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"Any person who lights up and smokes in front of a child is a prat, in my view, and we as a House should not be legislating on that"-Ian Paisley jnr.

Is a ban on smoking in vehicles (when children are present) the nanny state gone mad, or an important public health measure an Ecigs are a answer?.
Why should smokers be forced to smoke outside?,Whats next banning smoking in our own homes?
I supported the smoking ban when it was introduced around 2007, but now I think too many businesses (pubs,restaurants etc) suffered because of it :(.
I think there's much more damage being caused by the vehicles,for example,every flight leaving the airport is like pushing a pack of 20cigs down mother natures throat,the atmosphere is kinda an enclosed space too :rolleyes:.

Have they a the hidden agenda? :eek:
Smoking in cars: the hidden agenda behind the ban | Zoe Williams | Comment is free | The Guardian

Whats your thoughts? :hidewall:

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I think that`s pretty much spot on, trouble is, there are a lot of prats about who do need telling.

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Prats i agree, but this is P.C. gone mad, Council workers are now told not to smoke "Before" even entering a tenants house.:rolleyes: Ridiculous n stupid state of affairs n anyone who agrees its good,is just as stupid n pathetic in my view.

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I just quickly read that, did it mention a hidden agenda or are you trying to make us think there was one?

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Different situation Cashman, this is smoking in a confined space with children present, forcing them to breathe in cigarette smoke. Completely irresponsible in this day and age when everyone knows what damage smoking does.
Not that a ban will make the slightest difference. Anyone willing to do that to their own kids will take no notice of a ban anyway.

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We are well aware of that, its stupid end of!! simple as, How on earth would such a ban be enforced?? Mobiles in cars being a good example. All this is to me is richardheads trying to score brownie points.

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No.

It is not possible to legislate against stupid* people having children, so you have to do the next best thing. People who are willing to smoke in a confined space with children present do not care about the child, so you need to hit them somewhere that they do care about, like their wallet.

* Couldn't think of a better word, sorry. It seems to best describe the heavily pregnant woman standing outside her front door in Great Harwood a week ago, having a fag. So she doesn't want the smell of cigarette smoke in her curtains and sofa, but the toxins polluting her unborn child are OK?

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It is crazy. Banning smoking in cars(when children are present) is all very well but it will not be policed.
It is illegal to use a mobile whilst driving, but I see so many people doing this...and how many people are convicted? Not many I'll be bound.
Adults know that smoking in the presence of children is wrong(for a number of reasons)...but they still do it.
And is it any different from smoking while sat in the living room with your child...the area may be bigger but the exposure to cigarette smoke is still there.

The government get far too much into its coffers to come out and ban smoking outright.
And though I do not trust statistics, I read that now there are only one if five people who smoke conventional cigarettes.

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Any person that brings a child into a designated smoking area then complains is a bigger prat.

One nice warm summers day a woman brought her brood outside sat at a table in the middle of a crowded smoking area and complained to all that could hear about the smoky atmosphere she and her children were having to endure.
I explained to her that she was in a smoking area and that as a non smoker she had the run of the inside of the establishment but out here belongs to the smokers, she stayed drinking large quantities of alcohol allowing her children to run riot with no parental guidance until she was well and truly smashed, then staggered off supposedly responsible for the children, now, that's a prat!
:o

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I wouldnt smoke with a child in the car (but i use my Ecig).
Its just country seems a far more feeble place than it use to be,Everything is getting banned or regulated.
It must be rather dismal to be a kid in todays age with all the banned, regulated behavior in place.

selfish,dangerous? perhaps, but life was more exciting when I could sit in the back of my uncles old ford escort(without a belt),while he smoked about 15 woodbine on the way to Bpool (with the windows up) at 80mph.
Even if it was less healthier/safe.

"Secondhand smoke causes numerous health problems in infants and children, including severe asthma attacks,
respiratory infections, ear infections, and sudden infant death syndrome, Some of the health conditions caused by secondhand smoke in adults include heart disease and lung cancer"-
CDC - Fact Sheet - Health Effects of Secondhand Smoke - Smoking & Tobacco Use.

Its true but like cashman says its just "richardheads scoring brownie points".



Coming soon to a school near you:

Cameras on poles outside schools to catch folk smoking with kids in the car.
Penelty: £50 fine and points on your licence.
Get caught with a king edward and you might get banned from driving :eek:

:D

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Some people only have spit for brains!

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They could always put cameras on Union Rd Ossy n catch "KIDS" smoking on the way to school, ive seen quite a few.:D:D:D:D

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Just throwing it in the pot ;)

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Do you have any idea what is in that Ecig you are sucking on?

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Yes they do and the easier computers get to use, more of them tend to consider AccyWeb their home. Bring back Windows 95 that will stop them getting online.
:)

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:eek::D

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I smoke lots of that too;) ... but not in my car, or even before I drive ... it's the impaired thingy.:D

What I object to about the anti-smoking nazis is that they have made smoking a moral issue ... smoker's are BAAAAD people, weak, ill-bred, and ill-educated:rolleyes:.

Our Feds have just added another $4.00 to a carton of smokes. This will mean lots more trips to Tyendenaga where the Mohawks are still selling smokes at about $12.00 a carton (200) ... a little rough, but they do the job. And govts. are still hypocritically damning smoking as they collect billions in taxes ... which they wisely spend on new fighter jets, warships, and more nuclear power plants (at the same time, they are cutting back on funding for day care, health care, education, and veterans' pensions) ... oh, let's not forget their bloated expense accounts.

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Nope :confused:

Hopefully not half as many as the 70 cancer causing chems that are allegedly in standard smokes :confused:

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I don't agree with parents smoking close to children, be that in the home or anywhere else...but I do object to the government meddling and nannying.
If they were so worried about the health issues that surround smoking then they would have the cojones to ban them from sale, close down the factories, take the ciggies off the market, but then where would they get the kind of revenue that smokers cough up(pun intended)...Oh yeah - motorists!

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I wonder?
Do I as a life time prat smoking on average 20 a day have a no win no fee case against the establishment?

You see I left school at the tender age of 15 and went straight into the Royal Navy, back then people under 16 weren't allowed to purchase ciggys and for me to join up my parents had to sign a form passing on guardianship to the Navy.
I was then a no smoker however even though we recruits were obviously under the legal age to buy, the NAAFI on camp sold us cigs, the breaks between lessons were called smoko's and we could if we were quick get through 2 fags before the end of the break.

Like many others that's when I started smoking, so, the Navy being part of the establishment do I have a case of recompense for the neglect of parental supervision that led to me now being a pariah among all other 'right' thinking people.

I also wonder how many others of similar age that joined the forces are still smoking?



:D

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I have never smoked....I have only ever smouldered...and that has depended on who I am with :D:D:D

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Will the ban cover Ecigs?

"e-cigs pose no danger to your health, or others, with no tar, or carcinogens passed on via passive smoking. So the advice is to use E-Lites electronic cigarettes to avoid the smoking ban in cars".-http://www.e-lites.co.uk/smoking-ban-in-cars.

"There*are*many*myths*and*misconceptions*about*ele ctronic*cigarettes.*Let's*separate*fact*from*ficti on".
http://casaa.org/uploads/8_Biggest_E...ette_Myths.pdf

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Time for a comedic interlude:

Stand Up Comedy Denis Leary - Smoker! - YouTube

Feel free to smoke as you watch it.;)

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Love a good comedian, but that guy aint one.:eek: As funny as a fart in a spacesuit. imho.

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nicorette probbably started the nasty lies about e-gigs because they have the monopoly on the NHS help to give up smoking .What they will like even less is that e-giggs may be becoming available via smoking sessation groupls ran by the NHS so nicorette will either have to endure double standards and make tehir own e-cigg or go bust trying to pedal their vile gum and even more vile mouth spray that works for very few people

mind you e-gigs are bloomin addictive too but if you mix your owen liquid you can reduce nicotine content gradually to zero pretty quickly

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I've split views on this one.
On one hand I see the obvious sense in not smoking in cars (with kids present) due to health issues,protecting them that cant protect themselves etc.
But on the other we should be able to do it in the privacy of our own home, car, and the like.Plus (I THINK) we should be allowed to smoke in private places such as restaurants,pubs (at the owner's discretion).
Gov seem to be taking away more of our freedoms every day.

You can give a child second even third hand smoke from clothes,car seats, furniture, carpets :eek:
Protect Children from Third Hand Smoke Exposure | About Us | Norris Cotton Cancer Center
Parents who smoke only in garden may still harm children, doctors warn - Telegraph

Should they make it so that everyone quits smoking?
Or should those of us who do smoke be cast out into the cold for our filthy carcinogens and polluting ways? :)

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The problem is, when it comes to smoking, there is no compromise, someone is always going to lose their freedom of choice.
From a non-smokers point of view, I want to be able to go to my favourite pub or restaurant without having to breathe in second hand smoke, I want to be able to sit in a works canteen or travel with workmates to a job again, without being forced to smoke. Now, with the smoking ban I can do all these things, but at the expense of the smokers freedom of choice. Unlucky on them. I`ve had to breathe in their carp for long enough, they can stand out in the cold if they want a fag.

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Smoking is an addiction......so something started to be with the 'in' crowd soon becomes something that you can't stop.
I never started...I wasn't sure that the 'in' crowd was where I wanted to be....I didn't like the smell of cigarettes and felt sure that they would taste as vile as they smelled.

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Well, that just about sums it up, eh.:rolleyes:

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For thirty odd years it was the response of smokers to me - "if you don`t like my smoke go and stand outside", now the boots on the other foot they don`t like it.

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Fair enough. If you come to visit us I know what to say now.

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I cannot recall ever being treated like that by smokers.

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As far as private residence go, that`s fair enough.

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Perhaps you are more pleasant to have as company?
:)

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No perhaps about it.:p

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I try to be.

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So, what began as a health "issue" has morphed into petty vindictiveness:confused: ... fascinating.:rolleyes:

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I don't think it's about health,if it's was they'd ban cars themselves :D
Is a car deemed a "public place"?
The Interior Of Your Car Is A Public Place | JONATHAN TURLEY
And being enclosed, deemed a 'enclosed public space'?
If that's the case it's been illegal to smoke in cars (regardless of age) since they restricted smoking in 'enclosed public places'.I dont recall seeing much of that being enforced.:rolleyes:
Enforcing this silliness will only take away from more serious traffic issues.
Maybe advice over enforcement is the answer.
It's obvious you don't smoke in a car with a child,my uncle back in the day is about the only person I've seen do it :eek:

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ah but, e-lites and Cassa both have a vested interest in the selling and use of E Ciggies,
Personally I could not care less if you smoke them.
But there is no real control so no one really knows what the long term effects will be.

Just a thought, but this sopunds similar to the stuff Big Tobacco comes out with.


Thank you for Smoking - Trailer - YouTube

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We don't really have a say in the matter,Stephen Fry, Chris Tarrant,David Hockney, Tory MP Boris Johnson and Bob Geldof to name a few all opposed the smoking ban in 2004 even writing a letter claiming:-

(Edit - Please can I remind people that copy and pasting text from BBC sites is not allowed, posting a link to the story is ok - Neil )

BBC NEWS | UK | Stars oppose public smoking ban

What's folks thoughts on separating kids into a space where they won't be at risk (for instance the boot) :D or like taxis do have a glass/plastic divide?

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Lets face it both the Anti Smoking Nazi's (Ash) and the Big Tobacco lobby (Forrest) will use statistics and studies to their benefit.
Of course Celeb's have a right to say what they like, but again they are biased, just as we are, non smokers will prefer not to breath in secondhand smoke and have their clothes smelling of smoke just as smokers want to smoke where they want.

As to separate children area's, I am all for it, but could we extend it to pubs/restaurants/ shopping centres etc so those of us who do not want to be assualted by Britney/Robbie etc

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Not vindictive, just an observation.

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What a waste of server space, was there really a need to copy and paste that & put a link on?
The link would have done.
By the way, I have reported the post because the BBC don't mind links being put on but do object to using the content.
The site has been threatened by them with legal action before now, please be careful, oh, make sense as well, the post of village idiot is filled and I don't think c'mon plans to leave just yet.
:)

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Perhaps, a vindictive observation?
:)

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More a drunken one.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ys/drunk05.gif

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I did cut some bits out less an I know a lot of folk on here like their original ink,you may be right ;) anyway:

Thanks for reporting it,and being the pee in my cyber pants.
By that, I mean having your friendly input on my threads is similar to peeing myself,everyone can see it but only I can feel the true warmth :D :p

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No maybe about it I'm right the been are very sensitive, as for the rest of that post...


...pathetic, childish, attempt at humour you'll fit in well when you settle down.

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As someone who never smoked but had to put up with being "smoked" just to socialize, I totally agree with smoking bans in public areas however, your car, your home, your canoe?? are not public areas, common sense and respect should dictate who you smoke around in these places.

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I have removed the BBC copy and paste as it is against the rules.

Why do these so called celebrities think that anyone cares what they think?

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Why do these newbies never read the rules?
:)

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Less, maybe they do...and then forget what they say. I have read the rules, but a long time ago...so maybe I have been downside of one or two of them too.

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Oh come on Neil....they like to think their views are important...and that we will hang on every word.

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An observation of what:confused:

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That smokers don`t like it now the boot`s on the other foot.

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Smokers i know dont really give a toss, But stupidity gets most folks goat.;)

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What other foot?

A restriction on one persons freedom makes it easier to put restrictions on other peoples freedom.

Watch out, the next restriction could be about your freedom to complain.

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It`s what`s known as an idiom (and that`s not a typo):p

Not just mine I hope.

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The erosion of freedom is so insidious that it is barely perceptible...and our freedoms are being eroded at every turn...the PC brigade have done more to erode freedom than any other body...so I get what Less is saying.

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Let's be honest, the thread was started on old news, we have all come to terms with the fact smokers have to go outside.
It is working, smokers go outside.
But, where are the non smokers that we were told would fill these establishments once they were made smoke free?
Still sitting at home complaining whenever they can about smokers, so, the laws have changed but no-one seems to have won, unless of course you are petty enough to think that making someone else's life less enjoyable is a plus.

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Ah ... you are now the spokesman for the smokers.:rolleyes: And you are maybe suggesting that smokers supported and promoted punitive, politically correct, and really quite silly laws that prevented non-smokers from not smoking?

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Eric that's daft, well done.

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Grist to t'mill and in endorsement of that Mr C
Pic taken recently outsida' a local hostelry...

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All that lovely tax! Keep it up, smokers.

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I pay VAT on my mars bars and coca cola but I don't litter the streets with the cans and wrappers Gordon ;)

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No, I just speak for me, and I`ve heard plenty of ex-work mate smokers complaining that they now have to go outside for a smoke. :dummy2:

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Every town center you walk round is littered with take away cartons, plastic bags, chewing gum, Mars Bar wrappers, Coca Cola cans etc.

Are you denying it's you?:rolleyes:

Give them their own little smoking room with a pint and an ashtray and they won't make a mess or bother anyone! Just like the good old days!

Anyway, doesn't it give you a warm glow seeing how the smokers are saving you all that extra income tax?

VAT- that's nothing.Try smokers tax!

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The only thing that used to give me the hump was that when I was working, the smokers used to slope off for a fag.....leaving those who didn't smoke to carry on looking after the patients.....so they were taking extra (paid for) breaks.

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That used to wind me up also. Fortunately, no smokers where I am now, but if there were, they could smoke on official breaks only.

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Well, I have to say that those smokers who disappeared every once in a while were monitored, and they were warned to cut back on these unofficial breaks......some opted to have nicotine patches while they were working.

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A non smoker once asked me about the time I spent stood in the cold smoking.
I pointed out that I'd just watched them chatting for over half an hour, stood in a warm office- and they still weren't working.
We all need a break, whether it's for a smoke or just a chat.

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In my job, patients came first.....before recognised official breaks.
If a patient required looking after, then that always came first....no,question!
If there were times when we were quiet(and these were not often) then I could always find plenty of things to do......I didn't mind the staff chatting while they were unpacking and checking the clean linen.

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No argument!

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I am so glad about that Gordon :)

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Do you know they weren`t working, I often spend time in the office chatting about work.

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Yes.

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Skivers are skivers, whether it`s for an unofficial fag break or standing around chatting, it`s down to their supervisor to stamp it out.

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Are you sure a car isn't a public area?
The Interior Of Your Car Is A Public Place | JONATHAN TURLEY

A legal ruling by Justice Waller and Lord Justice Rose on February 25th 1993 stated that the interior of a private car on a public highway is,
for the purposes of the Act, a public place.

Dangerous Dogs Act - The struggle against Breed Specific Law :confused::confused:

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Does that mean a bit of leg'or and chips on the back seat is illegal?:p

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Short answer is Yes (for the purposes of the sexual offences act).
Like most things we enjoy the government will find a way of restricting it :D

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You are talking out of your brown starhole Gordon.. you'll be advocating we all toss our zero rated apple core in the street just to keep the street sweepers in gainful employment next.

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We get a huge amount of tax per year from ciggies ,but does the extent of tax generated pay for the smokers healthcare?

Should smokers receive NHS treatment for smoking related illnesses? If so,should they be forced to pay more taxes due to the costs they impose on non smokers?

Children (may) suffer from a range of (secondhand) smoking related heath problems but if smoking was banned in cars with kids , would these health issues be eradicated?

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How do you know the colour?

Have we met?:eek:

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No.. Yes....No...and No.
If the NHS were to ration or charge for illnesses that could have been caused by lifestyle choices then more than just smokers would be paying for treatment.
Those who are daibetic could be seen to have contributed to their illness by adopting junk food diets....drinkers would be charged if they fell down and broke a limb while under the influence...and imagine the bills for those who develop mental illness from smoking weed. Girls who went out and got a bun in the oven after a one night stand would be charged for their maternity care(or sexually transmitted disease). I am sure there are more things that could be added to my not so extensive list.

The administration of such costs would be a nightmare. For goodness sake get real. The NHS cannot even get its act together to charge those who use the NHS and are from overseas(this should be easy to administrate) so what chance do they have of charging for such things?

Children of smokers may not be subject to second hand smoke in cars if anyone takes notice of this legislation...but they will still be subject to second hand smoke in their homes...and over a much longer period of time.
If smoking is such a serious helath issue for the government(personally, I don't think they really care, but they just have to LOOK like they do) then they would ban it on health grounds, close down the factories that make cigarettes and issue all smokers with nicotine replacement therapy of their own choice.
But we all know that the revenue from smokers is so large, that they couldn't possibly do that.

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Add any contact sport or pastime that could cause accidental harm during it's per suit and triple the bill if that person is also a smoker.
;)

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Government income from tobacco tax- £12.1 billion.
Cost to NHS- £ 2.7 billion
Profit?- £ 9.4 billion
The tax represents 2.3% of total Govt income!

These are figures from ASH!
It should be Govt policy to encourage smoking, even subsidize it. It's a hugely profitable industry.

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If smokers die younger (like we're lead to believe)
How much do smokers save the NHS by popping their clogs early, before they get alzheimer's etc and become in need of years of care or before they claim their share of old age pension due to passing away from smoking related illness's? ;)

In 2009 Smoking cost the NHS £5bn a year.
one in five deaths in the UK in 2005 could be attributed to smoking.
For those that like original ink
Smoking costs NHS £5bn a year

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Your figures and Gordon's are at a variance.

I don't really value statistics from anyone(however reputable the source) unless I can see the criteria for inclusion into the study, and also who commissioned the study and why it was commissioned.
Most studies are commissioned by bodies who want to show that their theories are true...and then the criteria and questions are formulated to reflect the outcome that was wanted by the commissioners.

These facts have to be borne in mind when looking at statistics.
In my book statistics are just another way to bamboozle and lie.

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As to your questions about the savings that are accrued as a result of people not getting to pension age.....well, just pluck a figure out of the air...there is a 95% chance that you will be close to anything that government figures would suggest.

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I was using ASH figures because they're anti smoking so are unlikely to underestimate.
But, hey ho, if it's £5 billion it's still a £7 billion profit- not even the banks can match that profit ratio.
As you say, Margaret, people use the statistics which suit their purpose.

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Yes, Gordon...I got that loud and clear. Ash is the least likely to underestimate the figures. It is just me with my cynical head on.......

I have looked at so many research studies for my work, and when you looked at the commissioners and what they wanted to portray....it always worked out that the figures proved what they wanted them to prove...but only because anything that was likely to disprove was excluded from the study by the criteria and questions.

It was a research scientist that told me always to look a bit deeper.

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I usually roll my own and have a similar trait when it comes to smoking.
Yesterday I bought an actual pack of ciggies, I tell you what, smoking ready made makes it so much easier to chain smoke, I'm sticking with roll ups from now on, much healthier.

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That is very true, But what also occured to me as i digested that post, is the fact " Theres more logic in that, than owt Cmons "EVER" posted.;):D

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Logic - C'mon .... my how we chuckled! :D

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Wise choice,I roll my own too,tailor-made ciggies cost a packet ;)
Is there any occasion you don't have a icon for? :D

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Nope, I have a whole WWW to search and nothing but time to search it in. Tell Graham that is about as serious as I get.


http://socialmediamarketingkelowna.c...-on-laptop.jpg

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I used to work with a smoker, when he went on a smoke break I went with him for a passive smoke break

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Most folk waste time in one way or another at work , the difference is smokers are targetted because of social stigma (and the ease in proving they are not working). :D
Besides they might stay in the office later to finish work off, they may skip lunch... There are numerous times when we all work extra time and it is not noted. And I've seen non-smokers take 10 minutes to go to the bog :eek:
Some folk are lazy other aren't so.:D

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Research has show that folk will believe anything long as it's been researched ;)

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Don't they waste survey space? ;)

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Do you mean
A/server space?
Or
B/space that could be used for a survey?

If A/ then no they don't nothing I post wastes server space, your the one that does that.

If B/ then no the only surveys that waste space are the polls C'mon & kestrelx sometimes start their threads with.
;)