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hi just wondering if anyone got a parking ticket on the home bargain car park over christmas from a company called excel.:mad:

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Thet are proper little Hitlers on that car park

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i didnt even know they even worked on there.i drive a biggish van and because of other peoples parking i had to park a tiny bit accross the white line and got a ticket for £60.was tryin to find out if anyone else had had this and if they managed to fight it.

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They did my wife for 4 minutes over her time

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its just not right.they must be sat waiting to prey on anything they can pull anyone for.i was only in shop for about 10 mins.no wonder people hate them so much.

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There is a simple answer, don't use the shop, money spends anywhere

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check out the thread common law, Whatever you do dont respond to the ticket, if you do you have then entered into an agreement with the company. Read the thread first & check out common law, the ticket cannot be enforced.

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Oh no, not you too!

Tooty, you've been had, just pay up and the moral is be careful in future.

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Yep you.:D Joking apart the information you give is to say the least a bit sparse.Could you elaborate a bit.:confused::confused:

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Have a nosey at this :-

Traffic wardens 'pressured' into issuing tickets - Telegraph

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Well when I go to my appeal against a ticket issued by Bury Council's wardens, if I win (which I should) I'll post on here. The thing is Gordon if you read about Common Law you might understand it a little better, instead of slating what you more than likely havent read about, if you have read it then you would be of the understanding that the ticket cannot be enforced,

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Not sure what is going on here, the carpark is shared with I think 4 shops, it is not a pay to park , so what rules are being enforced for a ticket to be issued ?

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Exactly,need more information as I said.:confused::):)

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Like I said earlier don't shop there, if nobody is shopping in these establishments it may just focus their minds a little, no customers no wages;)

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What did you do to get a ticket and what is your defence?

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Well I wish you luck!
Kenny started a thread on this in November and went all through Common Law and parking tickets at great length, I don't think he ever came on to announce his victory.

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Simple answer, if its not the council its basically junk mail and treat it this way.

They cannot enforce the fine.

From a quick Google Excel seem a dodgy firm, just look at watchdogs website.;)

OR take the others advise stop moaning and pay the penalty. No wonder firms like Excel get away with it.:rolleyes:

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From Martin Lewis' 'Money saving Expert' website:

If you get an unfair ticket in a private (different rules apply to public tickets) car park.... don't pay it. These supposed 'fines' are the new Wild West, and whether the cowboys do it at supermarkets, retail parks, hospitals or housing estates, they're often unenforceable. This is a step by step guide on how to fight them.

Here's the link: Private Parking Tickets: Tickets are often invalid, don't pay....

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I'm sure that there is a sign up on the car park telling drivers the rules of the car park.
Not that I am saying it is legal for them to issue penalties for infringement of these rules.

They have their own personnel who go round checking that cars have parked in the bays, and that you haven't overstayed the time limit. I'm not sure if the shops on the site pay the company to oversee the car park....but it is close to the town centre and as such is open to people abusing it by parking too long.

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the legalities of these tickets is clear, they are NOT a fine or enforsable by any law enforcement agency. At best they are an invoice, they have never taken anyone to court to recover the charge that they are trying to apply. Throw it in the bin, you will then get about 12 different letters threatening to up the "Fine" to nearly 200 quid and from different debt collectors who are just Excel in another name(Roxbroughe IIRC?). They will even try calling you, just hang up. After about 12 months they give up.

how do I know this? because it happened to me on a different car park in Stockport but same bunch of cowboys. their sign was not visible on the route I drove in to the space or on my journey from the car to the shop I went in so I was unaware of any restriction.

the law actually says that they can issue a charge for their "Loss" however this has been rated at no more than £1 as there is no charge for parking oin these so a nominal charge is applied. I wouldn't suggest having anything to do with them, just throw all letters away and isgnore any calls.

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Visited Bury (for the 1st time) parked on a carpark opposite Matalan, went to the nearest pay machine, purchased a ticket £1 for 1 hr, put it on my windscreen, came back 3/4 hr later & had a ticket, asked someone sat in their car opposite me if they knew why i might have got a ticket, and was told that where I had parked my car was in fact a separate car park. The car parks were the same tarmac, same white lines and only separated by small hooped railings which are designed for people to pass through with ease. When I went looking I found the ticket machine for the car park I was actually on £1.80 for 2 hrs. There was nothing on the ticket machine that I had purchased from to offer advise that there are in fact two separate car parks. I had my 18 month old with me so I just walked to the nearest (and the only machine I could see) as was having to weave in & out of parked cars with a pushchair. In my defence I genuinely didn't know these were two separate car parks, and that is it really thought that for the sake of a further 80p I wouldnt have got a ticket from the correct machine, which wasn't even visable from where I had parked my car as the car park was heaving. Its just a money making scam, I wont have been the first or the last to be stung, but im contesting it every step of the way.

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Don't bother contesting it, just ignore it as per my post, they do hassle you with letters but just chuck them on the recycling.

Plenty of threads on money saving expert and other forums that explain the absolute detail of where they stand

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Good Luck.

I think Wallop is contesting against the council, you cannot ignore these as they will start to increase in price.

I'm not 100% but sometime you can be better to pay fines under protest to stop any additional costs and then you can just argue the original fine. (this is only for genuine fines not like Excel who just prey on the ill informed).

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When you register an appeal all that happens is you lose the right to pay it at the reduced rate. It doesn't go up whilst waiting for a hearing. Think my hearings sometime in March in manchester, asked for burnley but then got a letter back saying no dates coming up at burnley, when i rang to as why they said because not many people ask for the venue, so either manchester or preston, so opted for manchester

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This is a car park to serve the shops in this little area..How on earth can you be given a parking ticket here ? This should be stopped right away, and the retailers told that if it carries on, a few people will stand at the entrance to the car park and turn drivers around. Who are the few people ? well I will muster them myself, because I am livid about this.. Tesco in Chorley once hired a firm of idiots to check if drivers parked in a disabled bay where in fact badge holders, I mean badge and clock set at the time of arrival. when challenged by this little moustachioed prat, I was informed that I may be banned from the car park and my reg No kept on their file. £80 quid a week was my adverage weekly spend there, so a short trip to the managers office, and Hitler was ousted from the store with his P45 shoved up his errm thingy..........Tony

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Tony, were you entitled to park in a disabled bay? Are you, or your passenger at the time, disabled? Just curious.

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Hi Michael, Yes I am the disabled one in this case, and I had left the badge in but not the clock since I would only be a few mins anyway. The guy was arrogant to extream, and on a supermarket car park? what is the world coming to ?.. If these big companies want the trade then treat customers a bit better, or lets boycot the lot of them and bring back the corner shop.... Tony

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I agree with you, Tony. I display the blue badge but usually don't display the clock on Tesco's car parks at their stores in Great Harwood and Haslingden, and no one has ever said anything to me. I can understand the need to display the clock on public roads but, like you, think it's pointless on Tesco's own car parks. They know we are inside their stores spending money.

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Think the answer is to display both wherever you Park Michael, I here what your saying and understand that you shouldn't really need to use the clock on a supermarket car park, but for the time it takes it takes away the opportunity for these Jobsworths to jump in and try and make a fast buck, I always use both no matter where I park and am also very aware that the Badge doesn't give a disabled driver carte blanche as to where they can park, there are people who think they can park anywhere they want because they are using a blue badge, which isn't so

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Wise words, John, and in view of Tony's experience I will display both in future. By the way, the badge will be up for renewal in May. Will we receive a new badge through the post, or do we have to re-apply?

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You will get a letter and forms thro the post.
You can renew you blue badge at Accrington Library via video link, save having to fill the form & post it off.
Retlaw.

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Thanks for that. I appreciate the information.

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You'll get an application form about 6 weeks before its due to expire, you will need two new photos to go with the form Michael

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If you do it at the library, they will do all that over the video link, even your signature as well, takes less than 5 mins.
Just one thing in Jaysay's case it won't work, his ugly mug would break the camera. :D:tongueout
Retlaw.

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not sure if this has been covered but parking ticketss on private land are not enforcable by law.

The private company can request the details of the registered keeper from the DVLA but they have no right to ask who was the driver at the time of the parking offence, as this is a civil matter. ignore the ticket and let them send a letter, reply to the letter that the car is indeed yours but you didn't commit the offence as any 1 of 5 people could of been driving.
just keep sending the same letter back and they will give up.

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Just had my appeal this morning & judge (who was a solicitor) agreed that there was no proper markings etc to differentiate between the two separate car parks, so I won, now today had cost me in petrol to Manchester & back, £33 to put little one in nursery for an extra day, £4.50 car parking, so its probably cost me the price of the ticket, but its not the money its the principle which is what I told the judge. Just thought you'd like to know that it is with appealing. (Oh & the judge said its not the first appeal he's heard for this car park, what's betting it won't be his last)

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Nice one wallop, i agree totally its principle.;)

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Well Done, can you not counter claim for your expenses from the company who LOST.;)

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With this Excel company,simply do not pay. Just ignore their letters.After about 4 or 5 attempts to contact me,they gave up.They are looking for the easy jerks who will pay up without question.If you go on the Excel site, you will see that Martin Lewis has left the same advice as me. Do not pay.

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With myself Jim I was on a council car park in Bury, so I couldn't ignore it. If I'd have been on a private car park like you've said just ignore it, its not enforceable.