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Mick 16-02-2010 09:42

Should kids be allowed in pubs
 
After a recent incident in the Railway which i am not going to put on here

(if any other member that was there would like to put the details on that's fine )

i was just wondering what your thoughts are about children being in pubs ??
Personally i don't think they should or if they are they should be kept under control not allowed to run around as they please :eek:

BERNADETTE 16-02-2010 09:43

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I think they should be allowed in as long as they are supervised. The problems start when parents let them run wild.

flashy 16-02-2010 09:48

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no i don't think they should be allowed in pubs, i was in one pub on my birthday and a three year old was asleep on one of the chairs, i thought this was pathetic, if a child needs sleep then it should be in bed, not asleep in a pub whilst its grandparents are getting pi$$ed, it made me rather angry

if the pub is also a restaurant then yes but otherwise no, keep them out

Neil 16-02-2010 10:18

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I don't have a problem with it in general terms. Yes they should be supervised so they are not getting in others way.

There is a sign in there saying all kids must leave by 4pm.
I know that so if I don't want to see kids I would go after 4.

I used to think it was bad seeing single parents in pubs with kids in prams. Since the no smoking I don't see it as too much of a problem.

There are a lot of family pubs that encourage kids in. There are pubs that don't allow it as well. I suppose you choose your pub based on that if you don't want to see kids in there.

As someone with young kids it is nice that we can go out as a family, have something to eat and the kids can play at the same time. It can be hard going out when you have children. Not everyone can get babysitters all the time.

Neil 16-02-2010 10:20

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 788200)
no i don't think they should be allowed in pubs, i was in one pub on my birthday and a three year old was asleep on one of the chairs, i thought this was pathetic, if a child needs sleep then it should be in bed, not asleep in a pub whilst its grandparents are getting pi$$ed, it made me rather angry

if the pub is also a restaurant then yes but otherwise no, keep them out

I do agree with you on that Shaz. The children have to come first as they always should.

I don't drink a lot if the kids are with me either. I am usually driving but prefer to know I can still think straight when I have my children to look after.

AccyLass 16-02-2010 10:26

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As long as they are supervised it's fine

I'll be telling Saff what you said Mick :p

flashy 16-02-2010 10:27

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there's a difference between normal pubs and family pubs, men/women don't tend to go in family pubs with their mates for a social drink, when i go out during the day with my mates i like to be able to chill, have a game of pool and a good natter, i don't want screaming kids around peeing me off

Mick 16-02-2010 10:32

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Originally Posted by AccyLass (Post 788206)
As long as they are supervised it's fine

I'll be telling Saff what you said Mick :p

you can do by all means even she sulks in the railway :D:tongueout

AccyLass 16-02-2010 10:36

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Originally Posted by mick (Post 788209)
you can do by all means even she sulks in the railway :D:tongueout

You gonna be mince-meat :p

Neil 16-02-2010 10:38

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 788207)
there's a difference between normal pubs and family pubs, men/women don't tend to go in family pubs with their mates for a social drink, when i go out during the day with my mates i like to be able to chill, have a game of pool and a good natter, i don't want screaming kids around peeing me off

Exactly Shaz, thats why you have to pick one that does not allow children in.

I love kids, but I also like to escape from them for a while as well.

flashy 16-02-2010 10:38

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 788212)
Exactly Shaz, thats why you have to pick one that does not allow children in.

I love kids, but I also like to escape from them for a while as well.

have to agree with you there matey

cashman 16-02-2010 11:00

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in a word NO.:(

Tealeaf 16-02-2010 11:41

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 788217)
in a word NO.:(

I'll drink to that. Keep 'em well away.

I have a point of principle that if I walk into a pub and see one of these little rats in there, I turn around and walk straight out. That is irrespective of what type of pub it is - serving food or not. Pubs and kids do not mix, it's that simple. If I was in charge of local licensing I would withdraw the license from any pub found with kids on the premises. The fact is a pub is a place where adults escape from children. Lets keep it at that.

pipinfort 16-02-2010 12:51

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Tealeaf 16-02-2010 13:00

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Is that Less?

Barrie Yates 16-02-2010 14:05

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 788196)
I think they should be allowed in as long as they are supervised. The problems start when parents let them run wild.

Quite agree Bernie, no problem over here, but there seems to be a far better family attitude over here - parents etc, take responsibility for the behaviour of their children.

MUMMIBOO 16-02-2010 15:58

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Where else would Less go if they stopped kids from going in pubs? you would find him dossing outside the shops with a bottle of cider.

Neil 16-02-2010 16:04

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He does that at as well on Monday, Wednesday,Friday and Sundays.

DaveinGermany 16-02-2010 18:50

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It's another one of those issues that polarises people, some say fine let em in, others are dead against. There are places that manage to balance both sides & for them that's fine as long as rules are in place to accommodate the differing groups.

I certainly wouldn't take kids into A Dockers Alehouse or Workman's Pub even if they did the best food in the District, there'd be to much Scope for conflict. Yet if the Kids are polite & well behaved (having parents who will control their nippers if they're out of line) sitting down together at a table & having something to eat but being out of there before the serious drinking starts I don't see that as a problem.

This happens quite a lot on the continent & we've seen it often enough in Holland, so that no-one bats an eyelid at the kids being there. So really I think it's a matter of Horses for courses really. Plus in todays economic climate, allowing families in with Kids may well be the only thing keeping the landlords head above water, & the Pub from going to the wall.

Gayle 16-02-2010 18:54

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I think pubs should be able to market themselves however they want. So if a pub wants to be purely for drinkers they should be that, if they want to be friendly family then they should be that - I even think that there should be smoker friendly pubs.

That way, the consumer can choose which pub they want to go in. And as long as all the consumers that went in the pubs knew what type of pub it was, they couldn't argue.

cashman 16-02-2010 18:56

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 788380)
think it's a matter of Horses for courses really.

agreed, kids = playing fields, Adults = Public houses.

DaveinGermany 16-02-2010 19:21

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 788385)
agreed, kids = playing fields, Adults = Public houses.

Agreed but a lot of Pubs have Beer gardens with swings & stuff for the little Darlins to play on, because while they're occupied playing Mum & Dad can have a Drink or two & the Kiddllings will be in & out for pop & crisps, so the longer the Landlord can keep them there the more his till klingles. :)

Tealeaf 17-02-2010 15:16

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 788382)
I think pubs should be able to market themselves however they want. So if a pub wants to be purely for drinkers they should be that, if they want to be friendly family then they should be that - I even think that there should be smoker friendly pubs.

That way, the consumer can choose which pub they want to go in. And as long as all the consumers that went in the pubs knew what type of pub it was, they couldn't argue.


Not a bad idea, Gayle. Could I suggest that those pubs which wish to be 'family friendly' should do so by in the first instance, removing the traditional pub sign from outside their premises? In their place, they should stick a big capital 'M' sign, or possibly a piccy of an old boy with a goatee beard and a factory-bred chicken, and then furnish the premises with formica topped tables and bar staff who invariably reply "Enjoy - have a nice day" when completing your order. Oh, and remove their alcohol licence at the same time.

Gayle 17-02-2010 16:25

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 788657)
Not a bad idea, Gayle. Could I suggest that those pubs which wish to be 'family friendly' should do so by in the first instance, removing the traditional pub sign from outside their premises? In their place, they should stick a big capital 'M' sign, or possibly a piccy of an old boy with a goatee beard and a factory-bred chicken, and then furnish the premises with formica topped tables and bar staff who invariably reply "Enjoy - have a nice day" when completing your order. Oh, and remove their alcohol licence at the same time.

Perhaps if you gave the places that had a big capital 'M' sign or a old boy with a goatee beard sign, an alcohol licence, you wouldn't have the complaints that you do about sprogs in pubs.

Although, if that did happen, I would want to ban grumpy old men from any family friendly place.

Neil 17-02-2010 17:12

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 788669)
Perhaps if you gave the places that had a big capital 'M' sign or a old boy with a goatee beard sign, an alcohol licence, you wouldn't have the complaints that you do about sprogs in pubs.

Although, if that did happen, I would want to ban grumpy old men from any family friendly place.

I think its only our strange belief in this Country that booze is evil that stops it. Abroad you get beer in fast food places

Ken Moss 17-02-2010 20:11

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I'm not against it but I am firmly against parents who won't reprimand the little sods for running wild, and this really counts for anywhere.

We live in a blissful world where the PC brigade have forbidden parents to slap children for being naughty. It certainly never did us any harm and I fancy I have a more respectful view of the world than many of the children I see today.

I wonder how quickly many of them would be 'cured' of ADHD after a surprise visit from Dad's Hand? It certainly focused my attention after behaving inappropriately.

shillelagh 17-02-2010 20:48

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but according to a survey done parent s are not disciplining their kids .... they dont want to be seen as being over strict

Modern parents avoid discipline for fear of upsetting their children | Mail Online

Eric 17-02-2010 20:59

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 788236)
Is that Less?

Nah, .... looks too intelligent and too handsome;):D

Eric 17-02-2010 21:09

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I'm sort of ok with kids in bars ... as long as the parents take care to keep a lid on them ... In Ontario, kids are allowed into bars that serve food; but, they have to be gone at 7:00 pm ... that gives the adults plenty of time to get shltfaced ... 7:00 pm 'till 2:30 am .... the group that should not be allowed in bars are the disgusting, drunken, puking, slobbering, attitudinal assholes.

Less 17-02-2010 21:14

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 788728)
the group that should not be allowed in bars are the disgusting, drunken, puking, slobbering, attitudinal assholes.

Are kids optional or compulsory with that group of people?

:p

Tealeaf 17-02-2010 21:31

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 788728)
I'm sort of ok with kids in bars ... as long as the parents take care to keep a lid on them ... In Ontario, kids are allowed into bars that serve food; but, they have to be gone at 7:00 pm ... that gives the adults plenty of time to get shltfaced ... 7:00 pm 'till 2:30 am .... the group that should not be allowed in bars are the disgusting, drunken, puking, slobbering, attitudinal assholes.

In other words, Canada can't work out how to run it's pubs. Why the hell, then, was this country awarded the 2010 Winter Olympics? There is no snow in Vancouver, spectator transport ain't running as it should, competitors are being killed wrapping themselves around lamp posts and the cost of it all as ballooned from C$600m to C$3bn.

I'm quite sure we could have done a better job in Accy back in January.

Eric 17-02-2010 23:27

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 788734)
Are kids optional or compulsory with that group of people?

:p

:confused: No .... I'm talking about kids, If they can't hold their booze, they should be turfed, just like adults:mosher:

Eric 18-02-2010 00:04

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 788744)
In other words, Canada can't work out how to run it's pubs. Why the hell, then, was this country awarded the 2010 Winter Olympics? There is no snow in Vancouver, spectator transport ain't running as it should, competitors are being killed wrapping themselves around lamp posts and the cost of it all as ballooned from C$600m to C$3bn.

I'm quite sure we could have done a better job in Accy back in January.

If you knew anything about Canada, you would know that licensing of pubs has nothing to do with the Canadian govt. .... and if you knew anything about geography, you would know that it rarely snows in Vancouver, and that Whistler is over two hours from Vancouver ... and if that Georgian had been more competent in the sport he entered, he wouldn't have come to an unfortunate sudden stop .... and, with an economy that didn't suffer as badly as most others because we know how to manage our banks and financial institutions, who cares about a few bucks, as long as the party is successful.

jaysay 18-02-2010 09:18

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My parents never took me in a pub, there's plenty of time for visits to the pub when kids are old enough to do so

cashman 18-02-2010 09:30

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 788864)
My parents never took me in a pub, there's plenty of time for visits to the pub when kids are old enough to do so

n ya sure made up fer it.:D

turkishdelight 18-02-2010 09:38

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Never would have taken mine in either, cant see the point not a good place for children in my opinion.

accyman 18-02-2010 09:51

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 788669)
Perhaps if you gave the places that had a big capital 'M' sign or a old boy with a goatee beard sign, an alcohol licence, you wouldn't have the complaints that you do about sprogs in pubs.

Although, if that did happen, I would want to ban grumpy old men from any family friendly place.

you have to be drunk to enjoy a kebab , could you imagine the state of people who wanted to actually enjoy a big mac they would be paraletic :)

ps:

if you want to see a pool team panic stick 50p in your kids hand and send them to teh pool table lol

jaysay 18-02-2010 10:50

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 788873)
n ya sure made up fer it.:D

What you on about cashy I've always been as sober as a judge:rolleyes::rolleyes:
I'll get mi coat:D

Ken Moss 18-02-2010 11:47

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 788718)
but according to a survey done parent s are not disciplining their kids .... they dont want to be seen as being over strict

Modern parents avoid discipline for fear of upsetting their children | Mail Online

My parents beat all three of us when we were naughty and it gave us a healthy view of right and wrong. Moreover, the neighbours thought nothing of giving us a good telling off and then dragging us home for another pasting if they caught us up to no good.

Kids today know very well which words will set alarm bells ringing whether based in fact or not. God bless the compensation culture that has made adults afraid of children through simply uttering the word 'paedophile' or 'assault'.

I'd far rather see a child being given a decent dressing down in public than left to run wild for the 'benefit' of the rest of us thinking they're a good parent.

Taggy 18-02-2010 13:58

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NO!!


Best Regards - Taggy

lindsay ormerod 24-02-2010 19:40

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I have no problem with well behaved, supervised kids in pubs. I have been taking my child (now 14) to pubs for lunches/ special meals etc since she was tiny, she has never caused any trouble and we have never been asked to leave anywhere. A lot depends on your choice of pub I suppose but we stick to child friendly ones. I do agree that badly behaved kids are a nightmare though and witnessed just such an occurrence the other week in one of our fave pubs, I really don't know how the landlord kept his patience!

Benipete 25-02-2010 10:21

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 788864)
My parents never took me in a pub, there's plenty of time for visits to the pub when kids are old enough to do so

Did they leave you out side feeding and wiping down the horses.:hehetable

Barrie Yates 25-02-2010 17:32

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It is not the children that are responsible for bad behaviour - it is the parents, and about time they accepted the responsibility

katex 25-02-2010 18:50

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 791562)
I have no problem with well behaved, supervised kids in pubs. I have been taking my child (now 14) to pubs for lunches/ special meals etc since she was tiny, she has never caused any trouble and we have never been asked to leave anywhere. A lot depends on your choice of pub I suppose but we stick to child friendly ones. the landlord

Exactly Lindsay .. pub/restaurants are a different ball game to pub pubs if you understand.

They cater for families and usually have play areas. I have taken my children to this type on many occasions, which are an excellent compromise between a McDonalds and a restaurant and great value, and gave me a little outing too. Like Neil said ... are a suitable place for the family to get together for social time.

As for taking them in just pubs ... well, no, wouldn't (myself) have been happy with this. Young children get bored quickly with adults chatting to each other and, after consuming their coke and crisps will be curious about their surroundings, therefore wandering off and bugging other 'drinkers'. In my opinion, not their fault they sometimes misbehave.

On the few occasions I have visited a certain pub at lunch have seen customers come in with babies in prams .. and for some reason this doesn't sit comfortable with me either .. perhaps I am old fashioned though. :rolleyes:

DaveinGermany 25-02-2010 19:03

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 791964)
On the few occasions I have visited a certain pub at lunch have seen customers come in with babies in prams .. and for some reason this doesn't sit comfortable with me either .. perhaps I am old fashioned though.

I know there's a problem with under age drinking in UK but, this is a tad extreme isn't it ? :D

No kate not old fashioned, just responsible & thinking the morals & standards of some of the younger generation does get you to pondering.


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