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kestrelx 23-05-2012 11:58

Was Princess Diana Murdered?
 
Ex MI5 agent exposes Diana's death related to support for Palestinians, not reptiles like Icke said. - YouTube

Annie Machon ex- MI5 officer seems to think so!

maxthecollie 23-05-2012 12:29

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Yes, She didn't fit in with the Royal Family.

Eric 23-05-2012 13:03

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Nah ... the skank's still alive, hanging out with Elvis. She is currently working on her new book: "Men of My Acquaintance I Haven't Slept With." It is set to replace "The Complete Dictionary of Italian War Heroes" as the world's shortest book.:rolleyes:

flashy 23-05-2012 13:31

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I reckon so

janloot 23-05-2012 13:34

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how long is a piece of string, keep guessing,

Margaret Pilkington 23-05-2012 14:08

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I think it is highly likely.

Eric 23-05-2012 14:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by janloot (Post 993530)
how long is a piece of string, keep guessing,

Is that British string, or European string?:confused:

Retlaw 23-05-2012 14:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by janloot (Post 993530)
how long is a piece of string, keep guessing,

As much again as 1/2,
Retlaw.

MargaretR 23-05-2012 14:40

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The assassination technique is known as 'Boston Brakes' and can be recognised by 'no skid marks'.

MargaretR 23-05-2012 14:56

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Many years ago I bought this book -
"Princess Diana: The Hidden Evidence"

I lent it out and never got it back.
There is a review of it here-

[Princess Diana: The Hidden Evidence] Book review by Stephen Reid

"One such 'unnamed' source - a former SAS sergeant - reveals that the 'accident' in which Diana died bore all the tell-tail signs of a known special forces assassination technique known as the 'Boston brakes'. Agreed, on first hearing, this sounds a bit James Bond - contrived. But bear with it. Because then you go on to read the testimony of former SAS officer and world famous explorer, Sir Ranulph Fiennes, who confirms that the 'Boston brakes' is indeed a commonly employed assassination technique used by hired 'hit squads', and that it involves the use of a device which remotely controls the target-vehicle's steering and brakes. Fiennes goes on to say that this method has been used at least once in England, and in this regard describes in some detail the assassination of one Major Michael Marman, who was killed in a 'car crash' near Stonehenge in 1986. There's no doubt that the operation that killed Major Marman, as described by Fiennes, as well as by former Equerry to the Queen, Air Marshall Sir Peter Horsley, was chillingly identical to the series of events that killed Diana. Once again I have to say that the way the authors are able to continually corroborate their evidence in this way, throughout the book, is very impressive. "

accyman 23-05-2012 15:15

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i wouldnt put anything past any of our governments past and present.The amount of invasion to privacey ,removal of freedoms and wars they have been resposible for in the name of protecting us beggars belief so one problem princess wouldnt be too much of a deal to kill.

Mind you lets not look too closely at what government is up to lets just keep bickering amongst ourselves about smoking,drinking and fat people getting operations they dont deserve like the government wants us to ;)

Wynonie Harris 23-05-2012 16:07

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Probably.

After all, it wasn't that long ago that members of the Royal family couldn't marry a Catholic. So they certainly wouldn't want her getting hitched up with an Arab or, even worse, having a sprog by him.

annesingleton 23-05-2012 16:31

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I think so.

jaysay 23-05-2012 17:37

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Na a flaming drunk Frenchman diving a German car at speed = disaster:D

susie123 23-05-2012 17:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 993571)
Na a flaming drunk Frenchman diving a German car at speed = disaster:D

Couldn't have put it better myself, John. Though possibly driving it would have made more sense? ;)

jaysay 23-05-2012 17:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 993574)
Couldn't have put it better myself, John. Though possibly driving it would have made more sense? ;)

Yip totally agree:D

Eric 23-05-2012 18:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 993571)
Na a flaming drunk Frenchman diving a German car at speed = disaster:D

That's the second time this month I have to agree with you ... and the fifth time I can actually understand your post;):D.

It's much more dramatic, and, in a sense, romantic to think that she died because of a fiendish plot put together in some secret tomblike office "somewher in London", and not because she was dumb enough to get in a car with a drunk behind the wheel ... and that she compounded this stupidity by not wearing a seat belt.:rolleyes:

When it comes to dying celebs can go just like the rest of us, only in more expensive settings. TS Diana ... you were mortal. Rather than mourn the passing of a saint (thank god she wasn't RC), make a donation to MADD.

jaysay 23-05-2012 18:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 993588)
That's the second time this month I have to agree with you ... and the fifth time I can actually understand your post;):D.

It's much more dramatic, and, in a sense, romantic to think that she died because of a fiendish plot put together in some secret tomblike office "somewher in London", and not because she was dumb enough to get in a car with a drunk behind the wheel ... and that she compounded this stupidity by not wearing a seat belt.:rolleyes:

When it comes to dying celebs can go just like the rest of us, only in more expensive settings. TS Diana ... you were mortal. Rather than mourn the passing of a saint (thank god she wasn't RC), make a donation to MADD.

Ya forgot about her not wearing a seat belt, even though the driver was drunk, a wee bit silly really, mind you you don't really get a chance to do that twice do ya:rolleyes:

Eric 23-05-2012 18:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 993592)
Ya forgot about her not wearing a seat belt, even though the driver was drunk, a wee bit silly really, mind you you don't really get a chance to do that twice do ya:rolleyes:

And here's this from the guy who was wearing a seatbelt. I'm sure you will appreciate the source;):theband::D

After 10 years, has Diana's bodyguard finally remembered what happened that night? | Mail Online

Eric 23-05-2012 18:41

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Hey, Jaysay, if I keep agreeing with you, and I read the "Daily Mail", does that mean I can be one of The Three Stooges? I know that will make four, but were there not nine band members in The Temperance Seven? Hey, just call me Shemp;):D

susie123 23-05-2012 18:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 993602)
Hey, Jaysay, if I keep agreeing with you, and I read the "Daily Mail", does that mean I can be one of The Three Stooges? I know that will make four, but were there not nine band members in The Temperance Seven? Hey, just call me Shemp;):D

I agree too Eric... you, me and Jaysay - we could be the Three Stooges between us - or do they all have to be blokes?

jaysay 23-05-2012 19:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 993602)
Hey, Jaysay, if I keep agreeing with you, and I read the "Daily Mail", does that mean I can be one of The Three Stooges? I know that will make four, but were there not nine band members in The Temperance Seven? Hey, just call me Shemp;):D

Well people usually, given time, come round to seeing things my way:D

Eric 23-05-2012 19:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 993603)
I agree too Eric... you, me and Jaysay - we could be the Three Stooges between us - or do they all have to be blokes?

Equal opportunity rules:alright: ... this ain't the 50s ... (although the fact that I remember them, even to the point of winning the sack race in a sports day held to celebrate the Coronation:eek:, makes me feel kinda old fartish:D). Maybe we could be the new "Temperance Seven" ... that would leave room for more members. Someone told me once (and it wasn't Mr. Google) that there were nine members in the band because "nine" was "one over the eight" ... apokrawful, (obligatory "Jayism":eek:), maybe; but it's a neat little joke.:D

However, my primary allegiance is to the ultra-exclusive "Fellowship of the Hat":theband:

Remember, anyone who has fallen down drunk in Medicine Hat is invited to apply.

jaysay 23-05-2012 19:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 993611)
Equal opportunity rules:alright: ... this ain't the 50s ... (although the fact that I remember them, even to the point of winning the sack race in a sports day held to celebrate the Coronation:eek:, makes me feel kinda old fartish:D). Maybe we could be the new "Temperance Seven" ... that would leave room for more members. Someone told me once (and it wasn't Mr. Google) that there were nine members in the band because "nine" was "one over the eight" ... apokrawful, (obligatory "Jayism":eek:), maybe; but it's a neat little joke.:D

However, my primary allegiance is to the ultra-exclusive "Fellowship of the Hat":theband:

Remember, anyone who has fallen down drunk in Medicine Hat is invited to apply.

Do not take the name of Jaysay in vain young Eric:D

DaveinGermany 23-05-2012 19:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 993611)
...However, my primary allegiance is to the ultra-exclusive "Fellowship of the Hat":theband:

Remember, anyone who has fallen down drunk in Medicine Hat is invited to apply.

And so it shall be until the end of days my friend. :)

Eric 23-05-2012 20:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 993613)
Do not take the name of Jaysay in vain young Eric:D

Young:eek: ... ahm owder'n thee bi a sixmonth 'n more ... sheesh, kids today;):D

jaysay 24-05-2012 08:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 993625)
Young:eek: ... ahm owder'n thee bi a sixmonth 'n more ... sheesh, kids today;):D

Ya Eric its what I'm always saying to my Daughter, there's only two things in life I hate, bad beer and cheeky kids, that was okay when she was a teenager, but she scowls at me now, shes now 44:D:D

kestrelx 25-05-2012 15:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 993518)
Yes, She didn't fit in with the Royal Family.

I think she was because she was a loose canon - she worked against land mines and one rumour is she intended to start campaigning for the Palastinians. I believe the Gulf War was planned and for one reason she could have spoken out of turn which would have been totally unacceptable for the mother of a Royal Prince's - involved in war. Other reasons as well.

The Queen said to Paul Burrell

"There are powers at work in this country which we have no knowledge about,"

Quote from...

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread287016/pg1

susie123 25-05-2012 17:20

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I see from the poll results that the majority agree that Diana was murdered. I'd be interested to know if these people are also anti the Royal Family in general. Presumably they think that they were the ones behind the assassination, if there was one. :rolleyes:

jaysay 25-05-2012 17:41

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Be quite honest its just another load of conspiracy claptrap, let the woman rest in peace for gods sack

Boeing Guy 25-05-2012 17:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 993588)
That's the second time this month I have to agree with you ... and the fifth time I can actually understand your post;):D.

It's much more dramatic, and, in a sense, romantic to think that she died because of a fiendish plot put together in some secret tomblike office "somewher in London", and not because she was dumb enough to get in a car with a drunk behind the wheel ... and that she compounded this stupidity by not wearing a seat belt.:rolleyes:

When it comes to dying celebs can go just like the rest of us, only in more expensive settings. TS Diana ... you were mortal. Rather than mourn the passing of a saint (thank god she wasn't RC), make a donation to MADD.

With you there Eric and Jay, the facts are all there for all to see.
She was in the back of a Mercedes Benz S class not wearing a seatbelt, yet the passenger in the front seat, who was wearing a seat belt survived.
Surely it would have been easier to tamper with the fuel on the private jet she and Dodi had flown in to Paris on?
The morning of her death, a good friend of mine who sold Mercedes Benz, told me she was not wearing a seatbelt.
Having driven a S class 500, around 12 months before the accident, i can agree with this. They are without equal, even Mrs BG's Volvo is not as solid as one of those:eek:

cashman 25-05-2012 18:00

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Daft fer not wearing a seatbelt- certainly, been guilty of that meself particularly at night,(harder to see me):D I stopped riding motorbikes when they made helmets compulsory,Anti - Royalist me, dunno don't have no truck wi em,:confused: Was she topped- I certainly think so. By the way whats Gods Sack? sounds rather vulgar to me.:D

jaysay 25-05-2012 18:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 993885)
Daft fer not wearing a seatbelt- certainly, been guilty of that meself particularly at night,(harder to see me):D I stopped riding motorbikes when they made helmets compulsory,Anti - Royalist me, dunno don't have no truck wi em,:confused: Was she topped- I certainly think so. By the way whats Gods Sack? sounds rather vulgar to me.:D

:thefinger:thefingerwelcome back cashy:D

Restless 25-05-2012 18:27

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In the book "the accident man" a hitman is setup to kill Diana. He didn't know who his target was and after causing the crash his employers try to kill him. In a twisting turning story that is much like a Bond novel, it tuns out in this fiction version of Diana's death that it was the manufacturers of landmines that had her killed. Makes you wonder if the authors fiction could be somehow close to the actual truth of her death.

Personally I am skeptical about her death-- The Royal Family possibly being nazis and Diana dating a Muslim guy = A recipe for conspiracy

susie123 25-05-2012 18:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 993885)
By the way whats Gods Sack? sounds rather vulgar to me.:D

Next to God's crack...

Waxing: Sack & Crack (Beauty & Grooming Guru) - YouTube

lindsay ormerod 25-05-2012 18:31

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There's a voting option missing off this poll...

Yes
No
Who gives one?:cool:

annesingleton 25-05-2012 18:40

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I'm a sucker for conspiracy theories, but I do think Diana was murdered although in our lifetime we will never know for certain.
I remember her giving a speech shortly before she went away on holiday that summer, saying that when she returned she would have news that would shake the world - this has never been mentioned since. Unfortunately she died before she could impart her news which leads me to the conclusion that it was so shocking it could never be revealed...
How would the establishment or the Royal Family cope with the fact that the mother of the heir to the throne was going to marry a Muslim, or that she was pregnant to a Muslim man?
Additionally she was becoming far too political especially with her interest in landmines and was a definite threat to a lot of people. I rest my case which I think is quite strong and logical (and how clever to blame it on the Al Fayed family for insufficient security) but I think I ought to say that I don't think man landed on the moon either - like I said I'm a sucker for conspiracy theories - but that's for another thread!

Eric 25-05-2012 18:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 993869)
Be quite honest its just another load of conspiracy claptrap, let the woman rest in peace for gods sack

Once again my friend, genius, pure genius;):D

Eric 25-05-2012 18:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 993915)
I'm a sucker for conspiracy theories, but I do think Diana was murdered although in our lifetime we will never know for certain.
I remember her giving a speech shortly before she went away on holiday that summer, saying that when she returned she would have news that would shake the world - this has never been mentioned since. Unfortunately she died before she could impart her news which leads me to the conclusion that it was so shocking it could never be revealed...
How would the establishment or the Royal Family cope with the fact that the mother of the heir to the throne was going to marry a Muslim, or that she was pregnant to a Muslim man?
Additionally she was becoming far too political especially with her interest in landmines and was a definite threat to a lot of people. I rest my case which I think is quite strong and logical (and how clever to blame it on the Al Fayed family for insufficient security) but I think I ought to say that I don't think man landed on the moon either - like I said I'm a sucker for conspiracy theories - but that's for another thread!

The "news that would shake the world" was that she was going to give up banging every guy she met.:rolleyes:

Eric 25-05-2012 18:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 993911)
There's a voting option missing off this poll...

Yes
No
Who gives one?:cool:

Right on, hon. I voted "no"; but "who gives a flying you-know-what" would have been my choice.;)

garinda 25-05-2012 18:56

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She didn't die.

Her character was moved to The Windsor Dynasty spin-off soap, The Spencer-Churchill-Carringtons.

The whole car thing was just a dream.

Boeing Guy 25-05-2012 18:59

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Has Pam been dreaming while Bobby was in the shower again!

jaysay 25-05-2012 19:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 993932)
Has Pam been dreaming while Bobby was in the shower again!

Has Tracie Barlow had another face job:rolleyes:

annesingleton 25-05-2012 19:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 993919)
The "news that would shake the world" was that she was going to give up banging every guy she met.:rolleyes:

Eric I'm shocked, the very idea! I think that given the deal Diana got as a very young girl, she had the right to "bang every guy she met" as a way to get her own back on her husband and his paramour, both of whom should have stood up to the establishment in the first place and not wrecked a young and fragile girl's life for the sake of doing what was considered appropriate.
I'd have done the same myself!

Eric 25-05-2012 20:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 993905)
In the book "the accident man" a hitman is setup to kill Diana. He didn't know who his target was and after causing the crash his employers try to kill him. In a twisting turning story that is much like a Bond novel, it tuns out in this fiction version of Diana's death that it was the manufacturers of landmines that had her killed. Makes you wonder if the authors fiction could be somehow close to the actual truth of her death.

Personally I am skeptical about her death-- The Royal Family possibly being nazis and Diana dating a Muslim guy = A recipe for conspiracy

This landmine thing complicates the issue. The world's leading manufacturers of landmines are, in no particular order, the US, Russia, China, Italy, and, of course, the UK ... the French make one that realeases numerous little white flags:rolleyes: Here in Canada we manufacture one that sprays massive amounts of hot poutine over a large area. So, the Royal Family, and big business in the US, the Russian mafia, etc, etc, get together to off a bathetic bitch who has more photo ops with cute little kids than do Madonna and Mrs. Brad Pitt put together.;) This makes sense.

garinda 25-05-2012 20:26

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Who's the Daddy?

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...YVankhLhRyO1tQ

DaveinGermany 25-05-2012 20:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 993972)

Come on, they're not going to own up to that one are they ? :thankya:

garinda 25-05-2012 20:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 993977)
Come on, they're not going to own up to that one are they ? :thankya:

No one makes a 'dirty little Arab' doll.

:eek:

garinda 25-05-2012 20:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 993983)
No one makes a 'dirty little Arab' doll.

:eek:


That looks so bad, when typed out.

Perhaps I should put a link in, to the old Lanky sayings thread.

:rolleyes::D

DaveinGermany 25-05-2012 21:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 993984)
That looks so bad, when typed out.

Perhaps I should put a link in, to the old Lanky sayings thread.

:rolleyes::D

Too late now fella, you're an IST ! Of some description or other. ;) Saying nasty things like that. :rolleyes:

jaysay 26-05-2012 08:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 993916)
Once again my friend, genius, pure genius;):D

Who Else would unintentionally make you laugh Eric:D

kestrelx 26-05-2012 13:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 993885)
Daft fer not wearing a seatbelt- certainly, been guilty of that meself particularly at night,(harder to see me):D I stopped riding motorbikes when they made helmets compulsory,Anti - Royalist me, dunno don't have no truck wi em,:confused: Was she topped- I certainly think so. By the way whats Gods Sack? sounds rather vulgar to me.:D

Where you been man? ;) Anywhere nice? :)

The point that she wasn't wearing a seat belt causes questions? But what about the issue of the delay getting her to hospital?

Ask yourself this question? Would Diana, if alive be compliant with Harry and Williams military activities - which is a course Prince Charles went down - but would Diana have been an obstruction to that? If so surely maybe someone decided it would be better if she was unable to have any influence over her children. It just seems obvious to me as she didn't get on with the Queen etc. Would Diana have been upsetting the Royal Apple Cart if she was still alive?

kestrelx 26-05-2012 13:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 993972)


James Who? Who? twit... ;)

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...UQ9QEwAQ&dur=0

Boeing Guy 26-05-2012 15:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 994104)
Where you been man? ;) Anywhere nice? :)

The point that she wasn't wearing a seat belt causes questions? But what about the issue of the delay getting her to hospital?

Surely this has something to do with the French way of dealing with accident and emergencies?
Their idea is to provide primary care by Doctor and Nurse, rather than Paramedics as we and the US do. The SMUR, Service Mobile d'Urgence et Reanimation, is the front line. The French though don't set the same priority on Emegency Trauma as we do even paying the Doctors in the SMUR Salarys below £1000 per month (starting salary in 2002).

I am not suggesting she was not murdered, however I see only coincidence here and circumstantial evidence.

garinda 26-05-2012 19:11

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I spent the night before she died at a small party at Kenneth Branagh/Helena Bonham Carter's. I know, forgive me, more name dropping. Yawn.

Diana was the main topic of conversation that night.

Her life that summer had become a bad operetta.

I liked her, in my own republican way.

She was the first high-profile person on the world stage to actually touch an AIDS sufferer. Thus dispelling some myths about how the disease was spread, and helping to breakdown some prejudices. Hardly a safe, cosy cause to take on, at that time.

A selfish reason I liked her, my atracting her as client doubled my salary overnight. Whoo-hoo.

She was flawed.

Who isn't.

I stayed over at friend's house, in alien north London, the night after the party.

I was in the shower, when the door opened, and north London friend said 'Diana's dead.'

I replied instinctively with 'They've killed her.'

With hindsight do I think she was murdered?

No.

I think she died because she wasn't wearing a seat belt.

Neil 26-05-2012 20:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 994174)
I spent the night before she died at a small party at Kenneth Branagh/Helena Bonham Carter's. I know, forgive me, more name dropping. Yawn.

I thought you were going to admit to spending the evening playing drinking games with her driver :eek:

susie123 26-05-2012 20:23

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Can't name drop like you Garinda but I do remember where I was and what I was doing when Diana died. We were on holiday in Pembrokeshire and the morning after she died we had just found about it on the radio. We went off for the day, a Sunday, to look round a reconstructed Iron Age village. It started raining as we got there and all the visitors went into one of the roundhouse huts. There was a fire in the centre there and everybody was gathered round talking about Diana. It was rather surreal and I imagined that would have been how it was, two thousand years ago when anyone had news to impart or talk about.

jaysay 26-05-2012 21:03

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The one thing that did really annoy me is all the memorials which sprang up outside Buck House St James's etc, the places were knee deep in flowers, the only people who got benefit from that was the numerous florists, what a total waste of money just lying there rotting on the floor, It would have done more good, if people felt that way, just to make a donation to one of her charities. That's why I have it written in my will family flowers only donations if you so require to a charity

garinda 26-05-2012 22:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 994191)
The one thing that did really annoy me is all the memorials which sprang up outside Buck House St James's etc, the places were knee deep in flowers, the only people who got benefit from that was the numerous florists, what a total waste of money just lying there rotting on the floor, It would have done more good, if people felt that way, just to make a donation to one of her charities. That's why I have it written in my will family flowers only donations if you so require to a charity

That was the weirdest week I think I ever spent in London.

People wandering up and down, in a world of their own. Tears rolling down their faces, and that was just Princess Margaret, and the Queen Mum.

We were right on the pilgrimage trail to Kensington Palace.

I can't rember how many times I was asked directions there.

To which I replied I'd only oblige, if they'd complete the rest of the pilgrimage on their knees.

:D

Retlaw 26-05-2012 22:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 994191)
That's why I have it written in my will family flowers only donations if you so require to a charity

Hoody Blell John, what am I supposed to do with this prickly cactus I was saving for you. :tongueout
Retlaw

garinda 26-05-2012 22:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 994215)
Hoody Blell John, what am I supposed to do with this prickly cactus I was saving for you. :tongueout
Retlaw

You'll have to wait for morning now, before he tells you what you can do with it.

:D

Neil 26-05-2012 23:50

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I think she was killed for her black Mk1 RS Turbo. There were only a handful made and it would be worth a lot of money especially with its history.

kestrelx 27-05-2012 02:11

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Michael Mansfield QC says

'I believe the relationship between Princess Diana and Dodi al Fayed displeased the authorities.'
Read more: Princess Diana was 'killed after plan to frighten her went wrong' | Mail Online

Fact is anything that threatens the state has to go!

garinda 27-05-2012 04:52

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I think it would have been nice if she'd married Doddy, and had children with him.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IPE-dBSxpc...dy_150x180.jpg

Boeing Guy 27-05-2012 06:03

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The great Michael Mansfield, friend to Bombers etc. I do believe he is a Champagne Socialist.
Still.....

Boeing Guy 27-05-2012 06:05

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 994246)
I think it would have been nice if she'd married Doddy, and had children with him.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IPE-dBSxpc...dy_150x180.jpg

Maybe the Diddy Men killed her?

jaysay 27-05-2012 08:22

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 994215)
Hoody Blell John, what am I supposed to do with this prickly cactus I was saving for you. :tongueout
Retlaw

I could tell you but its a family web site:rolleyes:

jaysay 27-05-2012 08:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 994248)
The great Michael Mansfield, friend to Bombers etc. I do believe he is a Champagne Socialist.
Still.....

Friend to bombers BG or whoever pays the most cash:rolleyes:

jaysay 27-05-2012 08:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 994249)
Maybe the Diddy Men killed her?

Hit me with your tickling stick, hit me:D

kestrelx 27-05-2012 10:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 994248)
The great Michael Mansfield, friend to Bombers etc. I do believe he is a Champagne Socialist.
Still.....

What bombers do you refer to?

You slag him off - yet Tony Blair is a liar and also a Champagne Socialist - Iraq and Afghanistan wars were planned before Diana died (planned by the Bush family) - and Blair lied to fool the public to get them to back him. The next war they plan is against Iran.

susie123 27-05-2012 10:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 994263)
Hit me with your tickling stick, hit me:D

Thought that was Retlaw's prickly cactus? :p

kestrelx 27-05-2012 11:11

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For those who don't believe that people who run this country would do anything "against the law!" Should consider the film "The Bank Job!"

The Bank Job Part 1 - YouTube

Based on a true story in which a bunch of Villians were encouraged to do a bank robbery by British secret services. The purpose was to obtain some alleged photos of Princess Margaret (the Queens Sister) having sex. These photos were the property of a supposed Black Rights Campaigner/ Criminal called Michael X who had escaped prosecution because he owned these photos and threatened to realease them to the press if he was convicted - he was let off.

However this is why the bank job was set up; so as to get the photos back and then they could nick Michael X.

He left the country and over in Trinidad murdered 2 people one of which was the daughter of a top Tory. He was arrested and charged with both murders but never saw court over the murder of the Tory's daughter. I reckon this is because if they had him in court for this it would have brought up a lot dirt that the System wanted buried. Michael X recieved the death sentence. So this is a clear cut case how secret services will do anything if there is a threat to the State or the Royal Family! Is this prickly enough for you!:D

Boeing Guy 27-05-2012 14:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 994308)
For those who don't believe that people who run this country would do anything "against the law!" Should consider the film "The Bank Job!"

The Bank Job Part 1 - YouTube

Based on a true story in which a bunch of Villians were encouraged to do a bank robbery by British secret services. The purpose was to obtain some alleged photos of Princess Margaret (the Queens Sister) having sex. These photos were the property of a supposed Black Rights Campaigner/ Criminal called Michael X who had escaped prosecution because he owned these photos and threatened to realease them to the press if he was convicted - he was let off.

Written by the gents that wrote the Likely Lads, Porridge, Auf Wiedersehen, Pet to name but a few.
Still it makes a good story.

I never liked Tony Blair or any of his cronys, you must be mixing me up with a Socialist, I am a capitalist.


You think they were murdered, I don't. we will never agree on it, so I will cease to post on this subject.

Boeing Guy 27-05-2012 16:15

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Baker Street robbery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

jaysay 27-05-2012 16:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 994334)
Written by the gents that wrote the Likely Lads, Porridge, Auf Wiedersehen, Pet to name but a few.
Still it makes a good story.

I never liked Tony Blair or any of his cronys, you must be mixing me up with a Socialist, I am a capitalist.


You think they were murdered, I don't. we will never agree on it, so I will cease to post on this subject.

Ya sign me up to that one too Si:mosher:

mobertol 27-05-2012 16:54

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 994174)
... do I think she was murdered?

No.

I think she died because she wasn't wearing a seat belt.

I totally agree -lost my brother-in-law for the same reason 9 yrs ago.

Funny how all these icons who meet a premature death end up at the center of a murder conspiracy.

Unless, of course, they were 27 at the time and we know they just wanted to join the club...:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 27-05-2012 18:14

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it doesn't make any difference whether we think she was murdered or not.....it doesn't make her any less dead.

Eric 27-05-2012 20:07

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 994379)
it doesn't make any difference whether we think she was murdered or not.....it doesn't make her any less dead.

And a messy end it was too: well, "the paths of gory lead but to the grave";):D

kestrelx 27-05-2012 20:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 994334)
Written by the gents that wrote the Likely Lads, Porridge, Auf Wiedersehen, Pet to name but a few.
Still it makes a good story.

What you trying to say? Doesn't matter that it was written by these people it was based on fact - Michael X was a real character who was involved in murdering a Tories daughter, the bank job took place as stated. But as usual with many events can't be proved - reality is a strange beast.

People who do wrong are let off every day in court becasue they got a clever lawyer who picked holes in the evidence, so reality and events are often open to negotiation as there is many times there is just not enough witnesses and evidence to prove issues and what definately happened.

Margaret Pilkington 27-05-2012 20:20

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 994399)
And a messy end it was too: well, "the paths of gory lead but to the grave";):D

It is a path we all tread.......some of us at a sedate pace...others rush headlong into eternity.
I know what my choice is.

The old feller next door(just turned 80) said to me yesterday 'eh, there is nowt great about getting old'
I told him that it beats the hell out of the alternative!

Boeing Guy 27-05-2012 20:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 994403)
What you trying to say? Doesn't matter that it was written by these people it was based on fact - Michael X was a real character who was involved in murdering a Tories daughter, the bank job took place as stated. But as usual with many events can't be proved - reality is a strange beast.

People who do wrong are let off every day in court becasue they got a clever lawyer who picked holes in the evidence, so reality and events are often open to negotiation as there is many times there is just not enough witnesses and evidence to prove issues and what definately happened.

I wasn't trying to say anything. Merely providing background to your post. If you wish to believe a movie, well that's up to you:D

Eric 27-05-2012 20:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 994403)
What you trying to say? Doesn't matter that it was written by these people it was based on fact - Michael X was a real character who was involved in murdering a Tories daughter, the bank job took place as stated. But as usual with many events can't be proved - reality is a strange beast.

People who do wrong are let off every day in court becasue they got a clever lawyer who picked holes in the evidence, so reality and events are often open to negotiation as there is many times there is just not enough witnesses and evidence to prove issues and what definately happened.

Sounds like those shows on tv which "document" the search for Nessie or the Sasquatch

... most of what is written, including fiction, is based on fact; if it were not, it wouldn't make any sense to a reader, or viewer. And I certainly don't think "reality" is all that appropriate. Whenever there's a high profile death, there's always a "grassy knoll" lurking around so that sensationalists can make a whole bunch of money. She was a celeb, ok; but celebs die ordinary deaths too ... drunk driver; no seatbelt: ordinary and stupid.

susie123 27-05-2012 20:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 994334)
Written by the gents that wrote the Likely Lads, Porridge, Auf Wiedersehen, Pet to name but a few.
Still it makes a good story.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 994409)
If you wish to believe a movie, well that's up to you:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 994411)
Sounds like those shows on tv which "document" the search for Nessie or the Sasquatch

... most of what is written, including fiction, is based on fact; if it were not, it wouldn't make any sense to a reader, or viewer. And I certainly don't think "reality" is all that appropriate. Whenever there's a high profile death, there's always a "grassy knoll" lurking around so that sensationalists can make a whole bunch of money. She was a celeb, ok; but celebs die ordinary deaths too ... drunk driver; no seatbelt: ordinary and stupid.

Thanks guys for saving me having to put down my thoughts. I'm with you on this one.

Eric 27-05-2012 20:55

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 994413)
Thanks guys for saving me having to put down my thoughts. I'm with you on this one.

As you aren't putting down your thoughts, you might just as well listen to a little John Fogerty;)


I Saw it On TV John Fogerty - YouTube

Eric 27-05-2012 21:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 994406)
It is a path we all tread.......some of us at a sedate pace...others rush headlong into eternity.
I know what my choice is.

The old feller next door(just turned 80) said to me yesterday 'eh, there is nowt great about getting old'
I told him that it beats the hell out of the alternative!

I wonder if Jaysay will get on my case about the "typo" ... I had to think about it ... to him it would come naturally ... a true creative genius that lad;):D

kestrelx 27-05-2012 22:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 994409)
I wasn't trying to say anything. Merely providing background to your post. If you wish to believe a movie, well that's up to you:D

I'm not believing "a movie" I am acknowledging that it was based on some facts. Society in the 60's and 70's was riddled with Police corruption and sexual impropriety and there are many coverups of such activites.

The issue is that any events are always seen differently by the people who see an event and this is well accepted already which is why we have Lawyers - however the way the system works some Lawyers can get people off, even though they were guilty.

What I'm saying is peoples version of events is usually in conflict.

Jill Dando is another case, an incident occuring in broad daylight in a nice urban street and still no one has been prosecuted for it. :cool: No one knows who dunit!?

cashman 28-05-2012 06:56

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The one thing i find odd wi "Dianes" end, Is the fact the majority i have spoke too oer the years seem to think she was topped. In other cases it seems a Minority view?:confused:

Margaret Pilkington 28-05-2012 07:00

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Cashy, she was perceived as a bit of a 'loose cannon' by those in the higher echelons.....so if in the dim and distant future, evidence does come out that she was 'terminated' then, from wherever I am deposited in the after life.....I won't be surprised.

Boeing Guy 28-05-2012 07:01

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Good point Cashy, I just cannot believe she was murdered, if she had worn her seatbelt, she would have survived.
I have just read that no one in the car were wearing seatbelts, the bodyguard survived due to the airbags. The impact speed is estimated at 65 mph, survivable in a S Class.

I would have tampered with the private jet they used to fly up to Paris, it's cleaner and more importantly there is little left afterwards.

cashman 28-05-2012 07:17

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 994454)
Good point Cashy, I just cannot believe she was murdered, if she had worn her seatbelt, she would have survived.

Oh i don't disagree, Maybe Dodi was the real target? It would be pretty well known i would think,that he was averse to wearing a seat belt?

Boeing Guy 28-05-2012 07:25

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Now that is inspired! I had never thought of that.

cashman 28-05-2012 07:28

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 994457)
Now that is inspired! I had never thought of that.

Well if that was the case "Di" would be termed collateral damage.;) I tend to believe that was the case.

susie123 28-05-2012 08:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 994450)
The one thing i find odd wi "Dianes" end, Is the fact the majority i have spoke too oer the years seem to think she was topped. In other cases it seems a Minority view?:confused:

It's not surprising that belief in Diana's murder is a majority view considering the outpouring of mawkishness when she died. They don't want to believe that someone so young and perceived as so saintly could die by accident.

jaysay 28-05-2012 08:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 994466)
It's not surprising that belief in Diana's murder is a majority view considering the outpouring of mawkishness when she died. They don't want to believe that someone so young and perceived as so saintly could die by accident.

Think thats very close to the truth susie

mobertol 28-05-2012 08:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 994466)
It's not surprising that belief in Diana's murder is a majority view considering the outpouring of mawkishness when she died. They don't want to believe that someone so young and perceived as so saintly could die by accident.

I felt sad when she died and was shocked too, (it was so unexpected) but couldn't "get" the level of hysteria surrounding the funeral. Thought the film "The Queen" pointed out this fact very well -it wasn't really the "British" way was it? Whatever happened to the old stiff upper lip?
Was it really all due to Tony Blair's new "touchy/feely" approach - did it mark a decline or was the country already on the slippery slope and beginning to lose it's back-bone?:rolleyes::D

susie123 28-05-2012 08:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 994439)
Jill Dando is another case, an incident occuring in broad daylight in a nice urban street and still no one has been prosecuted for it. :cool: No one knows who dunit!?

I don't think Barry George would be too pleased to hear that no one has been prosecuted for that murder. OK there is no conviction at the moment but George was tried and convicted but the conviction was quashed after three appeals. He was then tried again and acquitted.

garinda 28-05-2012 09:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 994472)
I felt sad when she died and was shocked too, (it was so unexpected) but couldn't "get" the level of hysteria surrounding the funeral.

It wasn't really hysteria. Well not the sort of wailing, and shouting you see on the news, when people die in some Latin/Islamic countries.

It was definitely a very weird mood that week, the likes of which I've never experienced before.

The day of the funeral was a beautiful morning, and for London, despite the crowds, eerily silent for our capital city, without the usual drone of traffic. Even the birds were silent. Probably spooked by the hushed masses, stood underneath their trees.

It certainly wasn't how the British normally behave.

Stiff upper lips were discarded, and stranger comforted stranger. As you might hope would happen, after some terrible incident, such as a terrorist attack.

To see thousands of people stand up, and applaud her brother's eulogy, was quite a sight.

All very odd.

I don't know why lots of people went a bit loopy, but I don't think it will ever happen again.

Lips have stiffened, once more.

When anyone dies at a young age, it's very sad.

With Diana, because of the media coverage there'd been about her, for nearly two decades, everyone seemed to think they knew her personally, even if they didn't particularly like her.

That's the only explanation I can come up with, about the mood of the nation that week.

As to was she murdered.

Dodi was a bit of a summer fling.

You'd have thought her two year affair with Hasnat Khan, and her stated intention to marry him, might have been the time to 'take her out'.

:rolleyes:

jaysay 28-05-2012 09:40

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I think most people will agree its always sad to here of some ones death whether you know them personally or not, but what I couldn't really get my head round was the fact that so many people were stood on the streets of London actually crying as if their closest relative or friend had died, It was a sad occasion and without doubt could have been avoided for many reasons, but if is a very big word, if only. Its close on 15 years since she died and she's still not at rest, time to put it to rest once and for all

garinda 28-05-2012 09:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 994497)
I think most people will agree its always sad to here of some ones death whether you know them personally or not, but what I couldn't really get my head round was the fact that so many people were stood on the streets of London actually crying as if their closest relative or friend had died, It was a sad occasion and without doubt could have been avoided for many reasons, but if is a very big word, if only. Its close on 15 years since she died and she's still not at rest, time to put it to rest once and for all

Agreed, but there aren't that many people alive today who personally knew Jesus.

Doesn't stop millions harking on about his untimely death every year.

Let him rest in peace.

:D

susie123 28-05-2012 09:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 994499)
Agreed, but there aren't that many people alive today who personally knew Jesus.

Doesn't stop millions harking on about his untimely death every year.

Let him rest in peace.

:D

Well let's hope he can, seeing as he missed the end of the world.


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