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As it now seems that there is no doubt that skullduggery ( spelling ?) took place in Blackburn does anyone feel like me that the whole Asian community should be disenfranchised for the forthcoming local and national polls ?

I say that because I feel sure it didn`t happen without at least the majority of the community having some knowledge of what was going on.

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I think I will keep my comments to myself on this one, for now.

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no but i think anyone involved in it should be jailed or at the very least have their right to vote revoked for ever

i also think that you shoukd have to be in the uk for a minimum of 10 years before you get the right to vote

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I cannot see any justification in withdrawing the franchise from the whole barrel simply because some of the apples are rotten. I do however support the idea that it should be a privilege to be earned. I also think that postal voting is clearly open to fraud and should be abandoned.

However, even though the Government has been aware of the frauds perpetrated in last year's elections they have declined the opportunity to disallow it for the coming General Election. Are they hoping that there will be a repeat performance perhaps?

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Well THOTH, aren't you out to make a name for yourself? As you may have noticed I try to get my points across with just a little bit of humour (& occasionally tolerence), however after all that we have discussed you manage to put forward an extremely racist view! Yes, there is something wrong with a system that allows a few people to take advantage of the honest members of the public, but it won't have just been the Asian Community & it certainly doesn't mean that all of the Asian Community should be condemned for the sake of the few, if we are to follow your thinking the only advantage we have over the Nazis is that we don't have to pin the star of David on them, we can go by their colour!

(Did I stay on thread o.k. that time?):o

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Fair point, not allowed to vote until you've lived in the country for 10 years, there's also the case of an ex-pat member of accyweb who got upset because the govenment where removing his right to vote even though he hadn't lived in this country for at least 5 years.

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It's Troths point of view whether you agree or not that's what makes this a good forum, lots of different opinions to be discussed.

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His name is THOTH, it IS his view & I for one think that it is a view shared by many stupid people BUT my view is that he is wrong. (the fact that I can disagree with such moronic waffle is what makes this a good site).

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Bigotted attitude.

It happened in Blackburn so how would you feel if Blackburn were not allowed to return an MP at the next general election?

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Jack Straw is Blackburns MP as we know so some people may argue you've answered your own question.

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The really ironic part about it was that the guy in question had enough of the votes to win without the fraudulent votes......but the fraudulent votes were sniffed out and now he may go to Jail and his reputation is ruined forever.
Postal voting is, in my view,a very suspect way of conducting political affairs.

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i cant understand why polititians need to commit ballot fraud

is the simple method of false prommises not working any more....?

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Well seeing as this one was uncovered maybe that will make people think twice in future especially as he would have won anyway and now faces a possible jail sentence. I hope he is locked up and that will serve as a future deterrent.

Jack Straw Bagpuss? Are you indicating some might prefer to see less of him?:D He's not quite as ubiquitous as PB.

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It was introduced to enable more people to vote.

I was unable to vote at one general election because I was working such long hours that I could not get to my polling station.

I would actually rather vote via internet - much much easier and more convenient.

As for immigrants voting, I am for the 10 year limit.

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Definitely the 10 year residence. It is appalling that someone can walk off the next boat, never having contributed anything to this country, and vote in the next local/general election. Tony Blair won't do anything about it because of the slogan "Immigrants, vote Labour for your rights" - spread all over London at successive general elections.

Back on one of my favourite themes - rights carry responsibilities. Other countries will not allow non-nationals to vote - why not restrict it to those who are born citizens of this country and those who voluntarily take British nationality (mind you, a bit of a problem, since we collared half the world in colonial times and gave them all the right to British passports!). However, we are letting nationals of other countries vote in OUR elections ..... then we wonder how and why the lunatics have been given the key of the asylum.

Postal voting doesn't work. It is open to appalling abuse, as has become obvious. If you can't get to the polling station, you can appoint someone as a proxy vote - I've done it for ex-pat friends before now. Postal voting is unnecessary and dangerous.

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I think you'll find that the Asian Community have their own websites, i.e. www.AlQuida.com, www.oneman.tenvotes.com

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Well that response just says it all. I'm sorry that the Asian community has appalled you so greatly with there complete support for the mass murder of people leaping from skyscrapers in order to die that way instead of feeling there skin burn.

I hope that your views aren’t seen by the Asian community Mr. tealeaf because comments like that must be quite damaging to an already much misunderstood community.

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I don't want to get into a race issue debate,all I want to say is that everyone should vote,I don't care what party you vote for,anyone who cheats should get jailed,and anyone can ask for a postal vote if you want one,So no excuse not to vote! Spoil the paper if you think that they are all a bunch of wasters,that's my 3p's worth!

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Oh my...I nearly choked on my coffee!! Too funny!!;)

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Slightly confused with your question but to answer what I think you are asking I need to elaborate on my original posting.

The extent of the use of other peoples votes suggests to me that a large number of the community knew what was going on. Did any of them complain? I see an analogy in that situation with a current issue in Belfast. ie: domination of the many by the few.

If this had been happening in Peel Ward to that extent I am sure I would have known about it and of course drawn it to the attention of the appropriate authority.

My view centres around the amount of votes involved and as I consider it a community matter I would make the community relinquish the right to vote at the next election.

Nothing at all to do with a racial issue.

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Why are we talking about the Asian community? We are supposed to be ONE community, not splinter groups with differing interests. If we take that view, it is no wonder that there is racial unease and unrest.

Do we/the Asian community consider that our interests differ? If so, how and why? And what can/should we do about it?

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I wish I'd have posted that reply.

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http://www.ukasian.co.uk/

Try this site Bagpuss, you could post the reply and see how **** funny they find it?

Or how about starting the same thread but with some more input?

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Didn't an Asian voter complain when turning up to vote and being told that their vote had already been used?

You can't put a blanket blame on one section of the community.

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Well you could try, but I don't think they understand/speak proper English. And before anyone jumps on me for being racist - its all childish textspeak on that site.

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It's just gibberish to me

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http://www.ukasian.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=366

A fine example of the sort of posters there. This seems to be a pretty typical thread.

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Well JSmith, give me one good reason why you think I should visit the site you recommend, I am quite happy to contribute in my own little way to the Accyweb and feel that I would have nothing to contribute to the forum of the ukasian site, besides I very much doubt they have posters with the wit of Tealeaf amoungst others so if you have no objections I will stay here, thank you !!!