Eastgate Roundabout Annoyance
 

As most of you will be aware of the roundabout in question and probably drive on it at some point.

I would like to see if most people know how it should be used.

The sinario (SP) is you are coming from eastgate and you wish to go to the ASDA.

The question is which lane should you be in. As 70% of people seem to get it wrong (IMO Wrong). I have had to take the incorrect lane as you know the car in front has it all wrong to avoid and possible collision.

Here is some Pics of what I mean.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...7/Eastgate.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a.../Eastgate2.jpg

Now IMO you should take the red line, Most seem to take the black line.

So which are you? and would you argee the red line is the correct line to take heading on to hyndburn road? Or have I got it wrong?

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I'm with you on the red one, seen people on the black one and they've gone right round and up Milnshaw lane!
I was taught, unless road markings state otherwise, if your coming off the first exit get in the left lane, for any other exit get in right lane and move to the left once you have past the junction before the one you want to exit from.
But if theres no road markings there they aint doing anything illegal, you can use both
One that really annoys me is the M60/M66 junction, its all colour coded and they still get in the wrong lane

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Red for me also..............i`ve been undercut there many a time......:rolleyes:

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if you are turning left or going straight ahead it is the left lane you shoud be in , if coming down eastgate and going to asda you are turning right and should be in the right hand lane

unfortunatly county councils are unaware of the highway code and have marked many roundabouts out incorrectly and against the highway code so when somone is tought to the highway code and encounters these wrongly marked roundabouts it causes confusion, accy center roundabout isnt marked out but take the roundabouts between the willows pub and queens park hospital for example where the roundabouts have arrows indicating which lane to use they mark out the right hand lane for going straight ahead which is totally wrong and against what is taught by driving instructors so its no wonder people get confused when they approach an unmarked roundabout beause thanx to these morons who plan road markings everyone is been directed to incorrectly use a roundabout

bare in mind %90 of the morons on the roads today dont even bother to indicate their intention or even bother to indicate that they are going to exit a roundabout its pretty much a guessing game on where is safe to put yourself on the bloody things these days

is it any wonder theres such a high rate of collisions on accy center roundabout

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LOL .. have had fun with this one before Mr D. Still have not changed my opinion .. left lane .. :D

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...out-35050.html

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then your wrong twice lol :D

speaking of that exit does anyone else get blinded at night by boy racer morons parked up with their headlights on shining directly into the traffic on the roundabout ?

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If your going to Asda you should be in the Black Lane, if our going to Aldi then you should be in the Red Lane and start indicating left as soon as you pass Hyndburn Rd.

If every one used the correct lanes and their indicators, there should'nt be any accidents.
Its the selfish drivers that want to get there first that cause the problems, you usually pull up behind them at the next traffic lights and they are drumming their hands on the sterring wheel waiting for the light to change.

Retlaw.

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Is this the one Accyman ? :

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Yes I have had this problem to. I also get this from cars that fit them HID Kits (Think its these) from ebay to incorrect lights and the beam patton is all over the place.:(

Seems we have a mixed bag hear on which lane, lets see which is the most popular then I will try to find a independant proffessionals thoughts.:D

So far I get 3 for Red & 2 for Black.

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Highway code, Rule 186
186

Signals and position.
When taking the first exit to the left, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

• signal left and approach in the left-hand lane
• keep to the left on the roundabout and continue signalling left to leave

When taking an exit to the right or going full circle, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

• signal right and approach in the right-hand lane
• keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout
• signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want

When taking any intermediate exit, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

• select the appropriate lane on approach to the roundabout
• you should not normally need to signal on approach
• stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout
• signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want

When there are more than three lanes at the entrance to a roundabout, use the most appropriate lane on approach and through it.


I have marked the rules regarding this cock up in bold:Banane40:

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Right hand lane for me but it should be marked up. If you look at the roundabout from a traffic point of view it should be right lane.

If you used the left then the right lane would only be used by people going to Homebase/Garage and Aldi/the houses in that area. Most of the cars coming down Eastgate are going to either Blackburn Road (left lane) or Hyndburn Road (right lane).

By using the lanes like above you make the best use of both lanes and the roundabout and reduce the tail back up Eastgate.

Its time LCC put some paint on it to show us which lane to use. Then again they would probably get it wrong.

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Left hand lane.

The highway code is a bit flimsy when it gets to straight on (which this is).

While it may be more practical to you in the right hand lane, if there was to be a collision then the person in the left hand lane would be thought of as being in the correct lane by the police & insurance companies.
link

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum.../dg_070540.jpg

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Which is fine when there is even traffic exiting at all lanes. The roundabout in question would not have many cars using the right lane if the above picture was followed.

When there are lightly used exits after half way round like the one we are talking about the lanes should be marked so people with small brains ( and those from outside the area ) know which lane to use. ;)

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To be honest I use it every day and would say black lane..

I was under the impression it was left lane for first 2 junctions and right for others after that, given there is more than 4 exits on this one I assume that the first 3 would be black and the remainder red.... although as a rule, assumption is the mother of all ****up's !!! ;)

Also, if the traffic is busy which it usually is then I use the red lane and nip out in front, for which a lot of you will probably want to shoot me for but when i'm driving 74 miles a day to lytham and back i need to crack on....

Cheers
Lee

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left lane is correct ive seen so many near misses with idiots trying to barge through from right lane!!!

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Looks like the, Black lane is favourite at the moment, any more care to comment?

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I'm with the Black for Asda - Red for Aldi etc.

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Me too - because it's safer - easier to accommodate where the car on the right is planning to go, rather than 'teach the highway code' to a driver on your left

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Or is it because idiots from the left lane are in the way :rolleyes::D:D

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Its not a matter of which is the favourite, its which is the correct one, whether the road has white lines marking lanes or not, the highway code says keep in left lane, common sense should also say keep in left lane for Asda.

Only the selfish & inconsiderate, need to be re-educated back to the level they were first shown as a learner driver.

Retlaw.

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Favorite was reffering to this thred.

I have seen police vehicles take the right lane, happen they also need re-educating.:D

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Them more than anyone, how many people have the killed or injured this year with their We are It attitude.

Then you get them parading up and down with their MPK sub machine guns, at the slightest opportunity, 2 or 3 mags taped together, 32 rounds per mag, who are they expecting John Wayne and the Comancheroes.
Any one who needs so much ammo to down a terrorist needs to learn to shoot. How many innocents will suffer.

Retlaw.

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Has it got anything to do with the traffic coming down from King Street?

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Don't forget there is an exit after Union St and before Hyndburn road.....therefore Hyndburn Road is the 3rd exit.....Thats all I'm gonna say :D

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And the Arndale car park, so its the 4th exit

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Not quite - the 2 King St junctions are one entrance and one exit

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Im with 4th Exit.

1. Arndale Car Park
2. Up Union Street
3. Up whatever street, come out onto king street.
4. Hyndburn Road.

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However described this roundabout is a disastrous MESS

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LOL, Arndale Car Park = 1
Union St = 2
King St = 3
Hyndburn Rd = 4

I'm not counting King St entrance to roundabout :D

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driving instructors as well so it looks like driving instructors and the police need retraining as well:rolleyes:

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Sorry - I overlooked that Union St exit
who in their right mind wants to use that- other than taxis:D

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lol its very rare anyone can use union street because of taxis

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Sorry Margaret an exit is an exit.......that makes Hyndburn Rd the 3rd exit

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You get your mobile out and the sods move..........done it quite a lot......if that fails get out and give them a piece of your mind

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:confused: how come? do you have a machine gun shaped phone?

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Doesn't matter how many exits it has .... it is still within the 180 degrees straight across from the Eastgate exit ... making it a left turn and not a right turn.

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So if Hyndburn road was the last exit and the others were blocked off would the right hand lane never be used by your 180 degree logic?

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Ok, hows about, hyndburn road driving on to union street?

Left lane or right lane?

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Right lane

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What about from Hyndburn Rd going up Eastgate?
bet theres a difference with that one, ME - I go left lane if I want to keep in the left lane on Eastgate, IE turning left or heading for Burnley Rd, I go in right lane if I'm going up Eastgate and want to go in the right lane on Eastgate, IE going towards Avenue Parade or turning right into Whalley Rd

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Is it not left onto Whalley Road?

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Got a copy of the latest Highway Code If anyone wants it and and a safe driving DVD free to a good home.

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I find it easier to take another route and avoid it
avoiding stress is 2nd nature now:D

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Is it not Whalley Rd to your right too?? I'm not sure.

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Safer to catch the bus ...:D:D:D

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If you are coming off the roundabout and then past the tax office Whalley Road is on the left.

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And to your right :D

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...1&d=1255718961

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WELL SAID that is if they have leart properly and actually have a licence. I dont mind being cut up so much when im on my own in the car but when ive got my kids in its a different story

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Even if you are in the right lane if you are turning onto a road with just one lane. you should be in the left lane before turning left, not taking a left turn whilst still in the right lane cutting people up on the left. It is very dangerous this round about, luckily ive got a big van now so dont get cut up half as much. Do it I dare you! haha

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Right.

Left .. could be tempted into right land with as K.S.H as explained above.. carrying on to Manchester Road with great caution... don't think I ever have though. Ya' see .. if you are a stranger .. wouldn't dream of it .. but because we know it .. is tempting to get in the right lane to set yourself up correctly for the next stretch. Just have to hope that no one is on your left wishing to go on the car park or up Union Street emerging from Milnshaw Lane.

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Thats the whole point, once you have gone past the King St exit you move over from the right lane to the left lane, them that are in the correct lane though can't do this because of people hogging the left lane all the way round the roundabout :D

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Yeah sure it is

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...AT_800x524.jpg
http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01...JM_450x450.jpg
http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/20...ES_415x275.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1153/...29f992d92e.jpg

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ROFLMAO.... I wonder which lane they took? :D :D

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Er left hand lane :rolleyes: :D

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grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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if your not into the left lany before you turn go round again

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both lanes as the exit actually has a second lane that filters

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i hate that too!

its just annoying when people use the left lane and just keep on going around the roundabout. its not a motorway that the left lane is for slow drivers...

without decent signage this will carry on

a great roundabout is the whitebirk in blackburn - they've really sorted it out nicely with clear markings and signage.

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Dont let it get you angry.:D

I presume this is going on to Hyndburn road, I was thinking this myself.

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i was always taught - by several people including my advanced driving instructor at the time, that if you come up to a roundabout and want to turn left (or any other turning up to and including the one at a 12 oclock position) then you use the left lane - but anything after the 12 oclock position relative to where you are (and at the eastgate roundabout asda exit is actually at about the 1 oclock position)then you use the right lane and indicate and move left immediately after passing the exit before - which i believe is marked originally as your 'red lane'? the highway code book which someone showed the illustration from earlier is correct for a road that goes straight on from your relative position - whereas the asda turn off isnt in this case. I always go to the inside lane and then the left lane and most people around me seem to as well

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Of course Lynn, your advice was correct, however this turn off is not beyond 12 o'clock. Ok. I used geometry of under 180 degrees to explain this point ... same difference .. but get out your set square and tell me that this is not under 180 degrees or before 12 o'clock.

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What your advisors failed to tell you was that there are many busy marked roundabouts around the UK that are exceptions to this rule due to consideration of, heavy or not, inflowing traffic from the left.

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I see this is a close call.

I like in the picture, orgional and Katex's (Same pic) there are 3 cars all in the right hand lane, wonder how many where going onto hyndburn road.:D

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That will have to be another thread for one of your wonderful mysteries Mr D;):D Just like where are the 3 cars in the right hand lane you mention.. oh hek, been spirited away by aliens LOL. Sorry .. just a bit of fun.. honest. x

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That big red mark in the sky over Accrington is giving me the heebie jeebies :D

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Ok ... changed it to Pink just for you ...not that I really see you as a pink person though :D :-

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Im glad you enjoy my mystery threds.:D

3 Cars in the right hand lane on the roundabout.;)

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It's the red line that you should be following on - because the rule of left hand lane for the first and possibly second exit is right, right hand for everything else. It's clearly the third exit off the roundabout so you should use right.

If you're going the opposite way you should be in the lane that you are going into i.e. left if you're going into the left lane beyond the roundabout and right if you're going in the right lane beyond the roundabout. If the roundabout wasn't there you are basically staying in the lane that you need to be in. This applies when the road is the direct continuation of the road you are on (only with a roundabout obstructing it).

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This one could run and run as all drivers seem to approach any particular hazard differently. I believe that the best way of dealing with a roundabout is to treat it like the face of a clock, the approach road always being 6-o-clock. Any junction prior to 12-o-clock should be approached from the left or nearside lane, any junction beyond 12-0-clock, the right or offside lane. Always works for me.

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Is it :confused:


Arndale Car Park = 1
Union St = 2
King St = 3
Hyndburn Rd = 4

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Even more reason for it to be the right lane then!

I was thinking of King St being one way but you're right it does go both ways.

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:D
The red line on the map should IMHO switch from right lane to left lane as you are going under the viaduct

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Consider if the roundabout was not there, youd be going straight on to asda.

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:D Very true.

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I am a right hand lane user for this one. I had an old aquaintance who was an advanced police driving instructor who always used the right hand lane here. My reasoning is that you are going more than 2 junctions round the roundabout. Before the roundabout was there, it was always a right turn onto Hyndburn Rd. Widening the approach, calling it Eastgate and plonking a big roundabout there does not make it any less of a right turn...:D

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My big roundabout bug bear is the one near the Dunkenhalgh. If you're coming from Accrington and going across to the traffic lights you should get into the lane that you want to be in at the other side of the roundabout. It's a continuation of a road.

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Thred Wander.:D:D

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I think you just have to use caution and common sense here whichever lane you chose to take, and which arm you will be exiting from.

After all, you are not going to get a fixed penalty notice for taking what may be considered as the incorrect lane ... even those that have larger markings. Only when you hit someone whilst manoeuvering into the left lane could you be in trouble ... as someone mentioned, the insurance will not be sympathetic with this.

I just find on the Eastgate roundabout for this particular manoeuver .. you have very little time to move to the left lane so, in my opinion, find it safer to take left lane. Just keep safe everyone, that's what's important. :)

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There is a roundabout in Burnley, at the derby inn/gannow lane area, you come up fro Gannow lane and if you want to go straight on you have to take the right lane because the planners have in their wisdom, marked the left lane as a left filter only lane :(

As for the Eastgate roundabout, as long as your not cutting up someone else, forcing them to slow down etc then it wont really matter. There are greater things in life to worry about.

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I see the problem ... you guys are driving on the wrong side of the road:eek: We are lucky enough not to have those things here .... except maybe in Saskatoon at Five Corners ... of course, we have lots more room and fewer automobiles.