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Hello,

When my Grandma hopefully comes out of hospital this time we have taken the decision that she will now have to go into a Care Home or Assisted Living accommodation.:(

I am making my way through the different ones in Accrington on the internet at the mo as it is all new to us but just wondered if anybody can recommend anywhere?

Any advice would be gratefully recieved and passed onto my Mum.
Thanks
Heth

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from working in several care homes i would say...if it can be avoided don't let her go into a home, i wouldn't let any of my family go into a care home...ever

assisted living would help her keep her independance

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Thanks Flashy, I am the same as you I dont want her to go into a Care Home really as she is still quite young (71) and she still has all of her marbles....if you know what I mean.

I would want her in assisted living so we still have the peace of mind she is more looked after rather than living on her own but still has to do things to look after herself

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At one time, as part of my job, I visited people in nursing homes in Accrington and never found one which I would use for any relative of mine.

My brother had my mother admitted to one in the Preston area, without consulting me. It caused a rift in our relationship which has taken 10 years to be resolved.
She was in two homes in two years because none could be found which catered to her needs. No provision was made for her diabetic diet needs. She died after those two years.

She had an alert mind and was housed with dementia cases - I imagine it felt like being in an insane asylum - the demented coped better because they were unaware of what they were enduring.

Explore all possible alternatives before doing this.

PS contact
http://www.willowbrookhomecare.com/Home/home.html
they seem to provide the service she appears to need.

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Heth, can't you look at getting a carer into her own home? my friend works for a care agency and thats what she does, get in touch with social services and see if she would be entitled to vouchers for one, some people have carers going in twice a day just for an hour or so, in my opinion it would be better than going into a home

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I would advise as Flashy has try and get assisted living in her own home. I'm sure that this would be far preferable to her going in a care home. Good luck:)

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I am of the same opinion as the other posters on here.
Care homes seem to be just waiting rooms for the dying....fleecing the clients of any money they have, in the process.
I too, would be looking at the possibility of bringing carers into the home.

A relative of ours who has asbestosis, has a young woman to come in and do his cleaning, she shops for him and also does a bit of cooking too.......she comes for 3 hours five days a week.......the three hours she fits in around her family's needs.......and this works well for both of them.
He doesn't get different carers each day....the lady knows what has been done, so there is a continuity of care.

This may not work for you Heth, if you need your mothers personal care needs to be dealt with.

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I think it all depends how ill she is.
Could she manage with someone coming in for a couple of hours each day?

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Thanks all for your advice, before my Grandma went into hospital this time she had carers coming in for

1hr in the morning to wake her and help her with a shower and to get dressed and take medication.
1hr at tea time to help with cooking her meal (we were always there at dinner to help her).
1hr at bedtime to help her get into bed and take medication.

But my Grandma has already told us that she doesnt want to go back home as she is frightened, also I think she wants people round her now to make her feel safe. Me & my Mum try and do as much as we can but we cant be there 24/7. My Mum is still getting over having a heart attack so I also dont want her to get ill again.

Its a hard decission to make what to do for the best

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try for sheltered accomodation

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You are right about it being a hard decision........and even though you want to help, there is only so much you can do.
I am sure your gran will have lost a lot of confidence in her ability to live solo.
I think that you will have to make arrangements that suit your Grans needs......but are flexible enough to accommodate any changes.

Are there any family members who could 'live in' for a short period of time to assess what is actually necessary.
This would give your gran the added benefit of not being on her own.
She may need sheltered living plus carers coming in.

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I think we are gonna have to go for Sheltered with carers coming in for the begining and then see how it goes.
I would hate it for her to be frightened as she has got through so much in the past 9mths she deserves the best.
Can anyone recomend anywhere in this area? Its all well and good me looking on the internet (they all say that they are the best) but I would prefer peoples "real" opinions about different places.

Thanks again for all you advice, makes it a bit easier hearing what other people think, makes me realise I aint going that crazy with it all!! ;)

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the only ones i know in Accrington are Kirk house just at the lights at Church, theirs one on Sparth Road in Clayton and i THINK there's one just off Blackburn road near where the college used to be, their used to be one called Park View at the top of Buckingham Grove just off Dill Hall lane, that was 20 years ago though, doubt it's still going

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Can't really help you there Heth......My mother in law was in Sheltered accommodation on Lower Barnes Street in Clayton, but that was the early 90's.......it was fine then, and not too far from us either, so that we could give her additional support.

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Thanks I will have a look into these now.

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To get sheltered accommodation locally you will need to be registered with b-with-us
PennineLancashire - Who Can Use the Service
The vacancies are advertised there. Park view, Kirk house, Merlin court are just a few that I know of, who advertise their vacancies there.
When you apply, you get a home interview to assess your need and allocate priority for rehousing.

The 'die off rate' is more than other types of housing (I know that sounds insensitive but how can I put it otherwise), so vacancies crop up often.

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Thanks Margaret I will have a read through this...

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Try Hyndbrook House, it is off Blackburn Road across from where the Grammar School used to be. Have heard good reports:)

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thats the one i was on about Bernie, just didn't know what it was called

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I have seen that one on the b-with-us too.
Rent there is a lot higher than the others.

http://www.housingcare.org/housing-c...n-england.aspx

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It is part of the group I live with now and although not everyones choice I think moving here was the best thing I ever did (after losing Ian). You can choose the privacy of your own place or join in with other people in the residents lounge. I have found the mix to suit me perfectly but others could hate it, it really is all about how you want to live. Sometimes I want to be alone but for most of the time I prefer some company:)

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As I stated, heard good reports. Maybe the rent reflects the care and or added bonuses. Like no seperate laundry costs, heating and hot water added in to your rent. Have you looked into all this when comparing the rents?

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When b-with-us advertises that home it doesn't show that much detail - perhaps it should.

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That's it you try and make her feel worse than she already does.

Its obvious that is true but a little sensitivity would be nice.

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I think that is what she needs as she does like her own space but would benifit from being around others. She has become dependent on me and my Mum and to be honest she needs interaction with other people to keep her spirits up as she must get bored with us!!!
I have drove past Hynd Brook house in the last few days and it looks nice from the outside, very well kept.
Will deff be looking into this one thanks

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Thanks for the link Margaret

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Anyone heard anything about Adison Court? Its only at the bottom of my street and my Mum lives 5mins walk from me so this would be good for us if it is any good for her?

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I found this report online
http://62.73.173.233/CSCI/CRH/89/ES0...6697.R01.S.pdf

It is long - I only read part of it - from what I read, it appears that it is specifically for dementia sufferers - you might find different if you read all of it.

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Thank You, it seems that there are 50 places for Dementia and 50 places for "Old Age" residents.
Think I will pop in and ask the question, wont do any harm will it

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Reading this thread shows Accy Web when it's working at it's best. Providing advice, and support for someone who who needs it.

Heth, the love and concern you show for you grandmother, and your mum, is admirable.

I genuinely hope you find a place where your grandmother will feel safe, and happy, and the rest of your family will have some comfort that she's getting the care she needs.

Good luck.

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Garinda you just brought a tear to my eyes, thank you so much for your comments and luck for my Grandma and the rest of us. x

When me and my Mum were talking the first thing I said is that I would ask the gang on here as I know that people dont fob me off, they give me genuine and honest answers which I appreciate.
I love my Mum and Grandma to bits and they will both be chuffed when I tell them about the lovely comments I have had.

I know I say this alot but Thank You x

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Vine House in Ossy looks like it is nice

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Vine House is a no-no

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No Heth, I mislead you there(mea culpa)...sorry about that......it was Vine House that we tried to get the old gent into...but no room there and he had to go further up the road.
The best bet is to go and have a look at places as well as taking recommendations

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Yes will hopefully be going round with my Mum next week when I am not at work.
Thanks Marg for your help. :)

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You are very welcome.
If I find the inspection details I will PM you.

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I think there's one on Pickup Street, Ossy but i'm not sure what its called!

Best Regards - Taggy

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Fashy i was just reading the post you have put and i found it very moveing because i always said to my mother she would never go in a home and she never did

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it's just honesty Mallard :)

Heth, IF she does end up going into a home, find a small one, with few residents, i found the smaller the home the more time the staff can have with the resies

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We are hoping to go down the sheltered accom path but if not thats what we want a small care home.

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I have a friend who works there . She is an excellent carer , and speaks well of Vine House .

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Heth I really hope you find assisted sheltered housing accom because from what you've said seems to be the right route for your Gran. Just call in and ask to speak to the "scheme manager" and am sure they will talk you through the options of keeping your Gran happy and safe and would most certainly be able to inform you if their scheme was suitable to Grans needs or not.:)

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Thanks Bernadette, I have printed lots of things off that have been brought to my attention on here and passed them to my Mum last night so she can read and get her head round it then off we go to visit places.

Still have no date of my Grandma getting out of hospital as yet, she only came out of Intensive Care on Wednesday aft so think it will be a couple of weeks but the doctors seem to want to kick her out sooner than last year (prob coz of shortage of beds with flu cases) so we better get the ball rolling.

Dont know how long these things take to get sorted so presume the quicker we get something in place the better, maybe then that way she wont have to be discharged to Blackburn Hospital as I wouldnt be happy with her stopping there at the min as per other thread.

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Heth
My mother in Law was in an Anchor House Property but not in Accrington. I think they have a couple in the area but if you visit the website it will point you in the right direction.

She was there for 10 years and it was wonderful. She had her own flat and if she wanted to stay in and watch telly she could and if she wanted the option to go down to the lounge for one of the activities that they put on she didn't have to leave the building for as she put it "a good night's entertainment".

She moved into this from a very isolated property where she was on her own and it gave her a new lease of life and certainly gave us more peace of mind that not only was she being looked after but was enjoying herself as well.

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Thanks Anzac, I will look into this now :)

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Heth you are right to get things moving ASAP get the forms filled out because you will have to bid for any property you think is suitable on "B-with us", good luck:)

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My mum and dad were in Anchor housing in Morecambe and the standard was good.
Anchor housing have places on Sparth Rd Clayton-le-Moors and near James St in Ossy.

http://www.anchor.org.uk/Pages/home.aspx

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Before I started at university I worked for Willowbrook Home Care for 2 years. I worked at Kirk House in Church and also covered at Hyndbrook House.

They are both lovely places, carers are on site 24/7 and all residents can call them at anytime for anything, they are with you within minutes. The buildings are both very secure.

I can't remember who owns Hyndbrook but Accent Homes has Kirk House. Both properties have communal lounges and there are usually plenty of people in there if you are feeling a bit lonely.

Kirk House has bingo twice a week, dominoes once a week, trips out and every other Sunday everyone come together for tea made by the carers.

I can't recommend it highly enough and I know all the carers there are wonderful.

Good Luck with your search.

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Think these care homes are as good as their staff, JCB, its like firms that provide home care, which enables more people to stay at home. When I was in hospital 14 months ago I was told that they wouldn't discharge me unless I agreed to home care, so I did, under protest (I've always been very fiercely independent) but I'm now glad I did, I let lucky, I got Careforce (now Mears) George who is my main carer (he's also a member of Accyweb) has actually improved my standard of life, he's more of a friend than a carer, to me if this enables me to stay more independent its great

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Thank You all for your info, it really is a big help for me and my Mum :)

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Hyndbrook House is Evesbrook (well it was 7 years ago) x

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we had a friend in Kirk House till approx 7 yrs ago, we used to take him on holiday, he spoke very well of the place.:)

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It is part of the Harvest Group now Emzy:)

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I'm afraid i got my streets mixed up, the place i was thinking of is called Springfield Mews & its actually on Simpson Street in Ossy!

Best Regards - Taggy

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That's the Anchor Housing I menioned earlier

http://www.housingcare.org/housing-c...e-england.aspx

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We have had a few clients to Kirk house when they have been able to leave us. I work at Hollinbank House H.F.E Ozzy. it's a 14 bed home. The care we give is Excellent and tailored to the individuals needs.
They can bring in their own Nick-knacks to make it home from home. We do long or short stay.
My advice is lancashire care homes to see the rating. Then go and have a look round, talk to the proprietor and check out the staff.
The home after all is only as good as the staff.
Pm Mick or My self if you have any questions. Or you can ring and ask for Mr Pullinger or Mrs Fort.
Good luck what ever you decide on.

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Thank You very much Anne I will let you know if I get stuck on anything.
The plan is to go and visit all the places I have printed off for my Mum to read through, as soon as we have a estimate of when my Grandma is getting out as we would like to take her with us as she is the one that has to live there!
Thanks again Anne will keep you posted.
Heth

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Thanks heth, your welcome.

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I had to put my mother and father into nursing and carehomes as the cost of coming in never suited. Cold chips on the counter top not eaten and vast costs too.
Abbeyfield is a sheltered housing association and yes, to be safe or feel safe is a basic human requirement. If I can research or help anyone find one let me known by PM. My mother has dementia and I dislike the stigma used. She is as bright as a button as it is her memory that is affected, not her mentality.

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Well to be honest I don’t know where to start to give you a update peeps!! I know its been a while but I just haven’t had the time, well here I go………

We were told by the hospital at Blackburn Royal 2wks ago that they were planning to send my Grandma home soon once her SATS had improved and stabilized. Now we were a little surprised to say the least.
Basically the op that my Grandma had just had was a larger one than the one last year, she has also had a pacemaker fitted due to her heart keep stopping and she had been bed bound for 5wks. So for them to say they were even thinking about sending her straight home worried us, last year she went to Rehab to get her back on her feet before she went home but due to NHS cuts this could not happen this time.

So time to start the ball rolling with Nursing home’s.

A week last Friday my Mum and I decided to start looking.
Where to start though?
My Mum looked through the paperwork and suggestions that you guys had gratefully sent me and we set a plan out, she would come to my house for 9am and we would start with the closest which meant Addison Court.
Now I know Cashy had informed me that he had a friend that had been there and it wasn’t too clever in the dementia part for his own reasons but didn’t know about the residential side.

Me Mum arrived at my house and we walked down to Addison Court as it is only at the bottom of my street. We were warmly welcomed by one of the managers to say that they didn’t know we were going (we thought it were best to catch them off guard!).
She sat us down in the office and made us a brew, now the first impression that both me and Mum got when we walked towards the office is how clean everything looked and smelt which to me is a good sign.

My Mum went through everything that had happened to my Grandma over the past year and that the hospital had told us that they were planning to send my Grandma home soon but we didn’t feel like she was 100% to go home. We were talked through some things that the home did i.e activities, days out, meals, and care, and then asked if we wanted to look around.

We had just stepped outside the office to start looking when my Mums phone rang, the hospital.

“Hiya, the doctor has decided to discharge her after tea today to her home”

Yep you can imagine my Mum’s response, but there were no budging them. They had asked my Grandma if she felt ready to leave and she had replied yes (my Grandma’s memory isn’t good, she cant remember half the things she has gone through and she doesn’t class herself as ill or old even though she is!) so the nurse told my Mum that she couldn’t go against my Grandma’s wishes!
So once my Mum had calmed down we had a look around Addison Court including the nursing top floor for residents that need special care (yes I agree Cashy) and we were impressed with the residential side.
It were clean and plenty of staff around to answer different questions we had.
We had a look through the menu they had for each day and through the different activities they had done recently.

We were then back into the office and both me and Mum knew what each other were thinking without words………..it would be a good idea for her to come here for a month and see how she likes it and see how they treat her. So with the help of the owner we arranged for Grandma to go to Addison Court straight from hospital that night.

Yes I know what some of you are thinking, it were the first place that we had seen and that we had rushed into this but what else could we do? We both had the “good gut feeling” and sometimes you just have to trust that.

Grandma has been there now just over a week and seems to have settled in well, we took her TV from her house and other bits and bobs to make it seem more homely and so far so good. She does seem to spend quite a bit of time in her room watching her TV but that is just my Grandma when we aren’t there with her, she is quite a shy person when on her own. She does potter about and seems to like the staff.
She is being showered every morning by a member of staff just while she gets herself steady again and when we are not with her she is on hourly checks 24/7 just incase she has another “funny do” or epileptic fit so what more can we ask for?

She hasn’t took part in any activities as yet as she is either out with us or still a bit shy yet but all in all I think this was a good “gut feeling”.

Thankyou all for your help it has been great, lets see what the next three weeks bring.

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Lovely to read Heth (apart from the discharge from hospital). Sounds like your grandma is happy and being well cared for and that after all is all you can ask for. So pleased for all of you:)

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Thanks Bernadette :)

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Yes good news . I hope all goes well :)

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thanks JCB, I will let her know that I have told you all. Think she like's being famous! :)

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Good to hear that your Gran is out of hospital.......though was not an ideal way to discharge....I thought that they still did discharge planning....they did when I was there.

Going with a 'gut feeling' along with what your eyes and your nose tells you is good.......and it looks like it was a good call as your Gran is settled and from what you say, is comfortable and happy.

As for her spending time in her room, well......she has the chance to participate in communal activites if she feels like it......and she may not be fully fit and ready to join in with stuff yet. Give it time.
Thanks for the update. I was wondering how you were all doing.

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Thanks Marg, like you said we are giving her time with the activities and not pushing her, she will come out of her shell soon. At home she used to watch the telly when we wernt there so she is just comfy with it.
We will have to see how things go.
I appreciate all your help Marg x

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'Twas nothing Heth....you sorted it yourselves...well done!

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Just found out that she is currently playing Bingo at Addison Court with everybody!! :D

Bless her! :D

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Really pleased yer checked everything yerself heth, its the obvious thing, yet quite a few just go off recommendation, glad grans happy n hope she has many more happy days. am a big believer in gut instincts.;)

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Thanks Cashy, I know what you mean the the dementia part though.;)

Like I have said we will see how it goes, thats all we can do.

Very handy though being at bottom of my street! T'other half is always asking were I am popping out to!! He should be glad of the peace and quiet!!:D

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First, or last, doesn't matter, if your instinct says something feels right.

Thanks for the update.

I hope you, your mum, and your grandmother have peace of mind that she's safe, and happy.

:)

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I hope she won at Bingo :D

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Glad to see your Gran has settled down okay heth, and hope she makes progress in her rehabilitation

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Great news that you have got her settled somewhere that meets your approval and hopefully her's in the long run. It's shameful that you were given so little notice about her discharge from hospital, and I would be writing a letter of complaint about that. Hope things work out for her there.

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Thanks G, it has give us peace of mind to be honest which is good for us!!:D

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She won 3 times Marg!!! :D

On the third time she put her prize back in the pot as it were unfair!!! :D

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Thanks John :D

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Thanks Lindsay :D

We aint got a leg to stand on as my Grandma said yes to going home, thats the thing. Even though we know that she was confused and cant remember much she can still speak to the doc's and thats enough for the doc's to discharge.

It aint good at all but thats how the NHS go at the mo.:(

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Tell her 'Well Done girl'........the cakes are on her:D

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I will do!!! Just glad that she has started joining in!!
Thanks Marg x

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Hi All,

Just a lil update – MY GRANDMA IS BACK HOME!!!! :dancedog:

Me and my Mum decided that she were ready to go home and my Grandma felt ready aswell, even though she couldn’t remember were “home” was!! :D

She is happy as larry though with not a care in the world! Its us that are scared!

She still has the carers going in the morning to help her shower and dress and then at bedtime but everything else my Mum does or I do if I aint at work. It’s tiring!!!

She has one of them lifelines on also but if something does happen I just hope that she remembers to press the button! :rolleyes:

She isn’t as active now as she were before all this happened, going to do her little bit of shopping tire’s her out for 2 days but she is happy to stop in most of the time now.

I will say Addison Court have been very good to her, and they have told us that if we want any advice or help then to call them straight away which I thought were very good of them. :thumbsup:

We know that the build up on her brain is going to happen again, we just don’t know when and there is nothing we can do to stop it. :(

Until then our aim is to keep her happy and safe. That’s all we can do.

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How fantastic.

For all of you.

Here's to Heth's Grandma return home.

:)

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Thanks G, much appreciated!! :D

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good news heth .. im glad shes well enough to come home

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Thanks hun :D

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That is wonderful....what good news.
Hope all goes well for you.
Take care of your own health though, it is so easy to forget about your own needs when taking on something like this.

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I know, I am feeling it already but its not just me Grandma I have to look after it's me Ma aswell!! :D

I will be ok, just gotta stop smoking as much with worry!! ;)

Thanks Marg x

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Glad Grandma is in her own home again but as MargP pointed out you need to watch your own health as well. It is all to easy for carers to neglect their own welfare in situations like yours. Hope things continue in this positive vein for all of you:)

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Thanks Bernadette, I have taken on board what you and Marg have said and I know your both right ;)

:D

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That's great news heth, there's no place like home when it comes to keeping people happy, I would sooner be at home than I hospital any day, and there are things in place to help in that respect, as the old saying goes There's no place like home

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glad yer nans home heth, it can be hard work, but its well worth it, don't overdo though,thats just as important.;)

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Thanks John, thats what she keeps saying!!
She has been a star through-out though just let the doc's get on with things and not complained once!
She loves her home! :D

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Thanks Cashy, I am gonna try and chill a bit more!:rolleyes:
Whatever happens will happen I cant stop anything by getting myself ill. :)