I do read them from time to time.

Theres nothing wrong with them and I think its good to have the debates that we see, however what irritates me and it has happened in the past on here are the repetative subjucts, By which I mean we may have three or so threads on exactly the same subjuct, just started by different folk.

Also why get nasty? again the same old same old tit for tat gang.

Just thought Id put my twopennoth in as I aint been around much:D

Eric 31-03-2010 22:26

Re: Political Arguments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 802152)
im dragging this up again ... seeing as we got a lot of threads about politics .. and especially as in the next couple of months we will have a general election .. its going to get a lot lot more political probably ..

as i said before i dont do politics its against my religon ..

so howabout it ..

There isn't much on here that doesn't involve politics, or at least have the possibility of a political dimension. For example, if there is a thread about how wimpy you guys are about snow and ice, someone might bemoan the lack of preparedness of the local, county, and national govts. Politics. You just can't avoid politics. Denying an interest in politics, is itself a political decision, or, a political stance. Looks like you are SOL on this one, hon;):D.

garinda 01-04-2010 00:18

Re: Political Arguments
 
pol·i·tics (phttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/obreve.giflhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/prime.gifhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/ibreve.gif-thttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/ibreve.gifks)
6. (used with a sing. or pl. verb) The often internally conflicting interrelationships among people in a society.
politics - definition of politics by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Every single thread on here could be deemed as 'political'.

The problems only arise when people with poor interrelationship skills, get annoyed when people aren't won over by their arguments.

:D

Eric 01-04-2010 01:36

Re: Political Arguments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 802204)
pol·i·tics (phttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/obreve.giflhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/prime.gifhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/ibreve.gif-thttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/ibreve.gifks)
6. (used with a sing. or pl. verb) The often internally conflicting interrelationships among people in a society.
politics - definition of politics by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Every single thread on here could be deemed as 'political'.

The problems only arise when people with poor interrelationship skills, get annoyed when people aren't won over by their arguments.

:D

I have to agree with you (well, I don't have to; but I am swayed by your argument;)) .... but isn't "poor interrelationship skills" a tad euphemistic? "Idiots" and "assholes" are perfectly appropriate terms ... and a touch more direct.:mosher:

Neil 01-04-2010 07:13

Re: Political Arguments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 802152)
so howabout it ..

No

would be the short answer.

The more sections we have the harder it becomes for people to decide where to post things.

Political threads fit easily into General Chat, Questions or Anything Goes so there really is no need for a seperate forum for them.

garinda 01-04-2010 07:16

Re: Political Arguments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 802231)
No

would be the short answer.

The more sections we have the harder it becomes for people to decide where to post things.

Political threads fit easily into General Chat, Questions or Anything Goes so there really is no need for a seperate forum for them.

Could you not stretch out the short answer a little?

For example...

N-n-n-n-n-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o.

:D

Neil 01-04-2010 07:34

Re: Political Arguments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 802232)
Could you not stretch out the short answer a

No :p

jaysay 01-04-2010 09:28

Re: Political Arguments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 802236)
No :p

You've become so abrasive since you became a mod:D

Neil 01-04-2010 09:32

Re: Political Arguments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 802283)
You've become so abrasive since you became a mod:D


Shuttit or I will delete some more of your posts :p:D

jaysay 01-04-2010 10:18

Re: Political Arguments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 802287)
Shuttit or I will delete some more of your posts :p:D

Bully:whip::spank::D

garinda 01-04-2010 10:21

Re: Political Arguments
 
Oh dear, have people been making 'vile and vicious attacks' on here again?

The poor mods. Their job is already difficult enough.

:rolleyes::D

MargaretR 01-04-2010 10:22

Re: Political Arguments
 
So this thread is an argument about whether we should have political argument threads:confused:

..is there a shortage of news today?

jaysay 01-04-2010 10:24

Re: Political Arguments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 802321)
So this thread is an argument about whether we should have political argument threads:confused:

..is there a shortage of news today?

There'll be a shortage of news until about the 20th of May Margaret:rolleyes:

garinda 01-04-2010 10:24

Re: Political Arguments
 
Debate, Margaret.

Debate.

;)

garinda 01-04-2010 10:30

Re: Political Arguments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 802321)
So this thread is an argument about whether we should have political argument threads:confused:

..is there a shortage of news today?


Nice of you to pop in.

How're you keeping?

Quiet day on weareruledandcontrolledbyevillizards.com?

:p:D:p

jaysay 01-04-2010 14:56

Re: Political Arguments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 802325)
Nice of you to pop in.

How're you keeping?

Quiet day on weareruledandcontrolledbyevillizards.com?

:p:D:p

Thanks for the Link Garinda, great site that :D:rolleyes:

shillelagh 01-04-2010 17:11

Re: Political Arguments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 802283)
You've become so abrasive since you became a mod:D

agree with that jaysay ... now do you think we should give him negative karma .. he dont like that .. :D:D:D

jaysay 02-04-2010 09:46

Re: Political Arguments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 802459)
agree with that jaysay ... now do you think we should give him negative karma .. he dont like that .. :D:D:D

:eek::eek::eek: negative karma, there would be to many far reaching retributions Jen:rolleyes::D

yerself 03-04-2010 10:13

Re: Political Arguments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda
Luckily I have the ability, and imagination to post about the price of a tuppence, and exorcisms in the same day. I am blessed.

Where do you atheists go to receive your blessings?:D:rolleyes:

garinda 03-04-2010 10:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yerself (Post 802885)
Where do you atheists go to receive your blessings?:D:rolleyes:

Mother Nature did it, at the altar of the Church of the Poisoned Mind.

;)


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