Accrington Web

Accrington Web (https://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/index.php)
-   Questions and Answers (https://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f66/)
-   -   TV channels disappearing. (https://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f66/tv-channels-disappearing-49314.html)

mothernature 09-09-2009 09:27

TV channels disappearing.
 
Does anyone have any idea why 4 of the main channels on my TV are going off at 12.30am for the previous 3 nights? At the same time most of the channels (which are through a Freeview box) on my other TV are also off. Both TV's are run from different aerials so that isn't the problem. Is there some maintenance work going on besides getting ready for digital switchover. All the channels reappear by morning.

yerself 09-09-2009 09:31

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Due to work on the Winter Hill transmitter in preparation for the digital switchover.

jaysay 09-09-2009 10:00

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
BBC 1 was of during the night but it was still on free view

Benipete 09-09-2009 10:06

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
No problems at Benitowers,all working well on Freeview.

Margaret Pilkington 09-09-2009 10:24

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
there have been announcements that there may be breaks in service, due to essential work making ready for the digital switch-over on the 4th of November........I think that it may only affect you if you are viewing on the analogue system......so if you already own a digital box(freeview/sky/etc) then your viewing should be uninterrupted.

jaysay 09-09-2009 10:33

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 743645)
there have been announcements that there may be breaks in service, due to essential work making ready for the digital switch-over on the 4th of November........I think that it may only affect you if you are viewing on the analogue system......so if you already own a digital box(freeview/sky/etc) then your viewing should be uninterrupted.

Both my TVs have built in Freeview Margaret, so they were working okay

LYNX1 09-09-2009 10:40

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 743645)
there have been announcements that there may be breaks in service, due to essential work making ready for the digital switch-over on the 4th of November........I think that it may only affect you if you are viewing on the analogue system......so if you already own a digital box(freeview/sky/etc) then your viewing should be uninterrupted.


My tv has built in freeview but lost a few channels last night...:(

jaysay 09-09-2009 10:52

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LYNX1 (Post 743650)
My tv has built in freeview but lost a few channels last night...:(

Organise a search party from the Railway LYNX they find um fore you:D:D

LYNX1 09-09-2009 12:17

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 743653)
Organise a search party from the Railway LYNX they find um fore you:D:D

You are kidding jaysay that lot can't find their bums with both hands lol

MargaretR 09-09-2009 12:22

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
If your Tv is like mine, and it sounds as though it is, you have the choice of watching via Freeview or the 'ordinary way'
Maybe you were watching the old style channels, and not via freeview.
I am not technically minded - shoot me down in flames if you so wish:D

LYNX1 09-09-2009 12:35

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 743681)
If your Tv is like mine, and it sounds as though it is, you have the choice of watching via Freeview or the 'ordinary way'
Maybe you were watching the old style channels, and not via freeview.
I am not technically minded - shoot me down in flames if you so wish:D

Always watch via dtv Margaret......but new system being installed here so I am putting it down to that.

MargaretR 09-09-2009 12:46

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LYNX1 (Post 743687)
Always watch via dtv Margaret......but new system being installed here so I am putting it down to that.

As a Hyndburn Homes tenant, I am getting the new ariel install too.
Stage 1 - exterior - done
Stage 2 - interior work - done
Stage 3 - activation of new ariel - not yet.

They will be increasing the 'ariel charge' on the rent when they do, so I'm in no hurry. I can't recall the precise sum but think it's about 70odd pence a week

My neighbour tells me that elsewhere on this estate tenants have been told that each block will need a tenant to provide a power supply for an ariel booster - that's adding insult to injury - pay for the ariel and the power so your neighbours can use it:rolleyes:

LYNX1 09-09-2009 12:56

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
My neighbour tells me that elsewhere on this estate tenants have been told that each block will need a tenant to provide a power supply for an ariel booster - that's adding insult to injury - pay for the ariel and the power so your neighbours can use it:rolleyes:[/quote]

Haven't heard that Margaret.....but will have a word with alan downstairs (he knows everything) but I think its a bit iffy asking someone to cough up for that. :D

Retlaw 09-09-2009 13:10

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mothernature (Post 743618)
Does anyone have any idea why 4 of the main channels on my TV are going off at 12.30am for the previous 3 nights? At the same time most of the channels (which are through a Freeview box) on my other TV are also off. Both TV's are run from different aerials so that isn't the problem. Is there some maintenance work going on besides getting ready for digital switchover. All the channels reappear by morning.

All the analogue channels disappeared on the Woodnook relay last night. not ony that but it upset the DVD-Video recorder and I had to reset time and date.

Retlaw.

Less 09-09-2009 13:33

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 743693)
My neighbour tells me that elsewhere on this estate tenants have been told that each block will need a tenant to provide a power supply for an ariel booster - that's adding insult to injury - pay for the ariel and the power so your neighbours can use it:rolleyes:

I went to view a flat before I moved in here, the front door had been badly repaired as had the casing, I asked the person showing me around what had happened and if the door would be replaced.

"Oh well you see, the last tenant had gone on holiday and switched the electric off, this caused the aerial system to stop working so we kicked the door in and turned his power back on, the Landlord says he won't repair the door as it was that tenants own fault."

I decided not to take the flat.
:D

Tealeaf 09-09-2009 16:56

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
This is actually due to a new secret government initiative, which is being piloted in Granadaland. It has been found that there are far too many people on the rock 'n' roll and the like who, instead of going out looking for work, do nowt but stay in bed all day and watch telly all night. Therefore yer telly is being switched off after midnight so you will all be up as the cock crows looking fer jobs.

jaysay 10-09-2009 09:22

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 743771)
This is actually due to a new secret government initiative, which is being piloted in Granadaland. It has been found that there are far too many people on the rock 'n' roll and the like who, instead of going out looking for work, do nowt but stay in bed all day and watch telly all night. Therefore yer telly is being switched off after midnight so you will all be up as the cock crows looking fer jobs.

They don't knock satellite off Tealeaf, so the experiment is failing:D

MargaretR 08-10-2009 19:05

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
There is a way round this booster problem.
The tenant in my block who has been supplied with it
and is paying for the power it uses
has told me the make and model, how it works, and where I can get one.

He has switched it off a few times, causing me to replug into the old ariel that hasn't been removed yet. He says he is switching it off regularly early evening as he goes to bed early. I have only noticed it twice because I don't watch TV very much.

I am hanging back from shelling out a tenner for one because I think Hyndburn Homes should supply one to each tenant. I have mailed them to ask how they propose to resolve the problem.

I can understand and appreciate why he is switching it off. Apart from the cost, although its minimal, there is a principle at stake here
(......and the added factor that the 'mentally challenged' man who lives above him watches TV at high volume during the early hours ;))

We have had no word from HH when the extra rent charge will be added.
We will then be paying over a £1 a week for the use of the ariel which is an inescapable rent charge:(

Retlaw 08-10-2009 20:52

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
[quote=MargaretR;751756]There is a way round this booster problem.
The tenant in my block who has been supplied with it
and is paying for the power it uses
has told me the make and model, how it works, and where I can get one.

He has switched it off a few times, causing me to replug into the old ariel that hasn't been removed yet. He says he is switching it off regularly early evening as he goes to bed early. I have only noticed it twice because I don't watch TV very much.

Surely if he is powering the booster and switching it off at night, then what will you achieve by buying a booster, if the main one is off, theres nothing to boost.
Retlaw.

MargaretR 08-10-2009 21:00

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
The way it was explained to him by the ariel fitter is as follows -
It 'switches on the ariel'
It plugs into your mains supply and has another lead which you plug into one of the 4 outlets in the new socket which leads to the multi ariel.
This is it-
Triax TMPR Power Supply Unit

PS -so I misled you - not a booster - a power supply for the ariel

Retlaw 08-10-2009 21:28

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 751793)
The way it was explained to him by the ariel fitter is as follows -
It 'switches on the ariel'
It plugs into your mains supply and has another lead which you plug into one of the 4 outlets in the new socket which leads to the multi ariel.
This is it-
Triax TMPR Power Supply Unit

PS -so I misled you - not a booster - a power supply for the ariel

I still stand by what I said, if the man turns the power supply off at night to the power supply unit and that unit supplies the other properties, then there will be no signal to apply power to in your property, what you need is to bypass his Triax unit, then you can use your own Triax Power supply Unit.

Like in the old days when water for houses were fed from the top house, if they shut the water off, you were all off.
Thats why all houses are supposed to have their own supply from the street mains and there own stop cock

Retlaw.

MargaretR 08-10-2009 21:45

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
I don't think that this system can be compared to water supply which comes through one pipe, because the exterior cabling (heck of a lot of it) indicates that each of us has a wall socket which is cabled to that ariel -so any one of us has the capacity to switch it on.

Retlaw 08-10-2009 21:59

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 751804)
I don't think that this system can be compared to water supply which comes through one pipe, because the exterior cabling (heck of a lot of it) indicates that each of us has a wall socket which is cabled to that ariel -so any one of us has the capacity to switch it on.

Sorry Margaret, I think you will find that all that cableing goes to his Triax unit, otherwise you would still get a signal when he switches off.
If you look at the aerial there is only one cable running down from the top. All the other cables are from his Triax unit.
Retlaw.

MargaretR 08-10-2009 22:06

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 751805)
Sorry Margaret, I think you will find that all that cableing goes to his Triax unit, otherwise you would still get a signal when he switches off.
If you look at the aerial there is only one cable running down from the top. All the other cables are from his Triax unit.
Retlaw.

I will need to go out to look at it in daylight tomorrow.
From memory, I recall seeing many cables to a large box set on the wall beneath the ariel.
There is so much cabling on this ariel system that it is secured in a bunch with cable ties and the bunch is several inches in diameter - rather unsightly, running all around the exterior walls of the flats.
The ariel is so complex and large that it resembles a mobile phone mast :eek:

Neil 08-10-2009 22:11

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 751793)
The way it was explained to him by the ariel fitter is as follows -
It 'switches on the ariel'
It plugs into your mains supply and has another lead which you plug into one of the 4 outlets in the new socket which leads to the multi ariel.
This is it-
Triax TMPR Power Supply Unit

PS -so I misled you - not a booster - a power supply for the ariel

The aerial does not need power but it sounds like it may have a mast head amplifier that will need the power from the power supply you mention or the power could feed a distribution amplifier in the roof space that then feeds to each flat.

It is crazy that one person can switch of the aerial feed to everyone's flat. The sensible thing to do would be if the person who supply's the power for the amplifier did not pay the 70p per week rent for the aerial.

Out of interest you must have lights inside the stair area of the flats - who supplies the electricity for those lights? It could be you.

MargaretR 08-10-2009 22:20

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 751808)
The aerial does not need power but it sounds like it may have a mast head amplifier that will need the power from the power supply you mention or the power could feed a distribution amplifier in the roof space that then feeds to each flat.

It is crazy that one person can switch of the aerial feed to everyone's flat. The sensible thing to do would be if the person who supply's the power for the amplifier did not pay the 70p per week rent for the aerial.

Out of interest you must have lights inside the stair area of the flats - who supplies the electricity for those lights? It could be you.

The stairwell lights have a seperate meter housed in the flat below mine. The bill is paid by HH.
The man who moved in that flat was most confused at having two meters and we needed to trace back the power cables from the lights so that we could tell which meter he needed to read as his supply.
Maybe they should have considered installing this power supply unit with its connection to that meter - instead they have taken the easy way out.

PS they did not access the roof space during the installation

MargaretR 08-10-2009 22:33

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
pps - this is firm HH are using
The Systems
http://www.dastv.co.uk/commercial/la...php#IRS_System
Each flat has a wall tv socket with 4 places to plug in - the man who has been given this power supply unit has a socket with 4 just like mine. He was told to plug in this gadget in the one at top right.

MargaretR 15-12-2009 13:02

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
The ariel that has been erected for use in the block of flats I live in needs a power supply unit in order to operate.

Only one has been supplied for 12 flats.
The man who has been given it, has to finance the electricity it uses, and quite naturally feels a little put out about it.

There have been several times since the switchover when I have found that he has switched it off.

He knows that I have bought one of my own, but others on this block don't appear to have done so.

The ariel install company have advised him that each flat should have one, but Hyndburn Homes are not doing anything about it.

It does come in handy;) - I know that the man with the official plug in, unplugs it at night, and I only use mine very rarely (don't watch TV much)
Amazing how I no longer have my sleep disturbed by the noise of the TV in the flat under mine:)

What is surprising, is that none of the other 10 residents appear to be complaining.

jaysay 15-12-2009 15:43

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 769950)
The ariel that has been erected for use in the block of flats I live in needs a power supply unit in order to operate.

Only one has been supplied for 12 flats.
The man who has been given it, has to finance the electricity it uses, and quite naturally feels a little put out about it.

There have been several times since the switchover when I have found that he has switched it off.

He knows that I have bought one of my own, but others on this block don't appear to have done so.

The Ariel install company have advised him that each flat should have one, but Hyndburn Homes are not doing anything about it.

It does come in handy;) - I know that the man with the official plug in, unplugs it at night, and I only use mine very rarely (don't watch TV much)
Amazing how I no longer have my sleep disturbed by the noise of the TV in the flat under mine:)

What is surprising, is that none of the other 10 residents appear to be complaining.

I've given up on them Margaret, I'm using my satellite system as they can't provide Sky Multi room,but would like the aerial connecting as a backup for when Sky goes on the blink

Benipete 16-12-2009 07:22

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 769973)
I've given up on them Margaret, I'm using my satellite system as they can't provide Sky Multi room,but would like the aerial connecting as a backup for when Sky goes on the blink

You can always screen live free view through your computer:enough:

jaysay 16-12-2009 08:30

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 770234)
You can always screen live free view through your computer:enough:

It becomes a bit tedious when your used to a 42" screen Beni:D

Benipete 16-12-2009 11:37

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 770251)
It becomes a bit tedious when your used to a 42" screen Beni:D

Some of us can connect to the tv :theband:

jaysay 16-12-2009 15:07

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 770270)
Some of us can connect to the tv :theband:

Thats far to technical for me Beni:D I only know where the on switch is on my PC:rolleyes:

MargaretR 16-12-2009 15:10

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
I have had a word with my neighbour - it seems that the old ariel is not disconnected yet - hence no complaints.

jaysay 17-12-2009 08:45

Re: TV channels disappearing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 770287)
I have had a word with my neighbour - it seems that the old ariel is not disconnected yet - hence no complaints.

I'm still using mine Margaret, as they haven't connected my indoor aerials. I have got permission to keep my satellite dish as DAS can't provide me with the Sky multi-room facility, but I would still like the alternative just in case.

One thing I have found is that since the switch over, The Northwest BBC service keeps going of with the sign No Satellite signal being received, yet if I go into the menu and pick say BBC 1 London or South West there is no problem what-so-ever, anybody else finding this:confused:


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:27.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
© 2003-2013 AccringtonWeb.com