Nouvelle cuisine in Rishton. Help?
 

Returning from a family dinner out in Ramsbottom/Bury way tonight, (Fisherman's retreat, very good,) we were discussing the number of local restaurants which have closed down over the years.

We were talking about one that opened up in Rishton in an old Co-op building, though it could have been Gt. Harwood. Late eighties.

We think the chef/owner was called Wiggington, a local, who'd been trained in London, and later returned north to open a very swishy nouvelle cuisine restaurant.

It was decorated black and white inside, like an eighties Adam and the Ants pop video. Very chic, and probably a bit ahead of it's time, because it only lasted a few years. Lancastrians prefering something a bit more filling than some foam, drizzled with jus, next to an artfully placed flower.

I can only come up with the name Harlequins, but my Ma thinks it had a French name.

Anyone remember?

Please settle the confusion going round in my bonce.

:D

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Pierrot's?

Oh it's bugging me.

:D

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is this the place Auberge, in Rishton

Auberge Restaurant - Traditional English and Continental Dining in Rishton Lancashire.

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No Auberge is still there, in the old bank. and is still successful.

This only existed for a few years, '87/'89?

The food was exquisite, but did, like all fancy dolly food of the time, leave you wanting to go the chippy on the way home.

I was living in London, so was used to eating gold leafed Nasturtiums, and probably only went there once, when I was up visiting, but the name eludes me.

On a side note, nouvelle cuisine was an extreme of it's time, but it did make people realise that you eat with your eyes, as well as your mouth. Nowadays we've moved on, and want good quality ingredients, reasonably price, and well presented. So the eighties fripperies did serve a purpose.

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Re. Food ..Just wish you'd take back to the UK those two British cooks who are never out off US TV, the foul mouthed one and the younger "youf" both complete *******. Pity one of the fat Ladies passed over , could put with them , good food and good stories :D

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Nah, you laud Gordy and Jamie, you keep 'em.

;):D

Talking of Two Fat Ladies, I used to know Jennifer Patterson, or Miss Paterson, as I called her, before she became famous.

I adored her. She used to tootle up through Belgravia on her moped, done up to the nines, but with an old fashioned helmet plonked on her head, and her thick specs. Leave her bike in the middle of Knightsbridge, and then order lots of lovely things for 'her darling boys'. The boys being the Fathers at the London Oratory. She always reminded me of the spoof soap star Sister George, from The Killing of Sister George, played by Beryl Reid.

We used to have a real laugh, and she was charming and eccentric, and pleasure to know. I was really suprised, and happy for her, when fame brought financial stability towards the end of her life.

Past life, blah, blah. But who remembers Rishton's nouvelle cuisine past?

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have no idea of that un, thought Rishton closed in the 70s.:D

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Nobody remembers because only you ever went

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Lol, I went only once. My parents, and their friends went quite regularly.

It was really popular, for a while. At least two or three years.

Someone must have donned their shoulder pads, and got their big hair through their door.

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going back 40 odd yrs Rishton had a late night eatery (popular with Arroders and Rishtoners after the pubs shut at 11 pm ) was notable because it was one of the first in the area to serve "Steak Diane " as a late night snack , (probably thinly sliced schmuck ,quick fried with mushroom gravy) exotic at the time in these parts at the time. :D

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It was a bit pricey, but I really don't think they'd have survived for at least a couple of years, off the one and only visit I made, even though I'm a big tipper.

I love giving those less fortunate than myself tips.

"Blue and green should never be seen, except with something in between."

Have that on me.

;)

:D

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Steely mate chips n peas are exotic in rishton.:D

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Up north we don't care for green beans on the same plate as blueberries, even when arranged artisticly

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:rofl38: Yep , agree thats why the place was classed as "Exotic" :D

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I was always envious when I was a toddler, that my parents had been out for 'chicken in a basket', somewhere in the Ribble Valley.

I was really disappointed a couple of years later, when I chose it, when we'd stopped somewhere on route to our holidays.

It wasn't even a proper basket.

It was plastic.

http://funcraft.com.au/images/T/mini...k%20basket.jpg

:D

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Wonder if Rishtoners still buy their Olive oil at the chemists as a cure for ear-ache , Sure Ken Moss will be able to put us right :D :D

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Oh dear, because I once went on a train, and ventured further south than Watford, does that mean I'm not a 'real' northerner?

Whilst you're hibernating, eating your organic supermarket produce, and rolling your own, there's quite a lot of well used 'fancy' eating places, here in t'north.

Some, like Accrington lad Nigel Haworth's Northcote Manor, even have one of those fancy Michellin stars. Though I believe they only serve a reduced jus of winberries on their beans, prefering to use locally sourced fruits.

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We've still got a bottle of it from the sixties. You don't need more than a drop in a sore lug 'ole. So it lasts for ages.

In 1978 I'd been skiing in Switzerland, and wanted to make a cheese fondue when I returned. The only place in Hyndburn I could find garlic was at a little Polish deli on Avenue Parade.

How tastes have changed.

Now it's should I have a panini or a ciabatta chip butty.

:D

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At the end of the sixties and into the early seventies, I lived and worked far, far away in a place called Clitheroe.

Very up market they knew how to live the life of luxury there.

Just along Lowergate there was a restaurant??? It was run by a Polish couple, (back then not all poles were plumbers), we would head to this den of culinary delight after closing time, and be served with some of the best bangers and mash ever to be found on British soil.
It wasn't a trendy theme sort of a place, it was a very large wooden hut, food was served on tin plates, and the scars still remain from the splinters from the well scrubbed wooden benches on which we sat at large communal tables.
We would have to queue outside and you sat where you were put on entering, we never knew who we would be sat next to but the communal spirit in that place meant that this didn't matter many an interesting conversation was enjoyed between complete strangers and the banter and bonhomie, created by this middle aged couple, was far more enjoyable than could be found in the so called up market eateries that would close almost as soon as they had opened because in comparison, such places had no atmosphere.


Please excuse me while I go for a quick drool,

MMMMMMMMmmmmmmm!

Sausages.

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Er...I didn't start this thread to defend nouvelle cuisine.

By refering to dolly sized portions, and eating gold leafed flowers, I would have hoped that that might have been clear.

Whoosh.

I just wondered if anyone remembered the name of the place.

The eighties were the decade that taste forgot.

Hell, the majority of you must have bought into the whole flashy excess dream, because you returned a Conservative M.P. in that tasteless decade.

:rolleyes:

Someone will remember, and I'll be grateful.

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It tells you about this building on this site, though you can't quote from it.

It's about half way down, and says it was a house built by John Parker, before becoming the Manchester Bank in 1909, then later Nat West, and in 1995 became a restaurant.

High Street or Front Street Rishton

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Er, no, you didn't and er, yes you did make it clear, but I blame you for bringing up your food...
memories, which now has me in a similar situation, because I can't remember the name of that eatery and as the Mystical town of Clitheroe, seems to have become a rarely discussed subject on our local pages the chances of someone putting me out of my misery are far less than your own.

I dare say the shed will still be in it's original position but by now it will have new owners and probably look like this:-

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...6&d=1271576342

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Obviously people like the subject of nosh, past and present.

Perhaps someone will start anepicurean thread, and local gastromony can be slagged off, or praised, as people see fit.

:rolleyes::D

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You were right Garinda, there was a restaurant in the co-op builds which closed down, but it was in Great Harwood, the chap that owned it was called Wigglesworth, can remember his first name, but his Mother and Father Brian and Rita lived on Mallard Place opposite to where I live, sadly Brian died a few years ago but Rita still lives in the same flat, would think Wynonie knew Brian from the Stop and Rest many moons ago, hope that helps with your problem Garinda

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Hurrah, thank you.

Getting closer.

It was in the old Co-op in Arrod then, and the owner was called Wigglesworth.

Apparently my dad used to play golf with Wigglesworth Snr., in the early seventies.

Ring any bells with anyone re: the name of the place?

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Not sure about the early seventies Garinda, Mr Wigglesworth Jr had the place in the eighties, in the seventies seem to think it was a canteen of some sort, think it may have been run by an ex Accrington Cricketer, maybe Russ Cuddey, but not sure. Used to have lunch there when I was working on shopfitting in the area. Thought Ken may have known something but it must have been before his time

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No my dad apparently played golf with his dad in the early seventies.

The nouvelle cuisine restaurant, which we now know is in Gt. Harwood, was trading in the late eighties.

I don't know Arrod that well, but it might be where Soprano's is now, if it's the same old Co-op.

Also on Glebe Street, across from the Post Office, the Co-operative Society built this imposing building opened in 1909 on the site of the old Vicarage in a similar style to the Town Hall.
Originally housing offices and separate shops the ground floor was later made into a supermarket whilst above furniture and other household goods were sold. A purpose built supermarket was erected across the street which has itself been superceeded. The old building did continue as a retail outlet but it is now Soprano's, a cafe/bar thing.
Architecture of Great Harwood

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Sorry, thought you meant the restaurant in the early 70s, ya Brian was a keen golfer and played at Accrington and was a regular in the Golfers Corner in the Stop and Rest with Wynonie's Dad and of course your parents were regulars in the Stop too, that's how I got to know them

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Seeing as you're so close, perhaps you can pop round, and ask her if she ever went.

:rolleyes::D

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She is actually on the 'phone Garinda, sure with your charm, she would not object to a quick call. Don't want to put the number up, but think you will find it easy.

Haha .. I pulled up that bit from the Gt. Harwood history site too. Even looked in Shurmer's guide of 1988, but not listed ... only Baggie's wine bar, which I think was on the other side ?

Hurry up and get the answer please, driving me potty too. :blink8:

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Don't think that would be advisable kate will PM you

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Thanks hun.

I won't call. It might seem a bit odd.

Hopefully with all the new info, someone might now remember the name.

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Ok... sorry.

I know a lady of 82 who has lived almost across the road from the Co-op building in Glebe Street for many, many years with a most remarkable memory. If all else fails, will give her a ring.

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Did you ever go to it Katex?

It's just the sort of place you theatrical types might have had an end of show party.

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No ... can't remember it at all Garinda, but was busy bring up a young lad about this time .. too busy earning a crust.

Haha .. they usually go to Francos.

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The Judge Walmsley in Billington was renowned fer "Chicken In Basket" in early/mid 60s. perhaps twas yon they went? tried it meself back then on recomendation n it was ace.:)

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It is before my time (and even my wife's) but I'm on the case. Hope to have an answer soon.

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My local historian can't remember the two-word French name off the top of his head either but recalls it to be at the corner of Lower Fold and Church Street opposite youth club.

I should have a name by the end of today.

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Wasn't that one called 'Tiffany - A Restaurant'? The proprietor was American I think.

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Ya cashy the good old Judge was a great pub in the 60s, went in regularly as I was serving my time (that's apprenticeship Garinda:)) in Whalley, there was another did the old Chicken and Chips in a basket at Wiswell, but can't remember its name:confused:

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I think that's the name I was looking for.

Certainly rings a bell.

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jaysay.
the place on church street in the old coop building was called bartholomews.

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Do you know who ran it rishton blue:confused: like I said think it could have been Russ Cuddey but I'm not to sure

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Another Accywebber from Rishton! I am not alone!

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Don't buy that sorry Dr Jeckell.:D

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Am getting more confused ... are we in Rishton or Gt. Harwood ??

Lives next door but 3 to me Jaysay, will try and ask him next time he is out walking the dog. :)

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I think the name of the first restaurant around here producing nouvelle cuisine in the late eighties, was Tiffany's.

On confirmation Yerself is getting some karma, for stopping this buzzing around in my bonce.

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Good, however, that was in reply to Ken's post re. one at the junction of Lowerfold with Church Street which is Great Harwood. 'Course there is a Church Street in Rishton too .. is there an old co-op building on there ?

This is getting funnier. :D Think we are going to have to send you to some sort of Hypnotist for regression treatment... !

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jaysay.
dont know for sure but somewhere in the back of my mind i have a picture of a guy with a beard.
i think he had just left the armed forces.

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Crikey Kate, take your pic. There's a Co-Op building on pretty much every corner in the village!!!

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I was born and bred in Rishton - spent the first 26 years of my life in Harwood Road and loved the place. My dad was secretary of the Conservative club for many years, but I left in the 60's before the nouvelle cuisine revolution.

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Now you are making it worse Ken !!

Seems to me, Garinda's restaurant so far is not in a Co-op building or Rishton. It will turn out that it was not a decor of black and white next; probably orange and red, selling lashings of steak and kidney pud with slop peas !http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17433.gif

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Keep it quiet but....I love the Con Club. Shhhh!

The nearest we have to nouvelle cuisine now is Auberge, which is a bit pricey but you're guaranteed a good meal and good service.

The Atlantic Fish Bar on George Street is my preference for 'eating out' in Rishton as the Friday night ritual of a chippy tea is still an incentive to get through the week.

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Lol, shut it.

It was nearly quarter of a century ago, and it was dark, and I didn't drive there.

I did mention it could have been in Arrod....and it was decorated black and white, and it did serve nouvelle cuisine.

It was definitely a guacamole, not a mushy peas, sort of place.

:D

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Looks like you owe Yerself that karma Garinda ... see this :

Chef in 'buy local' plea (From Lancashire Telegraph)

' Among them were Neil Wigglesworth, executive chef at Twin Farms in Vermont, USA, described as the best hotel in the world.

Neil grew up in Accrington and ran Tiffany's Restaurant in Great Harwood for several years'

Hope you get a good night's sleep tonight... :D

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In every village Ken:D

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Are you sure you weren't an investigative journalist in a previous life Kate;)

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My Mum's just been, and I said Yerself had remembered the name Tiffany's, and she said that's it!

Well done Yerself, many thanks, and to everyone else who helped us get there.

:)

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'Neil grew up in Accrington and ran Tiffany's Restaurant in Great Harwood for several years.'
'His sell-out Saturday night dinner included heather-fed Bowland lamb and souffle cooked from locally-produced Lancashire cheese..


'Sell-out' suggests otherwise.


Unless there's a conspiracy theory, that all the patrons were bussed in from down south.


:rolleyes::D

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That's Ok Garinda .. only took 4 pages of posts to sort it and driving us all crazy :rolleyes::D

Heather fed Bowland Lamb !! Suppose you are what you eat, and what they eat is what you eat .. that didn't quite come out right somehow.

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No wonder it didn't last long.............if it had been called the "Dog @ Ferret" or summat like that, would still be going strong in Rishton.:D

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I lived in rishton 1962/1996 34 years and nobody as mentioned the restaurant that opened in the late sixties early seventies were the indian restaurant now is the chef was top notch he was helped by his wife and as a matter of fact they moved into a rented house that I and my family had just left when we moved to a house further up the street and bought two night storage heaters that I had fitted in the bedrooms He was middle aged as was his wife and he was said to have trained in the west end london and to me he looked ex army oficer very well spoken as was his wife they moved on 12months later and the place was taken over by a young couple who kept going as a restaurant he was the chef and always in whites and wore a chefs hat the lady a blonde may still live in rishton alas the standard of the food dropped and the rest is now history

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Every second pub in the Ribble Valley sold chicken in the basket in the 60s, with disposable gloves, or more posh with finger bowls. Three Fishes, Aspinall Arms, Wellsprings, Swan With Two Necks, Higher Buck, Sun Inn, Most of the pubs in Clitheroe,

A plate a tripe & black pudding fer this lot,

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This lot I mean.

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I've gone native, John. I don't venture beyond the village boundaries these days for fear of bumping into an 'Arroder or a Dingle or some other such foreign devil.

Besides which, I'm far too busy concentrating on local matters.....aren't I, Wynonie?

;)

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not wise ken ya should get out n about, even cashys visiting rishton in next few days, ok its kinda missionary work, but i never forget the less fortunates.:D

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:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: what the hells going to happen if you get elected and have to attend meetings in the Metropolis Ken:D

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Missionary work cashy, be careful we ain't sure whether the natives are still cannibals or not in deepest darkest Rishton:D

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Oh come on mate, that's not fair. We haven't burned any witches for weeks.

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You mean I actually have to do something if I get in?

Hell's bells, no one told me that. I was just taking my lead from the Tory councillors.....

:D

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Nice one, you deserve some green for that:D

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You might have to get the matches out, there's a rumour margaretR is moving over there!

:eek:

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She'll get you at playtime Less:D