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From my knowledge of the Cashmeister (by his very own comments ;)), it's more a case of where he's been banned from or kicked out of than worked. :D

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Very few places Mr Dobson, was asked to name the firms i had worked for n dates, this was back in mid 70s, n fer National Insurance purposes,:eek: Took me approx 3 months to figure out, the total then came to 52 jobs, n i never included a few "cash in hand" places.:D

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I suppose that's how you arrived at being Cashman. and beholden to nobody.

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I reckon the correct answer to this question is "everywhere" ;)

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The facade of the Arden looks unchanged Susie.. and yes intriguingly looks like a pub sign on the left where Kemp & Smiths barbers was..

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Certainly on the 1890/1910 map it does show this property as one building :

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I have asked the library staff to research this. They can find no evidence of it having ben a pub. Shops too had cellars accessed from the street using pulleys/block & tackle. I have previously looked at the earliest directories and seen no pubs other than the well-known ones. When Abbey St was young,(say up to 1830) there were only half a dozen pubs in the town

Re: 62 Abbey Street
 

Seem to recall Ribblesdale Coaches next door to Barbers?

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Toffee shop young Mr c, think they were agents for Ribblesdale.:confused:

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I remember when that was a toffee shop, when rationing ended after the war, there were dozens of people jostling to get in the shop, not having much money I didn't bother, saw very little toffeee during the war except for Lythes off Gillie St, he would sell us kids 1d bags of bits that were left over from when he made mint humbugs. Other things were even scarcer oranges & banana's, only ever saw oranges around xmas time, ships during the war carried more important things than fruit.

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Aye that would be it, used to jump on coach yon fer away games mid 60s.:)

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More information...He believes the pub was built in 1827 and ceased being a pub around 1860ish. It was one of three pubs...the Warners, The Red Lion (not the Black Horse as I thought earlier) and this one. The houses around were built so the streets efectively connected the pubs. The address was originally 1 Warner st and 60 Abbey Street. The doctors surgery bought it from Babyland and as I said before the cellar had to be cleared and opened for the survey.
Gary said he watched some workmen empty the cellar and there were old beer barrels and beer pumps and other old pub paraphenalia down there and The owner of Babyland Ronnie Ormerod confirmed it used to be a pub and new the name of it but has flamin forgotten what it was.

Maybe the 1841 and 1851 censuses might throw more light on the matter. Could it have been an Ale house perhaps..were they sightly different to a pub maybe

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In the early wee hours (no pun here Mr c) I was contemplating my navel and my mortality, along with Mr Aguero's great goal against that lot in Red skirts on Monday night* ;)

I mused on was the shop next door to the toffee shop (the one that sticks out) not a tobacconists?

* Oh yes and Drogba's cheeky backheeled goal last night :)

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Now i'm confused:confused: was the one that sticks out not the toffeee shop?

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mmm ..I have a vague memory that you went up a step into the toffee shop?
They may have been combined? I can remember displays of pipes and smoking paraphenalia in the window of the sticky out shoppe I think :confused: