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Margaret Pilkington 16-11-2013 14:39

Re: is Christianity a force for good?
 
You might just as well ask if the internet is a force for good, or a force for evil.

Christianity is a set of beliefs, behaviours and actions that have the potential for good.
It is human beings who distort these values for their own agenda who tarnish a faith.

A knife is a fine tool.....you can use it in peace and in harmony......but it can be used for cruelty and killing......so should we ban knives when the vast majority of people use them safely and as a valuable tool.

Faith, religion and belief are individual choices. Choices which may help some people through times and events that they would struggle to get through without this faith.

I don't consider that people who have a strong religious faith to be weak, or to be ill educated, or gullible....just that they have made a choice for themselves which may have been influenced by some event in their life.

Restless 16-11-2013 15:37

Re: is Christianity a force for good?
 
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1084103)
I cannot understand why a self proclaimed Atheist would start this thread, never mind have a poll about it.

Tuttut les.You know I have never self proclaimed myself to be atheist. But I have said borderline-agnostic-atheist. And I blame the bottle of whisky

Margaret Pilkington 16-11-2013 16:15

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1084081)
Intelligence² Debate Results - Is the Catholic church a force for good in the world? (Hitchslap) - YouTube
interesting results for catholic church

Margaret. Wasn't after lengthy debate. Just results of the poll

I think if you psoe a question like that Rob, you have to be prepared for a debate....lengthy or otherwise.

Eric 16-11-2013 19:56

Re: is Christianity a force for good?
 
I can't answer the question as posed ... and I think that the question is not quite as neutral as it appears. And there is the assumption that we all agree on what is "good" ... I don't think we do. We may come to some reasonably close consensus on the difference between right and wrong, esp. those of us who belong to the generation that had it beaten into them:D ... but right and wrong are not necessarily synonymous with good and evil ... "good" and "evil" carry too much baggage, loaded onto them by various religions.

Now, if I were asked: "Can Christianity be a beneficial force," I could answer. And I would probably say "yes." But so could Islam. Judaism. The WWE even. :rolleyes:

Restless 16-11-2013 20:41

Re: is Christianity a force for good?
 
After spilling my whisky in to my PC that cost me best part of £900. I declare that I am going to try and quit drinking alcohol. So. Then you can rest assure that I probably won't be posting such a thread again

Graham Hartley 17-11-2013 05:29

Re: is Christianity a force for good?
 
For help in answering this question, read the New Testament - particularly those parts which refer to Christ. Don't expect perfect goodness.

jaysay 17-11-2013 08:16

Re: is Christianity a force for good?
 
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Originally Posted by Graham Hartley (Post 1084232)
For help in answering this question, read the New Testament - particularly those parts which refer to Christ. Don't expect perfect goodness.

I prefer the Dandy or Beano myself;)

Boeing Guy 17-11-2013 10:48

Re: is Christianity a force for good?
 
Well we have had the Crusades, 30 years war, Lebanese Civil war, the Northern Ireland troubles and currently the war in Afganistan.
I would say no, religion is not a force for good.

However Oxfam, Médecins Sans Frontières, Band Aid, Save the Children, Action Aid etc are all non government or have religious conections, yet save many many lives worldwide.

Less, in the other thread, said that the people of Africa were quite happy until the Missonarys came and taught them the way of the Lord.
Having seen the corruption and poverty in various parts of Africa, I even have had a AKMS (folding stock version of AK47, I think) aimed at me and my crew in Nigeria, I feel I am able to comment on this.

Graham, welcome, please be aware we have a quota for preachers of the good book and that is already taken by your brother K99wrd:D

JCB 17-11-2013 11:17

Re: is Christianity a force for good?
 
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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1084267)

Graham, welcome, please be aware we have a quota for preachers of the good book and that is already taken by your brother K99wrd:D

The trouble , BG , is that they are not preaching the good book but their own opinions .

I could take a Bible and use it to justify almost anything simply by taking things out of context .

The Bible says : " There is no God . " :eek:

People may not believe that , but it's in the Bible . ;)

Eric 17-11-2013 18:09

Re: is Christianity a force for good?
 
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1084238)
I prefer the Dandy or Beano myself;)

Don't forget "Topper" and "Eagle":D

jaysay 18-11-2013 08:22

Re: is Christianity a force for good?
 
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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1084351)
Don't forget "Topper" and "Eagle":D

ya the free gifts were wizard :D

DtheP47 20-11-2013 08:41

Re: is Christianity a force for good?
 
As peoples lives got better through time they had the time to worry about death.
With the invention of heaven came greater optimism and it enabled people to look beyond their lives.
Interesting too that the peoples of the Americas came up with the self same ideas as Eurasia and Africa.
i.e. If crops failed there were the same kind of conclusions, the same kind of gods and the same kinds of people trying to please the gods.

Eric 20-11-2013 14:51

Re: is Christianity a force for good?
 
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1084428)
ya the free gifts were wizard :D

Talking of "Wizard" ... I enjoyed that too ... and "Rover" ...

Oh ... and please don't say "free gifts," or the smoke will be coming out of Susie's ears.:s_fmad:;):D

By the way, in what sense is Christianity a "force"? Smacks a little of "Onward Christian Soldiers" ... or, come to think of it, Jedi Knights.:D

kestrelx 20-11-2013 16:18

Re: is Christianity a force for good?
 
If your a bible bashing, do gooder - Yes! - but remember "the road to hell is paved with good intentions!" :dflam::)

susie123 20-11-2013 16:30

Re: is Christianity a force for good?
 
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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1084608)
Talking of "Wizard" ... I enjoyed that too ... and "Rover" ...

Oh ... and please don't say "free gifts," or the smoke will be coming out of Susie's ears.:s_fmad:;):D

By the way, in what sense is Christianity a "force"? Smacks a little of "Onward Christian Soldiers" ... or, come to think of it, Jedi Knights.:D

There was also Hotspur - yes, I enjoyed boys' comics more than the girlie ones. Did I ever tell anyone on here that I went to college with the brother of the man who invented the Bash Street Kids ? Leo Baxendale from Preston.

Talking of free gifts, the true facts (heh heh) are that I hate another relatively modern idiom which really sets my teeth on edge - a final ending, finally we got to the end ofthe road etc. AAARRRGGHHH!!! Do I really look like that when I'm fuming...not a pretty sight!


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