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:p Is there anyone who remembers Crawshaw Street before it became a car park, as a child I lived there, on the corner there was a blacksmiths shop, as kids we used to watch the horses being shoe'd opposite corner was the Blockade hotel.

Next to our house was the Horseshoe pub, (get the blacksmith connection) in the street all the kids used to play out together this was in the early 50's.

If Jean Haworth (who married Carl Baker)
Roy Hudson
Derek Gardiner
Carl Baker ( mother had Tower Cafe chip shop, near the old Jo Mort's, father was an actor)(Carl had a car sales site in Clitheroe)
Read this I would be delighted to hear from them.
I am Terry.

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yep remember crawshaw st, horseshoe was n old watering hole of mine, had a a family i knew lived on school street just before the "Nags" theres a few posts about area somewhere in nostalgia section.:)

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Yes, remember the Nags from those days, its completely modernised now.
School Street in those days had behind the Horseshoe was the Observer offices, then a big joinery company, the name escapes me, the only family I remember living on School street was Roy Hudson and his mother, they lived behind the Nags Head.

Crawshaw Street Accrington
 

Hi, Have A Look At The New Book On Accrington By One Of Our Members, Mr Bob Dobson. He Has A Photo Of Crawshaw Street In It.
Its A Good Book

Atarah

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Used to go by there every day on my way to work at the gas works on Hyndburn Rd. The blacksmith was Harold Fitzpatrick I think.

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Hi Cooinda,
Yes, I remember Crawshaw Street from a long time ago, and have been in that area a number of times over the last few years (haven't lived in Accy for many years). Must confess to have had the occasional pint in the Blockade in the late 1950s/early 1960s. Tell me, please, do you remember an address around the corner in School Street - Stephen's Court? Some ancesters lived there many years ago but I do acknowledge that it might not have existed in your time...
Best wishes,
davidf

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seem to remember harry cowell joiners up that street and was it the roy hudson that worked at gilbraiths

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:pHi ossykid.

;)I think you are right about the Blacksmiths name, you will also have passed Musgraves the Health food shop, was it Broughtons fireplace shop opposite, My father worked at Ewbank also along Hyndburn road in Electricity street I think.I used to walk along Hyndburn Road to Hyndburn Park School, often on the way home we would walk via Morton Street (gone now) to watch the cows being taken into the slaughterhouse, later when I had a saturday job with Sharpes butchers on Blackburn road apart from delivering orders on the butchers bike I had to occasionally collect a bucket of bits :eek:from Morton Street for Mr Sharpe to make his black puddings.

Hows life in BC, spent 5 years in Canada myself mainly in Ottawa spent sometime in Montreal and Halifax NS, never got out to BC.:o

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Hi davidf.
I lived in Crawshaw street from 1949 to 1956, as you know its a car park now and the Blockade has become a social services office of some sort.
When the Blockade did exist we always thought it was an upper class place because it was called Hotel whereas the Horseshoe and the Nags Head were just pubs.

Regarding your question, the Horseshoe pub was on the corner of Crawshaw Street/School Street if my memory serves me correctly (its a long long time ago) immediately round the corner in School Street was a red door through that door you come out behind the Horseshoe into a small type courtyard, and the big building to the right was the Accrington Observer Offices (now on Blackburn Road) but I don't remember any houses in there but also up School Street on the left was another type of courtyard which was accessed down a narrow alleyway which brought you behind the Nags Head and Blackburn Road there was about 6 houses in there.I cannot truly remember what the names were but the name you give does ring a bell in the mist of my old brain. What were your ancestors called that may help.

Good to hear from you.
cooinda

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Hi Keith.

Thanks for that, it was Harry Cowell, it all floods back now.

Roy Hudson was a little younger than me, and I cannot recall what he did when he left school. As I said he lived behind the Nags head with his Mother (no Father present.) but I have a vague recollection of him being all oily in a pair of the old bib and brace overalls.

Regards
Cooinda

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like you cooinda,my memory has faded a bit, but regarding Stephens Court, seem to Remember n alleyway lower than the nags, would that be it?:confused:

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Ive just checked - Stephen's Court was definitely off (i.e.in) School Street Crawshaw was probably named after a wealthy Accy chap who buiilt the building on Blackburn rd just next to the Crown. It became, or part of it perhaps, Joe Mort's dance hall.

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was it just below the Nags Head Bob?

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between the period 1944/50 I delivered sunday newspapers for harry pollard who had the paper shop next to the black bull pub my first round took me up union st there were a few house there then back up crawshaw st up on to blackburn road then up by the railway station round by the pit then a few delivered round the old baths area then back down union st to collect my second round which went the other way up devonshire st and westwood st and finishing on queens road all before ten oclock when I was due to be on parade with the church lads brigade band in which I was a drummer I was a member of the band from being 12years old till I joined the raf regiment nine years in all even played with them sometimes when home on leave however all had gone when I came home on leave from my first overseas posting

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I remember School Street, a girl called Margaret lived on there with her brothers, next to the alley way. We also got saw dust from the Joiners down there for our rabbit.
I think Margaret was crowned Miss Accrington one year in the Parade they used to have.
Can't remember her last name

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Did Crawshaw Street run parallel to Union St?
If so, I remember them pulling the houses down.

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Yes, you are right they were parallel streets, can you remember the year
Crawshaw Street was pulled down and was it done in one hit from end to end.:confused:

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I have a recollection of the girl you are talking about, was the families name Hindle? it came to mind as I read your comments.

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Hi Keith.
We might have crossed each others path, because I delivered morning papers for Harry Parr from around 1951 to 1953, and also did the evening papers, I delivered the morning papers,Starting with the Bull then all round Westwood/Devonshire/Dowry/Maudsley Milnshaw before going to School, at the time I seem to remember you had to be 13 to be a paper boy/girl, I seem to remember if I delivered the papers during the week I was not allowed to do Sundays.

I was also in the Boys Brigade,we met in a Hall in Union Street every Sunday morning the same hall was used for Sunday School in the afternoon.

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knew the family yer both on about margaret won Miss Accrington one year, i mated with her eldest brother, name was "Askew" though cooinda not hindle.:)

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Hi Bob.
Stephen's Court must have been the one I said was below the Nags and through an alley to come out behind Blackburn road.
I used to go to Joe Morts,it was upstairs in the first building on the right after the Railway Bridge on Blackburn Road,was that the Crown:confused: I simply cannot remember,at 71 the mind is not as sharp as it was particularly as I only returned to Accrington (where I was born) 1n 2003 after being away for 5o odd years and hardly recognised the town.:o

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Thanks Cashman, at least we have one result.

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Hi Cooinda, Thanks to you and everyone else for your responses. For what it's worth my old family bible records, "Alice Franklin born Jan 2nd 1884 at 8 Stephen's Court off School Street." By June 1888 the family had moved to Portland Street (the house there still stands). So thanks again, folks, you've given me a better idea than I had before.
davidf

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some mates of mine from my younger days lived in crawshaw st jimmy smith, David Gideon and his brothers,

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was the Gudgeons tosh.;)

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I remember young David Gudgeon, spent more time at my Aunts in Crawshaw St than he did at home.

Retlaw.

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Thats right Cashman, I remember the Askew's now. What was the brothers name? There were two.

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was Gordan, eldest n Raymond.:)

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We lived there for a little while before we moved to Rimmington Ave. We had Just moved down from Scotland must have been around mid 60s

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Any of you remember me Patrick Murphy ay 21 Crawshaw St.

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Did You have a brother called Nicolas?

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No my brothers were John and Brendan.

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Yes it was the Horse shoe Joe Morts was upstairs. Littlepom

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You were too young to go in Joe Morts - had to smuggle you in.
There was the ginnel down the side of the bridge, the Pub - Crown(?), steps going up to Joe Morts and then a large shop I think prams etc. Joe Mort's was above that and had previously been the Alexandria Billiard Hall

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Twas the "Crown" Big Crown everyone called it, guy called "Bernard" had it early 60s, used to have Groups on.:)

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Hiya Cooinda, I was born in Crawshaw Street at number 8 in 1942, but lived most of my time in the street at 33. My name is Peter Davison and I remember all the people that you mention, in fact, Derek Gardner is my cousin and I see him quite often. I have a picture of the street looking from just above the Horse Shoe, down towards Broughtons. As soon as I sus out how to post pictures on here I will post it. Did you have a brother called Vincent? I went to Hyndburn Park with a lad called Vincent who lived next door to the 'shoe. Hope this is of some interest.:)

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Your correct Kieth. I worked at Gilbraiths with Roy Hudson. I still bump into him down Acc now and then.

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I remember Jimmy Smith, I worked with him at Bowkers when they were at Blackburn. He lived up Springhill then, and I used to pick him up on Monday morning and give him a lift to work. David Gudgeon was one of a large family of children. Last time I saw him he was driving a bus round town. He drove for Accy Corperation, but after they went belly up, he moved somewhere else.

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Hope this works Terry

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...shawStreet.jpg

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great pic, brings back memories.:)

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I am a good mate of the Atkiman above and am glad I found this forum for us.
I came over to Accrington from Yorkshire in about 1966/7 and started to frequent the Horseshoe pub when I started work for Gilbraith Tankers and knew a few other drivers who used it.
Stan Hindle lived next door to the pub and he was a driver and a mate of mine, Phillomina lived next down and played the piano there ( she was never sober) Next down was came another drinking partner of mine and a driver called Ted Sharples, his son also came in.. Tommy Greenwood was another tankerman now deceased who drank there..Jack Leach, Big Fry and his dad John Seary thelist goes on but not my memory. I was in most nights when I was not away from home with the tanker and weekends most of the day, that's when I saw the blacksmith clogging the horses.

I used the 'shoe till it closed and then started to use the Royal on Meadow street or new Brewery tother end of Hood street where I lived.

I have a copy of the photo which Atkiman posted and was amazed when he gave it to me a while ago. It brought back somne happy memories, I met my present wife there over 40 years ago.

Gremlin. R.T.

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Ey up!!! What's happened to all the Crawshaw Streeters on here? Never seen owt new fer ages. Where are you all??

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Wow talk about the old days, this threads just jogged my memory...Saturday mornin', all meet up and down to toffee works just off oxford st to blag some bits n' bobs then along hyndburn road and up tenement to abbertoirs to see a few pigs get slit n' boiled and sheep stunned and punce some cow bellies about then up to blacksmiths to see "a big man wi some hammers n' stuff" ... then off to piccies...Odeon.."we come along ..on saturday morning"..etc...(saw Roy Rogers there really)... watch little rascals and stuff then home.... oh was that joiners accross from smithy called..... F H Brown?.....them were the days

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Pete, I sure remember you, at present I am in South America, not always a good connection, I am back in UK around 15th March, will contact you then.
Good luck
Terry

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Atkiman just picked up again on this thread reminds me the last time I saw you you were with bowkers veteran wagon at fleetwood tram day quite a few years ago at that time you were living up dillhall I myself have moved on a bit now living the life at sunny morecambe and loving it Some of the old things though you never forget the stormy meetings on a sunday morning at the miners club I wonder how freddie greer going on and have lost touch with a lot of the old jacks and gilbraiths drivers in fact I must be the only ex jacks driver left as over the years several have passed away some of them quite young really must have been all that chasing about we had to do A few names billy crossley raymond newell the late denis sandiford jimmy dewhurst and of course rt he sent me a e-mail with some pictures of jacks motors marathons and crusaders which made me think about the days long gone

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Fred Greers fine lives oer bury way, owd mate of mine.:)

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I spent many an hour with Fred Greer either waiting for a load at BP Hull where we were both on contract or sat in the digs up Spring Grove.
Fred went on to be a big shot in the T&GWU and I took over from him as shop steward at Gilbraith Tankers for the next 20 odd years.
Fred Woods is still knocking around and I will be supping with Alan Luke in the Con Club Read tonight. Roy Duffield is retired and living up Ossy way.

I don't think any of my old drinking mates from the Horse Shoe who were drivers are still around, I hope so and they pop up on here one day. A reunion would be nice. Zimmer frames and mobo buggies are not compulsary.

Gremlin R.T.

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yep gremlin fred became District Officer fer region 6, best D.O. i ever had, moved onto transport side oer bury n then we lost touch.:)

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Great Stuff Terry. Look forward to hearing from you, Pete

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Hiya Kieth, RT said he had been in touch. I am still living with the same woman up dill hall. Nice to here from you. As for the names you mention, Don't knmow how Raymond newall is, never seen him for years, Billy Crossley had a bad experience in Italy and so vowed never to sleep in a lorry again. He was on the wallpaper shunt job with Billy Haworth until he retired. B H is still on that job. Never seen Jimmy "Bugsy" Dewhurst since he left Bowkers. I went to see Jack Birchall last summer, after he had been up at ours, and speak to him qiute often on the phone. Take care mate, if you are ever in accy, give me a shout, take care Kieth, Pete

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Hi Pete, I am back now, are you still in Accrington.

Terry.

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Hiya Terry, sorry for the delay getting back mate. Yes, I am still in Accy, well, Church anyway. I will be away for a few weeks, but will get in touch when I get back, Pete

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Hi there just noticed your writeups on the Accrington Web.My husband Maurice Gudgeon
lived on Crawshaw St sounds like you Knew the family Maurice is the eldest then Barbara
David Kath Gordon and James.Regards

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Just seen this Gremlin missed it being away when yeh posted a couple of years ago, Ted Sharples i knew n both his sons, Steve the youngest i think was a mate of mine back then, His other son was Bob who actually became Landlord of the Horseshoe around late 60s, he came after Duggie who had taken oer the Mill Gap in darwen.;)

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Yes, I remember the Gudgeon family well, our next door neighbours were called Feltel, (I think thats how it is spelt), then I think it was the Davidsons, then your family Gudgeons.

Latest news is Crawshaw Street is to become the new Accy bus station.

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HI lets start in Crawshaw street there were George Gresham Harry & Cath Philiton.Peter &
Stewart Davidson. David Creeg. Burnerd noalon. Jimmy Smith. Peter Mc cocky. Maurice Barbara David Kath Gordon & James Gudgeon. Stewart Philipson. Lets go round the corner to School Street there were Gordon Raymond Margaret Brenda Pauline Askew.

ASKEY

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Knew Bernard Nolan well way back also the Gudgeons, n mated fer a while wi Gordon Askew, One of the girls won Miss Accrington way back as i assume yeh would be aware?;)

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Margaret Askew.:gooddog:

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Margaret Askew.:gooddog:

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Hi cashman lets speak Gordon:gooddog:

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Sent yeh a P.M. mate.;)

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Hi Olly did you get the text I sent on Monday

GORDON

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No mate got nowt.:confused:

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Gordon Askew Thornton-cleveleys

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I remember School Street, a girl called Margaret lived on there with her brothers, next to the alley way. We also got saw dust from the Joiners down there for our rabbit.
I think Margaret was crowned Miss Accrington one year in the Parade they used to have.
Can't remember her last name

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You're doing it again, repeating other people's posts, no 15 in this case.

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Summat very fishy goin on here.:rolleyes:

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Ya think somebody is taking the you know what cashy:rolleyes:

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Could possibly be a crafty spammer?:confused: With the introduction saying "Message me if yeh want to talk" either that or a God Bother-er,:rolleyes:

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Oh not a God Botherer:eek:

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John's favourite people.

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See http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ml#post1001328 my post 69.

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Well they are now Frank, now I can abuse them from the comfort of my armchair, since I installed by door entry system, works for me:mosher:

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I abuse them when they come to my door.

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Thanks, are your Gordon or Raymond?

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HI Mrs Gudgeon new to the sit my self glad I found it can talk to my old mats again Iam Gordon Askew from 6 School St can you ask Kath to E-Mail me please on

[email protected]

Kind regards
Gordon

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hi I recognise all those names from
crawshaw street..I be one of the Gudgeons Kath.
You have a good memory..

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Always remember Crawshaw Street..Those were the days when we had great skipping ropes and all the kids joined in..Top and whip and bursting the tarmac bubbles..Was there in childhood..

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Hi Gordon...How are you..?

This is Kath